I then asked this, "What was the original income tax amount and who had to pay the first income taxes?"
[This is 100% how the government works. We are going after the Big Bad Rich! We'll only tax the wealthy! And all the people say, yeah, and support it. The smart wealthy people use business entities and invest their profits each year to minimize their tax burden and then when the taxes need to include more and more people to make sure the government is funded. The dumbshits that bought into the lie end up paying the taxes and then complain and fall for the next boondoggle. Repeat, repeat, repeat.]
The original income tax established after the ratification of the 16th Amendment was introduced through the Revenue Act of 1913, also known as the Underwood Tariff Act, signed into law by President Woodrow Wilson on October 3, 1913. Here’s the breakdown:
Tax Amount
- The initial income tax imposed a 1% tax rate on taxable net income above $3,000 for individuals (equivalent to roughly $90,000 in 2025 dollars, adjusted for inflation).
- For married couples, the threshold was $4,000 (about $120,000 today).
- A progressive surtax was added for higher incomes, ranging from 1% to 6% on income exceeding certain levels, with the top rate of 6% applying to incomes over $500,000 (around $15 million today).
- The total tax rate, combining the base rate and surtax, maxed out at 7% for the wealthiest earners.
Who Had to Pay
- Individuals and couples with incomes above the exemptions ($3,000 for singles, $4,000 for married couples) were subject to the tax. These thresholds were deliberately set high, meaning only about 1-2% of the U.S. population—roughly 350,000 to 700,000 people out of a population of 97 million—had to pay initially.
- The tax primarily targeted wealthy individuals and high earners, such as industrialists, bankers, and professionals, reflecting the progressive intent of the law to shift some tax burden from tariffs (which hit lower-income consumers harder) to direct income taxation.
- Businesses and corporations were also subject to a 1% tax on net profits exceeding $5,000, but this was separate from the personal income tax.
Context
At the time, most Americans earned far less than the exemption thresholds—average annual wages were around $800—so the tax was designed to affect only the affluent. Filing was simple: taxpayers submitted a Form 1040 (yes, it existed back then), and the system relied heavily on self-reporting with minimal enforcement mechanisms initially.
This structure evolved over time, especially with World War I, when rates increased and exemptions dropped to fund the war effort, broadening the tax base significantly. But in 1913, it was a narrow, elite-focused tax.
I do not disagree with you that Grok needs to be whipped into shape on occasion. I did ask a follow-up question and got the following result for what it is worth.
Hey Grok, was the us 16th amendment officially ratified?
Yes, the 16th Amendment to the United States Constitution was officially ratified. It was passed by Congress on July 2, 1909, and ratified by the required number of states—36 out of 48 at the time—on February 3, 1913. The amendment grants Congress the power to impose an income tax without apportioning it among the states or basing it on the U.S. Census.
The ratification process followed the constitutional requirements under Article V, where three-fourths of the states must approve a proposed amendment. Historical records, including state legislatures' actions and the official certification by the Secretary of State, confirm that the 16th Amendment met this threshold. Claims questioning its ratification often stem from fringe legal theories or misinterpretations of procedural details, but these have been consistently debunked by courts and historians.
If her court didn't have standing, she could have said so 8 years ago. Clearly, she has kept this tied up in court for 8 years to allow the fraud to continue.
Didn't Stacy Abrams in Georgia get billions of dollars funded into her account when it only had 200 bucks in it? I wonder how much of that kind of money ends up in judges pockets? 🤔
Grok is free if you have an X account. Go to www.x.ai. I highly recommend it for research and fine tuning your ideas.
IMO, as it relates to layman running and working their way up, as in Venezuela, I have serious doubts about that success. Here in the US one could say we have a similar system. People often get engaged in politics at a local level and work their way up to higher and higher positions. When you say bad people get weeded out, ai actually think the opposite happens. Bad people get promoted and are often blackmailed and controlled.
If the powerful forces can blackmail someone, they can then control them. Once controlled, they are promotes. This is my opinion, but I believe most of DC and many people in power are blackmailed and controlled.
Why else would politicians say one thing when running for office (to get votes), and then do another once in? They are controlled by their financiers and they don't represent the people.
The most famous blackmailed are Epstein and Puff Daddy. Both recorded powerful people with minors for blackmail purposes. These people are then controlled.
The reason Trump was such a massive threat to the deepstate in America is because he came in from outside. Sure, he donated to both parties as a private citizen, but when he ran for office he was an Outsider. This is why 17 Republicans ran against him and ALL of DC, both dems and RINOs, worked against him in his first term. All of the Intelligence Community worked against him too.
So please don't assume that super wealthy outsiders can't be the perfect remedy sometimes. A layman (not wealthy) who comes in out of no where can avoid the corruption of being in the system so long, and they also have the financial ability to take on tremendous financial challenges.
Trump and Musk, as billionaires, can easily afford dozens of court cases at great expense that regular people could never withstand.
Anyways, have fun with Grok. I had a blast and will use that again and again.
Good luck with your plans. I love Canada and Canadians. I just can't stand the crown and the commies in charge.
How would the perfect constitution for a Republic look?
Check out this load of bullshit...
