I talked to my friend about this on the 6th. My theory is that Pence was told by Trump to backstab him so he could get into the good graces of the Cabal. After the occupation of the Capitol was complete, and the senators all pushed the fake votes as legit, Pence was handed something by an older gentleman, and Nancy gave him an elbow bump, something along the lines of "Welcome to the team!"
Then later, he blew Nancy off when she called him about invoking the 25th, ignored her ultimatum, and went silent (as far as I know). I think his job was to get that item for Trump, so he knows EXACTLY who to go after.
They didn't start freaking out until after the vote to certify. It went late into the morning and Pence didn't start ghosting Pelosi until then. It was likely agreed that the 25th would happen the next day.
The full blown panic and extremely odd reactions didn't start until he refused her call. She then ran to the military to ask for a coup, but their people had all just been removed. The impeachment was a last ditch thing and then Mitch screwed them.
The impeachment. He won't have the senate back till the 29th and the earliest they could impeach is the afternoon of the 20th. You can't impeach a private citizen
Senate will be back on the 19th, and they can have a senate trial of impeachment after inauguration. Trump has said impeachment is not a risk to him, and I believe that. But we should still have our facts straight.
He said the 25th Amendment was of no risk to him. The 25th is where the VP and Cabinet vote to remove a president who is unable to be president due to illness/incapacitation.... is impeachment covered under the 25th, too? I thought impeachment was somewhere else?
I could be mistaken but I'm pretty sure he said neither were a risk to him. 25th is where cabinet and VP could seem POTUS unfit to lead (usually do to being incapacitated) impeachment is separate house and senate have hearings and trials then vote whether to remove POTUS from office. The only reason they want to impeach him (even if it's after inauguration) is to try to strip him of his secret service (Presidents get secret service for life iirc,) prevent him from a presidential library, and make it so he could never run for office again.
In spite of all that none of their schemes will succeed.
Former President's are hardly just "civilians" after the leave office, given they maintain Secret Service, special tax perks, etc. These are the things and reasons they would try to take this up, however stupid, unprecedented or unnecessary it may seem.
None of these semantics matter tho, since the plan is moving and they won't have the opportunity to even try such a thing
You think Mitch was in on this too? The same friend I was talking to said that Mitch would go through with impeachment to cover his ass for blocking the 2k stimulus.
Mitch first came out saying that he thought impeachment would be a good thing. Then after congress had their impeachment circus/group therapy session Mitch refused to call a special session for a senate trial before they reconvene on the 19th. He said that if schumer want to pursue an impeachment trial he can do so after he becomes majority leader.
This is my theory as well. Two reasons. One is that on the 5th, Trump released a statement saying that he and Pence were on the same page on what would happen the next day. Second is that in his speech, Trump said that it would take courage to make the right decision, but even more courage to make the wrong one. Imagine what it takes to have to stab the President in the back at his behest and be considered to be like Judas by the base until the truth came out.
I remember Chris Miller saying he and pence worked on the most elaborate military operation ever and I refuse to believe that was distributing vaccine. Fedex can do that
its just a challenge coin. Common thing in the military when enlisted/lower rans interact with brass/higher ranks. It's like an unofficial commendation. Not a huge deal.
One comment sticks in my mind from the 6th, Trump said multiple times that doing the right thing doesn't take courage, doing nothing does.....signal that Pence actually did the right thing all along?....
"And actually I just spoke to Mike. I said Mike, that doesn’t take courage. What takes courage is to do nothing, that takes courage." Taken from the transcript...Good Catch!
Lin Wood linked that article about Pence and Bondi and said something along the lines of, "Go ahead and read that. I'm not saying it's true and verified, I'm just putting it out there." I'm guessing Pence at minimum is a double agent, maybe even white hat.
Doing nothing put Pence through the wringer with Trump's base that's for sure. Anyone could see that coming and to allow yourself to be perceived as a traitor in the election fraud campaign would take balls of steel.
All I can say, is when Pence was governor of Indiana, he was a good governor. MSM said he was awful, but that was because he was for fiscal responsibility, Christian ethics, school choice, we were really looking forward to having him there and then he got taken for the VP position.
Tangentially related, I’m hearing third hand that troops are still being mobilized even today. They have an entire corps worth of troops ... that ain’t normal.
I talked to my friend about this on the 6th. My theory is that Pence was told by Trump to backstab him so he could get into the good graces of the Cabal. After the occupation of the Capitol was complete, and the senators all pushed the fake votes as legit, Pence was handed something by an older gentleman, and Nancy gave him an elbow bump, something along the lines of "Welcome to the team!"
Then later, he blew Nancy off when she called him about invoking the 25th, ignored her ultimatum, and went silent (as far as I know). I think his job was to get that item for Trump, so he knows EXACTLY who to go after.
They didn't start freaking out until after the vote to certify. It went late into the morning and Pence didn't start ghosting Pelosi until then. It was likely agreed that the 25th would happen the next day.
The full blown panic and extremely odd reactions didn't start until he refused her call. She then ran to the military to ask for a coup, but their people had all just been removed. The impeachment was a last ditch thing and then Mitch screwed them.
I didn't hear about Mitch screwing them. What happened on that front?
