I challenge someone to find me a positive post that uses the n word anything will work. It's the only word like that. That's y they banned it
Edit* plz dont message with the same response as the first 50 not one person has given what I ask yet so many responses. I answered the same question 20 times I'm not gonna do it read the comments. Love u all GOD WINS
As a language teacher I've always followed the principle of context. If the phrase isnt used in a derogatory term then it shouldn't be assessed as such. Another mantra is, you cant get offended on the behalf of someone else.
On an anonymous messaging board how do you know the race of the person talking? Should a white moderator ban a black user for saying it? The only speech that should be banned is hate speech - defined as a real incitement of violence; e.g. "I wish someone would kill xxxxxx", otherwise you get a slippery slope that Reddit started off with.
Like I said show me a positive post on here where the n word was used not negative or hateful
Again that's a logical fallacy because it's entirely subjective. It can be used in a meme, it could be quoting someone, it could be used ironically or sarcastically. You dont get to pick what's a positive post and what's a negative post, and neither do I, the community as a whole does. During my time on GAW I've never seen any vitriol and malicious behaviour, and it's a welcoming place, especially compared to places like r/politics.
Like I said go back through as far as it will let u and show me something. What u said has never happened. Just cause we could make it happen what there doing today is cutting off shills supply
You aren't even saying anything bro. Did you even read what I said? Your definition of a "positive post" is different from EVERYONE elses definition of a positive post, it's not an echo chamber. And I didnt understand a word of what the rest of your comment said, seems like you're trying to be intentionally illiterate
Fine show me a single post that uses it in a way that helps truth
Ah see what you did there? you just did something we like to call 'moving the goalpost'. Your original point was proven to be wrong so you decide to change your mind about the parameters of what the original topic was about.
Ignoring this, the same idea still stands, you dont outright ban specific words because they "dont show truth" (tbh I dont know how using a word shows either truth or lies as that doesnt make sense), you let the community decide. It's an insult to our intelligence to say "we decide what words you can and cannot say", if it's a hateful and false post it wont get upvotes, simple as.
I didnt move I expanded big difference I included more
It is not about using words in a way that helps the truth. Its about being able to use whatever words you want to. I don't like that choice of words, but if people want to use them, thats their right. You apparently dont believe in freedom. your idea of freedom comes with an asterisk. Once you start being ok with banning words, you're no better than twitter. faggot.
But this site is about truth so u lost me and them ur end response really lost me. Love u GOD WINS
You don't get to dictate the language others choose to use. If you feel the need to police the words other people use then you're an authoritarian.
Doesn't matter at this point, this board is censoring that word. I used it in a response to your point and it was taken down by a Moderator. So the board is already effectively being censored, no more need to have the discussion. My guess is that on this last go around when they were looking for Moderators, some libtards got hired. Nice job screening for idiocy.
Your right in the world but this board needs to have structure. Hate destroys easily. The n word is the only word like this show me a positive post with the n word. If they ban fuck yes I will he right with u. But this site is about truth and truth and unity go hand in hand.
This is a Q site
What does that matter
No word or type of speech should ever be banned if we are to believe in freedom of speech...
This site is not a free speech site. We have rules.
You can't cuss in school without getting in trouble, or say the N word at work, right? Free speech just means you can't get criminally charged for what you say. The gov't can't put limits on speech. But there are plenty of places in life where you can't just say whatever you want without consequences of some nature. So sure you can say it, but the mods have set rules and have a right to ban anyone that breaks those rules. If you don't like it you can leave.
The main problem I have with Twitter is the fact that they are not applying the rules equally to all users, not that they have rules. So as long as the mods are applying the rules equally, I don't see a problem.
Thank u so much it's nice to have a friend back me up it's crazy how this post blew up and the response I got love u friend
And that does make sense, as long as it stops at banning that word.
In the world yes but this site is a site about truth. Truth requires a structure and u have to keep out hate. The n word is always destructive on this site show me a post where someone brings anythi g to the table using the n word
Truth requires a structure that keeps out hate? There’s a reason that “hateful” forums are places where often the most truth can be gleaned. Where is the threshold for what is considered hate speech? Does the first amendment have a clause regarding hate speech? Does Q advocate for an internet bill of rights? Would that IBOR have a clause killing hate speech? Is it just this one word that concerns you or is there a list? Does that list grow or shrink with geopolitics?