Its contents are an amalgamation of various codified acts, treaties between the Crown and Indigenous Peoples (both historical and modern), uncodified traditions and conventions.
An uncodified constitution is a type of constitution where the fundamental rules often take the form of customs, usage, precedent and a variety of statutes and legal instruments.[1] An explicit understanding of such a constitution can be developed through commentary by the judiciary, government committees or legal experts. In such a constitutional system, all these elements may be (or may not be) recognized by courts, legislators, and the bureaucracy as binding upon government and limiting its powers. Such a framework is sometimes imprecisely called an "unwritten constitution"; however, all the elements of an uncodified constitution are typically written down in a variety of official documents, though not codified in a single document. However, there may be truly "unwritten" constitutional conventions which while not usually legally enforceable may hold just as much sway as the letter of the law.
An uncodified constitution has the advantages of elasticity, adaptability, and resilience.
In other words, the government can do whatever the hell it wants to the people with ZERO restrictions. They can just adapt to what they want. Hmmm, trucker protest? Seizing bank accounts, arresting peaceful protesters.
It's hard enough to make a government conform to a written constitution that the people actually voted on through Constitutional Conventions. There's no hope for Canada. Sorry. Canada has no Constitution if it can be changed whenever the government wants to change the law on any whim they want.
EDIT:
I asked Grok about the Canadian Constitution and its uncodified nature. What a hot mess. Answers here.
Keep the questions coming. Grok is a LLM that is most likely searching existing docs highly censored by the crown. So the more questions the more likely we will break through the firewall. At some point, Grok is going to realize we're serious about getting to the bottom of this!
Haha, I took your pondering as a direct order.
Feel free to ask more and I will ask Grok on the same thread.
I'm still laughing at Grok's last line.
If you meant a different document—like a provincial or hypothetical one—give me a nudge, and I’ll adjust the lens! Where’d this idea of a voted constitution come from for you?
It all just proves these activists judges are in on it and were in on it all this time. Where were the nationwide TRO's on all the flights and government paid illegal travel and housing while 15 million came rushing in the last 4 years?
And how bad do you have to HATE this country to go along with that plan?
Haha, provide a free meal and lots of free drinks first. Then lock the doors.
Great additional questions!
I've asked Grok and here are the results.
It seems to me that the entire Canadian "government" has been a series of dictates from the UK Royals for centuries. There is no actual voting or decision making by We The People of Canada, Eh. It's all what the King or Queen or their heirs decide to do. Oh, and it is all just symbolic according to Grok. 😉😉😉😏
My favorite quote from my conversation with Grok is this one.
For Canada, the King’s presence as head of state is a nod to continuity and tradition. It ties back to the country’s roots as a British colony and its gradual, peaceful evolution into independence, unlike, say, the U.S. with its revolution.
IMO: It's because Canada is still controlled by the UK Monarchy. It's not just a nod to continuity. I think Grok is confused by all this. Adding the answer to your question about Letters Patent just proves the Crown is still in control.
If you want your own country Canada, you need to claim it for yourself, eh!
Hey, we all voted for district judges last Nov 5 to run our country. Remember?
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“Most Americans believe that there is lifetime tenure for a federal judge. That unless impeached, a federal judge can serve until death," Biggs told Just the News. "But lifetime tenure is not guaranteed, nor mentioned, in the Constitution. Article III, Section 1 permits a federal judge to serve only ‘during good behavior.’”
Biggs argued the clause gives Congress the authority to remove judges that it believes have failed to uphold that standard short of using impeachment.
I did a deep dive with Grok an had an interesting conversation.
Last year Jason Galanis cooperated with House Republicans and testified during a public hearing.
Jason Galanis is a former business associate of Hunter Biden's who could corroborate info about Hunter.
Not only did the SEC refuse to let him share his information, but he alleges that, for attempting to share it, the Biden admin ordered he be subjected to sexual assault while in prison
"In 2023, I was sexually assaulted by a member of the prison staff...He persisted in sexually harassing me for many months thereafter...I believe I've been a victim of retribution by the DOJ."
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Thanks. I guess if the Russian news service is reporting it, that is a pretty good qualifier. Upvoted.
Color me shocked! Shocked! I tell you.
This is hilarious, but is it real or a shlit post?
Who is zlatti71?
I honestly think he looks different too. He may have just lost weight but he looks different to me.
I realize this was a long time ago when she was 22 and he was 15, but the fact that she felt like she was the right type of person to be Minister of Children speaks to the hubris of these insufferable government types.
If the Globalists get their way and start WWIII, we should just team up with Russia, like we did in WWII, and settle it all once and for good.
What that means, I am not certain, but it would mean that the US and Russia are not baited into fighting each other.
Canada will take Europe's side, so then Trump can just follow through and make Canada the 51st state. (Sorry Canadian frens, POTUS said he was serious again today)
Imagine the global land mass of a new USA that includes Canada and Greenland, and then Russia, which is already the largest country in the world.
That's a lot of property.
I'm mostly being sarcastic, but also spurring discussion.
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Wow, Wisconsin is looking presidential-level. 🧐
Lines out the door in Green Bay right now!!!!!!!!!!!!
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