The impeachment. He won't have the senate back till the 29th and the earliest they could impeach is the afternoon of the 20th. You can't impeach a private citizen
Senate will be back on the 19th, and they can have a senate trial of impeachment after inauguration. Trump has said impeachment is not a risk to him, and I believe that. But we should still have our facts straight.
He said the 25th Amendment was of no risk to him. The 25th is where the VP and Cabinet vote to remove a president who is unable to be president due to illness/incapacitation.... is impeachment covered under the 25th, too? I thought impeachment was somewhere else?
I could be mistaken but I'm pretty sure he said neither were a risk to him. 25th is where cabinet and VP could seem POTUS unfit to lead (usually do to being incapacitated) impeachment is separate house and senate have hearings and trials then vote whether to remove POTUS from office. The only reason they want to impeach him (even if it's after inauguration) is to try to strip him of his secret service (Presidents get secret service for life iirc,) prevent him from a presidential library, and make it so he could never run for office again.
In spite of all that none of their schemes will succeed.
I agree. They seem so desperate.
I am pretty sure you can't have an impeachment trial of a civilian...
Matt Gaetz tweeted https://mobile.twitter.com/mattgaetz/status/1202334061504716801 that is is possible in Dec 2019, Bannon was saying on War Room earlier this week that they could hold the trial after.
Former President's are hardly just "civilians" after the leave office, given they maintain Secret Service, special tax perks, etc. These are the things and reasons they would try to take this up, however stupid, unprecedented or unnecessary it may seem.
None of these semantics matter tho, since the plan is moving and they won't have the opportunity to even try such a thing
Thanks!
You think Mitch was in on this too? The same friend I was talking to said that Mitch would go through with impeachment to cover his ass for blocking the 2k stimulus.
I think mitch got shown the evidence on him after the 6th and decided to back down
Good theory.
I thought senate back in session on 19th.
Mitch first came out saying that he thought impeachment would be a good thing. Then after congress had their impeachment circus/group therapy session Mitch refused to call a special session for a senate trial before they reconvene on the 19th. He said that if schumer want to pursue an impeachment trial he can do so after he becomes majority leader.
This is my theory as well. Two reasons. One is that on the 5th, Trump released a statement saying that he and Pence were on the same page on what would happen the next day. Second is that in his speech, Trump said that it would take courage to make the right decision, but even more courage to make the wrong one. Imagine what it takes to have to stab the President in the back at his behest and be considered to be like Judas by the base until the truth came out.
Yep. Pence = Snape?
I really really love all of you and every byte of this place. My thoughts exactly.
The item was a challenger coin, but I don't know if anyone has identified what group it's from.
I believe he handed Pence a coin.
I saw the coin when I looked at it closer last week, but what if that coin was what was needed.
I remember Chris Miller saying he and pence worked on the most elaborate military operation ever and I refuse to believe that was distributing vaccine. Fedex can do that
I think that was the seizing of the Dominion servers in Germany.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBrLxvbYlEs&t
Miller visited the 6 million national guard too
any ideas on that coin that he was passing out?
its just a challenge coin. Common thing in the military when enlisted/lower rans interact with brass/higher ranks. It's like an unofficial commendation. Not a huge deal.
I've heard a few comments that say that stuff is frequent within the military between subordinates and superiors.
Also, there are many rumours (supported by many q drops such as 855/22/17/14 but ESPECIALLY 22).
But no I have no idea what that coin might entail.
Because Pence is Whitehat? Strong possibility.
One comment sticks in my mind from the 6th, Trump said multiple times that doing the right thing doesn't take courage, doing nothing does.....signal that Pence actually did the right thing all along?....
"And actually I just spoke to Mike. I said Mike, that doesn’t take courage. What takes courage is to do nothing, that takes courage." Taken from the transcript...Good Catch!
Optics...misinformation is important.
I don’t know
Lin Wood linked that article about Pence and Bondi and said something along the lines of, "Go ahead and read that. I'm not saying it's true and verified, I'm just putting it out there." I'm guessing Pence at minimum is a double agent, maybe even white hat.
Exactly this.
That never did makes sense to me...you might be onto something here. He had to look like a traitor...that takes courage.
“What makes a good movie?” Answer: Good actors?
Doing nothing put Pence through the wringer with Trump's base that's for sure. Anyone could see that coming and to allow yourself to be perceived as a traitor in the election fraud campaign would take balls of steel.
Maybe they have something om him to convince him to fall on the sword
All I can say, is when Pence was governor of Indiana, he was a good governor. MSM said he was awful, but that was because he was for fiscal responsibility, Christian ethics, school choice, we were really looking forward to having him there and then he got taken for the VP position.
Great catch!
What makes a great movie? GREAT ACTORS.
It's becoming more and more obvious that Pence choreographed that "betrayal" with Trump to weed out the traitors in congress.
We will see what comes out of this, Trump will probably need to clarify a lot of shit
Tangentially related, I’m hearing third hand that troops are still being mobilized even today. They have an entire corps worth of troops ... that ain’t normal.
Because the sitting vp and pres host the inauguration
Pence helping to lure the Bides gang into the 'roach motel', i mean DC FEMA camp, er, inauguration
https://youtu.be/XF2ayWcJfxo?t=292
Hummm...