I've been reading through the Wayfair stuff from the past day or two & am reminded of why I initially got my son into taekwando. I recommend it for everyone. They'll learn self defense skills for sure, but the best thing they can learn is to yell when someone grabs them.
Many times kids do not say a word because they're too trusting of an adult that approaches them confidently. At our academy, each class has a section that teaches them how to yell and how to break grip. These two things might just save their lives and save you a lot of heartache.
i beat up my son as much as possible. homeschool karate.
??? same here???
he is my hero.
"It's the same reason there aren't chicks in the army... It doesn't make sense " - Johnny Lawrence
taekwondo, is fake martial arts man. Pretty kicks that cant win 2v1. Read many articles where taekwondo 'master' got killed trying to fight more than one person at a time.
Have you ever seen a taekwondo main MMA fighter?
Adding those stylish kicks adds a crispness to Krav Maga, the fat boy defense system.
kicks are nice punches are better but a gun in the buns doubles the fun.
seriously though any martial arts is a good work out, beats the gym any day for me.
But don't pick a fight announcing you are a 'black belt' in a weaker system. Other black belts won't hold back.
Also don't think MMA martials like Brazilian Juicejutsu, or Krav is the best. It really depends on where you train, your body type, skill and experience.
Best advice is to not pick fights and have several guns in your buns.
Guns
To be fair most people don't wanna pay to get bruised and choked out these days, so there's the natural peace time decadence as well.
Also I'd like to point out mastering the mind comes first, the body always follows. Determination and discipline is all in the mind.
It's not funny how Khabib's dad always make him get good grades first before he can train. Too bad many have forgotten that truth.
Oh when you go to the gym are your body and mind synced or is the mind ahead of the body visualizing the ideal state?
When you punch do you not visualize it before the action and change the action if the opponent counter?
There's Japanese idea that nothing is faster than the eye which is the processing of information. A talented artist with their hands will always be eclipsed by a dedicated artist with a talented eye.
Believe what you want, what I love about martial arts is when you are wrong there's no denying it as you fall.
Ya boi Joe Rogan has taekwondo base.
that kid is a midget how does he kicks? ball kicks
No shit, looks like broken ribs. It's fluid with perfect form and the angle at 90 deg to the opponent, not kicking up into the chest. It's a thing of beauty. How the fuck does Rogan smoke so much dope, commentate the UFC, do comedy specials, have a black belt in BJJ (was a brown belt for 8 years under Eddie Bravo), still train in stand up and look downright lethal, have one of the highest rated pod casts in the world, work out and do cardio like a madman and still trip balls in his oxygen enriched sensory deprivation float tank. How does he fit it all in FFS.
Maybe we are doing things wrong
I have a daughter, so I've been training her with the techniques I learned in Navy EOD.
I'm sorry, OP, but taekwondo, at least the way it's taught here in the States is too flashy and will lead to your son getting his ass royally beat down in a true fight.
If you're wanting a system that works great for self defense and ALSO teaches a proper mindset technique, go with, at a minimum, Hapkido. After the first 3 belts, it's all weapons based training and each level katta is a different weapon. I started learning Hapkido before going into EOD. I faired way better with the combat hand-hand training in EOD School with Hapkido than the guys that were skilled in taekwondo as kids. They got their asses beat up pretty good by the instructors during sparring practice in the first couple days.
What we learned in Navy Special Warfare is more akin to Jeet Kune Do. Which is what I suggest finding for ALL of your family. Most of the moves and techniques taught in combat hand-hand in the Special Warfare community come from the original jeetkunedo Bruce Lee developed. He even taught some of the original SeALs/UDT guys and some of his best students, who went on to start their own schools, continue to train various SpecOps, SWAT, FBI's HRT, etc today.
If you can't find a class near you, you can go to jeetkunedo.org I believe, and order the whole video set. It's relatively inexpensive and taught by some of the original students of Bruce Lee and some of the second generation students. That system is the father of Mixed Martial Arts and is one of the MOST EFFECTIVE forms of Martial arts when it comes to all around fighting. Which is what is needed in modern hand-hand combat. And the self confidence it breeds once you become proficient is invaluable.
Taekwondo is centered too heavily on kicks and showy forms that I can defeat easily, even being out of shape and having a lumbar fusion. It's a good starting point to build strength and self confidence, but at the end of the day, even an untrained yet slightly skilled street fighter will be able to defeat a black belt taekwondo student 90-95% of the time.
Just some words of advice for everyone here.
Edit:
Go here:
http://www.jeetkunedo.org/
TKD teaches plenty of hand, elbow, and knee strikes that are practical. They are also integral to the “showy” kicks and forms, so the simple strikes are more likely to be second nature. Many of the strikes have blocks associated with them as well, or in similar form and fashion.