Who defines "hate", especially on a site where everyone is anonymous? "Hate" has a context to it, and in the modern world, it's always some intersectional bullshit. Nobody here knows any of that about anyone else here.
This is not a place for PC. Rules are fine, but they need to have the smallest footprint possible, and not be defined by modern PC language do's and don't's. That isn't free speech, and our ability to think critically is impaired when emotionalism rules.
Ok, faggot.
Love u GOD WINS
Agreed.
Lovr conquers all friend
can you lend a nigga a pencil?
Now "Dawson needs to be "[trained]" like a slave"
I'm just saying, this is where we're headed with banning words.
Yes, I agree with you. If you read this thread entirely.. Just a bunch of arguments online. Freedom of speech is my point.
I will answer your question. Your post uses the "n" word. You're arguing for banning the use of the word. By your own definition this post is a "positive post". If the word was banned/censored you would not have been able to make this post.
And before you say "but saying 'n' is not the same thing". It is conceptually exactly the same as spelling it out in full. Otherwise nobody here would know WTF you were talking about.
Hey let me just say while ur argument is in no way right but it does have truth to it. I fell u gave the best argument
All Im sayin is that if its in a catchy song and nobody is around then I'm sayin it.
Nigeria is a great place too visit in the winter time.
Exactly. Great swimming holes there. My Niger friends love this river. They are known as Nigerians. [Note the lack of misspelled words in this sentence.]
Haha u guys are ro much
I've had black friends I have said it to but that is because a respect level is earned. Most black people if u get to know them good u can use it with them from time to time or very least get away with a slip joking.around. but outside that we all know u cant say it. It has to much hatred..black people tried to take it back but it didmt work as well as they hoped AMD now were here
My black friends call my me "my nigga" when we great each other. They are welcomed by me in a similar fashion. Is your argument about the "hateful" way people treat each other? I also don't think people should do that. Yet it is their right of freedom of speech to do so.
In real world yes but this website is for the truth it has to remain for all. So they have to keep that stuff out. The n word divided when used with the truth
The truth is you can use that word in a positive way. Don't be an ass is the real lesson.
Thank u very true.
But how do u use it positive way on this site
Guess not tell me plz
Be positive to the people you are talking too. Its FUCKING EASY.
Don't be an idiot and say it, regardless of race it's disrespectful. If your saying it your on the evil side too, don't get too inclined to hating and shit, we have to set the example here.. We're here to help people and win back our country...
Why should we give the word that power it's a word. I said ot to them because there was love there. Love conquers all
By banning a word, you give it power.
Yes but by keeping it it hurts the truth. If the truth is tied to evil negative history words like that then we risk black people being pushed away and once again being left out. If they ban fuck I will join u. But this is about the truth coming out
Yes plz read my response to everyone else I'm done typing it. No hard feeling man love u joke u sent earlier. Everyone is just saying the same thing
U to man and thanks I didn't wanna type that out one more time. I get why it's a slippery slope but this site is about truth and truth cant be tied to divison in any way. Hope ur doing well to man
Which mod
What do u mean u didnt ask for his handle
So you weren't really banned then?
You are angry and don't want live in a world where you might be told something that offends you? If that is not the world you want to live in, then I am afraid you can't live anywhere but one that completely controls your thought and speech. It will not be my world. I do not agree with that level of control over my own mind. God wins. Lover wins.
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Just be a good human I think is the point these Anons are trying to get across.
Sure. Free speech should just be let be. Down vote it if you don't like it. However why are you reporting people?
Weren't you just telling me its not Anons jobs to just help people realize they should just be good people?
This whole site is based on the idea that humanity is overall "good" and we should treat each other better. Of course deport the shills. Your responses are part of this free speech movement. We are apart of the community. A part of the growth of freedom of thought. Please stop being against that. Downvote me all you want. We share info to better ourselves and each other. Our "jobs" are to help each other better ourselves and live better lives through truth. Picture painted.
"It's the only word like that."
Are you sure?
I agree with you there is no reason to use it, but that is not really what the discussion is about. This particular word is causing issues not because of the nature of what it is, but because of the external nature of those with whom we are fighting. We all know that Q is not a racially motivated group, but yet we are tarnished with that brush daily by the other side. Then, they send shills over here to try and poison the discussions so that they can justify their position. OK. I get it. This is cyber warfare.
