As far as I can tell yes but I don't know the full context of the clip. Also reports he was blocked from pentagon and AF1. There is more weird shit going on than I have ever seen in my life. Either we are in the middle of the full scale push or this is an act they are keeping up in public while being arrested and crap
Correct me if I’m wrong, but there are also only 2 AF1’s. Both fly, one as a distraction when flying the President. Since Trump took AF1 to Florida, there would not have been an opportunity to fly Biden.
Even the freakin' speaker of the house and other lower-ranking govt officials
routinely travel on govt / .MIL aircraft.
Example: SecState has their own dedicated aircraft, etc.
I remember there was a big scandal a few years ago when the total cost of pelosi's GOVERNMENT AIRCRAFT USE was exposed; it was something insane like $2mm per year or something and the biggest thing that caught fire was her alcohol tab; something like $60k for one year or something totally insane like that.....
Anyone else old enough to remember that?
Anyway....point is......you'd think SOMEONE SOMEWHERE in the ENTIRE fucking US Govt would be able to scrounge up SOME SORT of a gov aircraft to fly around the "new" POTUS.
It again makes just zero sense that xiden flew private......
Talk about a security risk.....not that I care, personally......but USSS should.....theoretically.....
I have a question since you are former military. All these "clips" showing Biden getting disrespect regarding AF!, the 21 gun salute, nuclear football, Marines not saluting, etc. Are maybe we taking parts of these clips to confirm our side of what's going on? Could we just not be seeing the whole pic? I am NOT a Biden fan at all, I'm just confused by clips showing what we "want" them to show. I also heard that Trump had the nuclear football go with him when he left DC on Wed. Would they have automatically taken it back to DC after AF1 dropped off Trump in FL?
I’m a Marine. Like the other military Pede above said, the clip showing the Marines not saluting Biden was the nail in the coffin for me. There’s no way they would have done that just because. I watched the “inauguration” and that clip happened AFTER he was supposedly sworn in.
There’s just no way in hell the Marines on Presidential duty would not have saluted Biden because they didn’t like him. If he were really President then they would have saluted him like they were supposed to then maybe talked shit about him later when higher ups weren’t around. But he would’ve still got the salute.
I understand your point and just want to ask this: for the Marines not to salute, they would have been told not to by someone. And those who turned their back would also have to be aware that Biden is not being accepted as a legit president and therefore advised to turn their backs. What, in your opinion would they be told to prompt not saluting and wouldn't they wonder why? Or if Biden is in fact, not viewed a legit by the military, wouldn't this be common knowledge among all the troops? I guess I'm just trying to figure out why they aren't talking about it and why it hasn't come out to the public.
From the research I have done, it also appears to be standard for some Marines to face the Presidential motorcade and for some to turn their backs (for security purposes). You can see a comparison online of the Biden vs. Trump inaugurations, and the military officers were in the same formation (some with backs turned) for Trump.
Those are valid questions I don’t really have an answer to. I know the saying “loose lips sink ships” so I can see how telling anyone the plan would put it at risk. But something is definitely fucky.
Semper Fi Devil Dog......
I agree, there's no way Marines assigned Presidential duty would openly disrespect the President of the United States.....
We're taught to respect/salute the Rank, not the person. That also applied to foreign officers, both ally and enemy.
Look at POW camps during WW2
The Marines "protocol" is slightly different from the other branches - if I remember correctly, you do not salute if You're out of uniform or not wearing your cover.
The media said that there are multiple nuclear footballs and potatus was given one at noon on the 20th. If true, you can't judge anything by the location of any football, because you don't know which one is active. I suspect this is disinformation, so we can't draw any conclusion from Trump taking it with him to FL
True. Trump could also be telling Biden that he accidentally "misplaced" AF1, and if he's patient, he just knows it'll turn up eventually ...
Maybe he parked it at is "other" mansions or something ... and Biden's so mentally far gone, that he believes him, because Biden definitely knows a thing or two about losing stuff / forgetting ... :)
He did receive a salute, however that is not the point of this thread. It was the manner, form and what that form represents that is being pointed out.
I’m confused then. It appeared the original post was stating that he did NOT receive a 21-gun salute, but rather a 3-gun salute. But there is evidence that he did, in fact, receive a 21-gun salute. That was my point.
I'm just confused by clips showing what we "want" them to show
Yeah weird it's almost like that's all Q has ever been since the very beginning. Confirmation bias taken to the extreme. You're so close to self-awareness, but not quite there yet.
As far as I can tell yes but I don't know the full context of the clip. Also reports he was blocked from pentagon and AF1. There is more weird shit going on than I have ever seen in my life. Either we are in the middle of the full scale push or this is an act they are keeping up in public while being arrested and crap
Well, we know he was blocked from the AF1 before he was inaugurated.
But we don't know at this moment.
Traditionally...
Wasn't Christopher C Miller in charge when that happened?
