I suppose this could apply to both left and right wingers but was at dinner with two RINOS and got cornered about a few topics, specifically why I will go nowhere near the vaccine (easier), election fraud (little more difficult), and why my sources are credible (most difficult). Thought I did a good job on defense given that there was little I could do in persuading two narrow-minded pals anything I was saying was reasonable. They gave me no chance. But I'm wondering what many of you do in this type of situation, what seems to work better than other things, etc.
I do think we are close to some bigger news, although I worry the only way it will truthfully get to us will be through EAS. Regardless, I do trust the plan and plan on holding the damn line for as long as I possibly can. WWG1WGA.
Vaccine = The theory behind a vaccine is that you get injected with a small sample of a known virus, your body produces antigens in response, and that protects you from getting sick if you get the actual full virus. Problems: vaccines include a lot more things within that can cause serious illness, and the covid vaccine does NOT have the virus (because it has never been isolated AND purified, so nothing exists to put in it) ... SO ... they have INSTEAD come up with a new concept that is (for lack of better term) a GMO substitute that they THINK will produce the antigens. It has NOT been tested in any meaningful way, there is no proof it is safe, and several people have gotten very sick and some died shortly after taking it. Why would you take such a dangerous chance on your health?
Election Fraud = The vote count was stopped at the same time in multiple states, and then SECRETLY re-started in the middle of the night while AT THE SAME TIME thousands of votes ONLY for Biden were inserted into the system. In addition, several states violated their own voting laws, making many of the votes counted fraudulent. You are either FOR the rule of law, or you are AGAINST the rule of law. Which is it?
Sources = What are "valid" sources? Fox, who called the Arizona election with 1% of the vote in, and then later was forced to change their stance? News outlets run by neocons? CNN? MSDNC?
Most likely, you are talking to low information voters who think they have information they don't actually have. Bury them with info. You probably did that, which is why they resort to questioning your "sauce."
Look up these logical fallacies: Appeal to Authority and Ad Hominem. These guys are thowing a heavy dose of both at you -- and that means they have no real argument. They are acting on emotion, not logic.
Excellent. They actually called me out for watching Fox, which I then assured them I stopped watching Fox after the election night when they called AZ so early and went downhill fast after that. I told them six entities own all media outlets, who is in bed with X, Y, and Z, while Z's family member is also in bed with Y's sister. The election fraud one makes no sense on how you can seriously overlook. Gross negligence at best.
You said they are RINOs. What "source" do they consider credible?
Any MSM. They just think Fox leans right and CNN/MSNBC/NPR lean left.
Truly disappointing. They were confused on why I was done with Fox.
Did you show them this video?
https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/064/464/071/original/e9e8e1849b1c4e85.mp4
Or this video about media infiltration:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2pzqf2?syndication=273844
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird
Show them these, and then ask them why they believe government propaganda is legitimate news.
Do NOT let them off the hook to answer that question. They will try to weasle out of it, but ask them: WHY DO YOU BELIEVE GOVERNMENT PROPAGANDA?
Do not accept a non-answer. Even if they change the subject, it will make them think (later).
Also, give them this:
https://www.businessinsider.com/ndaa-legalizes-propaganda-2012-5
The main thing with people like this is they think they are knowledgeable about what is going on, but they do not realize they are fed propaganda. Of course, they would not realize it. If they did, it would not be effective.
Break through that. Break through their false sense of certainty that they know what is going on, make them question whether they are being told the truth, and they will then be FORCED to begin thinking for themselves.
When a RINO is thought-policing you, their facade momentarily drops, and you can see them for what they really are: Cabal parasites.
Golems
Really good posts, MAG76. Enjoyed them.
thx
Scary times to say the least
Why Americans are so quick to listen to foreigners, loxists, and dual citizens for advice confounds me? Grow up damn
You are a braver person than I. I don't deal with RINOs. Period. I would tell them that Fauci and the CDC poo poo'd treatment with a drug that has a 60+ year track record for safety. Then point them to this 2012 paper in the NLM about the safety concerns of mRNA vaccines. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22536382/ For those reasons alone I do not trust Big Med or Big Pharma. https://www.bitchute.com/video/qk7AY1Cjw0xf/
Everyone I know who doesn't want the vaccine brings up simple facts: it's way too new and untested, if it doesn't even last a year then why bother, cheap effective treatments already exist, and you had a much higher chance of dying in a car wreck driving around to do the shopping than from catching it from all the strangers you've been around that day.
Just about the only person I know at this point who is paranoid and jonesing to get the vaccine 1) already has anxiety issues as it is and 2) somehow her whole damn extended family keeps getting COVID. I don't know just what sort of wimpy immune systems they have and how they keep getting it while cowering in place while the rest of us go about our lives and never get it. Meanwhile I know (2) confirmed cases total out of all of my friends, family, and coworkers and one of them only spent two days in the hospital.
That actually shut one down really fast when he was making a fuss over me not sanitizing my hands when I was not going to be touching any of his things anyway. He got really sheepish when I told him to stop acting like a commie fascist, I bet he'd have had a heart attack if I said that hand sanitizer is white supremacy (isn't that the new go-to word now?)
Genocide masquerading as healthcare. The same people who created the problem are trying to sell us the solution. It's the problem + reaction = solution, Hegalian dialectic, thesis + antithesis = synthesis at work.
Most people do not want to take a conspiratorial view of the world because it scares them. However when you look at history from this point of view, wars and "pandemics" and eugenics and Planned Parenthood and fetal tissue and eugenics and Nazi experiments on humans and "the world is over populated" and the Georgia Guidestones and Agenda 2030 all start to kinda...make perfect sense.
That's why I won't be taking the vaccine.
The response that I've gotten from my unenlightened friends include "it's too far gone to fix," or "nobody can change the election now that its over," or they just dont respond because they think that I finally smoked too much weed and broke my brain.
Well for 1, who wants to be part of the experimental phase? First time this MRNA style vaccine has been used on humans. MULTIPLE long-used drugs that are extremely effective and safe (HCQ and Ivermectin).
Also same people supplying vaccine were involved in creating the Wuhan lab (Fauci & Gates)
Because there is no legal recourse against the manufacturer, your employer, your doctor or the health insurance company. I would rather just buy ivermectin for pennies on the dollar.
You know how much Gilead makes from each Remdesivir treatment? $3500, or $500 per dose.
Haven't any vaccine since two decades ago and I have not health issue (Period). Other hand, my partner had every vaccine that is available and have major health issues after issues. The last 2 decades, all i had was a common cold and lasted 3-5 days.
Agree with TheJake, there are other ways to treat it effectively. Will they always give it to you? that's a different battle. But, the chances of me (healthy young adult) getting seriously ill from the virus are already significantly low. To put something in my body that was created by big pharma in less than a year...and they're talking about requiring it? All signs say there is no reason to get it. Similar reasoning for why it really isn't necessary to get an annual flu shot. Have a healthy lifestyle, have vitamins (C & D) daily, you should be over halfway there.