But, here is the rub. If we allow them to do this with racism, what else can they use this tactic on? Maybe next they will call us Satan worshipers or baby killers or some equally horrible tag that more properly represents them. Then they send shills over here, and we have to block out another area of thought. And another. And another. And so on.
I am much more concerned about 2 things rather than the actual banning:
Having given into this tactic from the globalists, how do we make sure they don't simply switch to another word? What guarantee do we have from the mods that the bans stop here and go no further?
Why did the mods not discuss this strategy with us as a group before they made a blanket decision as to the best way to counter this threat? It wouldn't have taken much to ask for feedback from the group, and explain their reasoning before pushing through with a dictatorial ban.
We are discussing this because it is a very, very scary tactic the mods have embarked upon, and puts our entire community at risk. In fact, this tactic is so egregious and so opposed to what we represent, that one has to wonder if they aren't doing this on purpose as an experiment to see how we will all react.
I hate the word. I see no value in it. But I will vigorously defend your right to say it, as I expect you to defend my right to call you the disgusting maggot you are if you do. That is our core value here. How can we simply give that up?
How can the mods think that would ever be OK?
I believe we are fighting an enemy slowly running out of tactics. The n word is the one word that could automatically turn away a person. They have to cut off all road then enemy has then we can attack
I think that is a dangerously Machiavellian perspective. The ends justify the means. Ever watched Star Trek? They often have these kinds of moral hazard episodes where they ask the audience to consider how much of their core values to give up in order to win a battle.
This seems to be one of those cases. To think that we shouldn't discuss such a monumentally important question is naive.
I retract my upvote of the original posting regarding permanent bans on this word. Should've read deeper.
The first reply from Psydo5 makes good points, along with everyone else discussing what freedom of speech really is. This is what I mean when I've referred to the destruction of our language. PC bullshit has so distorted how we even think about communication, that when we encounter true freedom of speech, we default to the PC mindset and freeze.
Really like the concept "Another mantra is, you can't get offended on behalf of someone else." This is pure PC snowflake behavior. The point about this being an anonymous site is quality too.
Thank you all for adding another layer to the awakening for me.
Haha u can have ur upvote. My role was done
Thank you, moderators, for not deleting this thoughtful and daring comment from SuckaFree, which contains a positive use of the N word. See my longer comment for more.
There are so many side convos I have in this thread are u talking about menor someone else.and are u black or just being funny
I see what u/zharklm is doing. He's referring to you, Slechta5614, with one spelling of the N word and with one of its positive definitions, namely, he's calling you "a victim of prejudice similar to that suffered by Black people" as per the Random House Unabridged. (For the link, type "dictionary.com/browse/" and follow it with the word you want to look up, presumably the 6-letter spelling.)
I submit that this is intended as a positive post in the way you mean it. The point is that the N word is often used both fraternally among blacks and also metaphorically by anyone to refer positively to any group-prejudiced person, including the Irish (Roddy Doyle quote at same link) or even Jesus. The fact that many forums draw heavily on the disparaging definitions does not remove the fact that these other positive usages have existed a long time and still exist when used among those for whom positive context is clear. The N word is also not unique in any respect among insults; for instance, the word "kaffir", meaning a black person, is regarded as even more hateful when used in South Africa, where it is literally illegal in some contexts, even though it is hardly known outside its borders. There, I just used the "hateful" word "kaffir" positively.
In short, bans should not be based on words only, but on words and context. No racism, no hate speech, no illegal speech seem pretty simple. We can unify around these principles after the "shill storms" (i.e., onslaughts by those clearly sowing divisiveness who disappear as rapidly as they appear; note that I'm not calling anyone a shill, I'm giving tools to help identify them in one's independent judgment).
Thank you for that. I agree it should be context and word. The message from the mods was shills are attacking using this permanent ban now on the word. I dont feel I should have to explain the mods own words to people because the mods words speak for themselves. I was just trying to gather the debate into a group. Soon there will come a time where we dont need to ban words because Good will be noticeably running things. But until then we should focus on truth. And while truth is similar to free speech its not the same. Truth is a defined thing free speech is endless. So we cant let free speech block out truth until the truth is full free to all then free speech comes into play. This was a really difficult topic for alot of people. As always ur words are greatly appreciated. I need all the help I can get. God bless u and love u