Well, now he's not, so we'll see
Correct me if I’m wrong, but there are also only 2 AF1’s. Both fly, one as a distraction when flying the President. Since Trump took AF1 to Florida, there would not have been an opportunity to fly Biden.
AF1 is the call sign ONLY when the president is aboard.
Even the freakin' speaker of the house and other lower-ranking govt officials routinely travel on govt / .MIL aircraft.
Example: SecState has their own dedicated aircraft, etc.
I remember there was a big scandal a few years ago when the total cost of pelosi's GOVERNMENT AIRCRAFT USE was exposed; it was something insane like $2mm per year or something and the biggest thing that caught fire was her alcohol tab; something like $60k for one year or something totally insane like that.....
Anyone else old enough to remember that?
Anyway....point is......you'd think SOMEONE SOMEWHERE in the ENTIRE fucking US Govt would be able to scrounge up SOME SORT of a gov aircraft to fly around the "new" POTUS.
It again makes just zero sense that xiden flew private......
Talk about a security risk.....not that I care, personally......but USSS should.....theoretically.....
Before or after doesn’t matter point is he was and it’s never happened
It does matter. Chris C Miller was in charge when that happened. Now he's not.
But we shall know soon, I hope.
I have a question since you are former military. All these "clips" showing Biden getting disrespect regarding AF!, the 21 gun salute, nuclear football, Marines not saluting, etc. Are maybe we taking parts of these clips to confirm our side of what's going on? Could we just not be seeing the whole pic? I am NOT a Biden fan at all, I'm just confused by clips showing what we "want" them to show. I also heard that Trump had the nuclear football go with him when he left DC on Wed. Would they have automatically taken it back to DC after AF1 dropped off Trump in FL?
I’m a Marine. Like the other military Pede above said, the clip showing the Marines not saluting Biden was the nail in the coffin for me. There’s no way they would have done that just because. I watched the “inauguration” and that clip happened AFTER he was supposedly sworn in.
There’s just no way in hell the Marines on Presidential duty would not have saluted Biden because they didn’t like him. If he were really President then they would have saluted him like they were supposed to then maybe talked shit about him later when higher ups weren’t around. But he would’ve still got the salute.
I understand your point and just want to ask this: for the Marines not to salute, they would have been told not to by someone. And those who turned their back would also have to be aware that Biden is not being accepted as a legit president and therefore advised to turn their backs. What, in your opinion would they be told to prompt not saluting and wouldn't they wonder why? Or if Biden is in fact, not viewed a legit by the military, wouldn't this be common knowledge among all the troops? I guess I'm just trying to figure out why they aren't talking about it and why it hasn't come out to the public.
From the research I have done, it also appears to be standard for some Marines to face the Presidential motorcade and for some to turn their backs (for security purposes). You can see a comparison online of the Biden vs. Trump inaugurations, and the military officers were in the same formation (some with backs turned) for Trump.
Those are valid questions I don’t really have an answer to. I know the saying “loose lips sink ships” so I can see how telling anyone the plan would put it at risk. But something is definitely fucky.
Semper Fi Devil Dog...... I agree, there's no way Marines assigned Presidential duty would openly disrespect the President of the United States.....
We're taught to respect/salute the Rank, not the person. That also applied to foreign officers, both ally and enemy.
Look at POW camps during WW2
The Marines "protocol" is slightly different from the other branches - if I remember correctly, you do not salute if You're out of uniform or not wearing your cover.
The media said that there are multiple nuclear footballs and potatus was given one at noon on the 20th. If true, you can't judge anything by the location of any football, because you don't know which one is active. I suspect this is disinformation, so we can't draw any conclusion from Trump taking it with him to FL
True. Trump could also be telling Biden that he accidentally "misplaced" AF1, and if he's patient, he just knows it'll turn up eventually ...
Maybe he parked it at is "other" mansions or something ... and Biden's so mentally far gone, that he believes him, because Biden definitely knows a thing or two about losing stuff / forgetting ... :)
Re: your question, it looks like Biden did in fact receive a 21-gun salute...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcboston.com/news/national-international/presidential-salute-battery-marks-bidens-inauguration-with-21-gun-salute/2283979/%3famp
He did receive a salute, however that is not the point of this thread. It was the manner, form and what that form represents that is being pointed out.
I’m confused then. It appeared the original post was stating that he did NOT receive a 21-gun salute, but rather a 3-gun salute. But there is evidence that he did, in fact, receive a 21-gun salute. That was my point.
That was a short clip that did not show all the shots.
https://www.wfmz.com/news/cnn/us-national/trump-farewell-21-gun-salute/video_5f93a17a-3ac9-5a23-92ac-40199ae779c5.html
youre wrong. this is a 21 gun salute. notice the difference?
Yeah weird it's almost like that's all Q has ever been since the very beginning. Confirmation bias taken to the extreme. You're so close to self-awareness, but not quite there yet.