Yes, someone using ONLY form correct Krav Maga or BJJ would likely wipe the floor with someone ONLY using form correct Taekwondo. However, in an actual fight, that would not happen. Especially in a self defense/abduction situation, your attacker is unlikely to be a trained assassin or MMA fighter. Just like in firearms training, when the pucker factor is introduced everything breaks down to your proficiency in the most basic skills youve learned. If attacked, everyones genetic baseline is fight/flight.
So for those who move to fight, anyone trained in any type of discipline, even just street fighting, knows that creating some kind of distance is an essential first step. If you can, you gain an advantage to make a decisive move. If you cant, many of your options, outside of simply fighting like hell til you CAN create distance, are likely off the table. While some disciplines are certainly better suited for regaining an advantage once you are grabbed, you STILL have to remember that, once puckering, you revert to your most basic level of instinct and training.
Thats a lot of words, but just pointing out that nearly ANY disciple, and TKD specifically, will be good for self defense at its core. Its easy to say such and such is better because in sport it may be. Just remember that fighting for sport in NO WAY equals fighting off an actual attacker. Especially in regards to our kids. They need the skills to fight off an attacker and gtfo. Being able to choke them out or break their arm or kill them would be a great bonus, but thats not the main point of self defense.
Find a good MMA gym, Kickboxing mixed with some BBJ! Lets stop raising pink haired pussies!
I'm in with him! Have lost 50 lbs in a year and gained plenty of strength. Our academy in particular focuses on taekwando but mixes in boxing and BJJ, since the owner of the academy has spent time doing both of those as well. His philosophy is to learn multiple fighting styles to account for weaknesses.
In Biden's America, it will be illegal for a child to deny the advances of a pedophile.
Sad But True
All 4 of my children are black belts.
My oldest daughter, who is now 18, is a Taekwondo Black Belt. She still attends training. Best decision we ever made. Also Taekwondo is wonderful for the really young ones too, like 4-5 year olds.
My other daughter, 16, was not interested and had no formal training. However, she is WELL aware of the arts of screaming, flailing, biting, and jamming thumbs in eye sockets until she feels brain...
...and also crotch shots. She knows NOTHING is “unfair” when she fears for her safety
My 5-yo is actually doing trial classes this week!
Just make your kids wrestle and teach them how to strike at some point.
Good advice, OP.
I'm a black belt in Kyokushin karate and my 9 year old, daughter trains with my in my club.
What I did before she was okd enough to begin formal training in Kyokushin, was to buy the Gracie Jiu-jitsu 'Bully Proof' program from their website. I highly recommend it for all children, the instructional videos are very clear and well put together and they cover things like releases from wrist grabs and how to resist being pulled or pushed along by a kidnapper.
They teach your kid basic tools to handle most conflict situations in a fun, play-like atmosphere.
https://www.gracieuniversity.com/Pages/Public/Information?enc=5ruAJc3RhhlwP%2bWe1ep5rQ%3d%3d
Just don't buy into the BJJ hype too much. Groundwork is just asking for your face to get stomped on.
u/ProphetBoi: I am unfortunately not training despite I really SHOULD but "taekwando" as self defence ? I don't know... But if I would be asked about martial arts worth of practice I would mention:
krav maga (israeli system) or sambo (russian system) and silat (old indochina system for use of weapons)
good or even possibly deadly ones. However I wouldn't trust krav maga,but getting russian sambo instructor in USA will be real pain of ass...
not being American,so not served in US military so I don't really know is MCMAP* cohesive system like sambo-sistema or not.
By the way about sambo being nearest military one - look for Kadochnikov.
Got that too, but I definitely don't think they're obsolete. There is a reason it's still taught in the military
BJJ is great 1v1, but when there are 2+ attackers its viability takes a nosedive.
Groundwork should be one of the tools in your tool box, but not your only tool.
Brazilian Ju Jitsu is Jocko-approved. Years of MMA champs shows that BJJ it’s effective. Point is to submit (choke out) your opponent so you can run away.
I like BJJ as an option. Starting with a striking art and will be incorporating more grappling as we get better
Great for 1v1, but when you're facing multiple opponents, do you think they will patiently wait for you to choke out the first guy,as if they're extras in a movie?
Great point. I think BJJ is an essential - to be paired with others however.
The fist is mightier than the pen. The knife is mightier than the fist. The bullet is mightier than the knife. And yes, you should totally get your kids able to defend themselves.
BJJ, muay thai and boxing
My kid is 2 and I'm already trying to find a place to get her in. It's hard to find a place but this is absolutely my priority. If I have to learn and teach her myself I will.
Another tip is that laces can be used to break free from zip-tie handcuffs (which are used more frequently as they can be adjusted to the size of the child's wrists - and fasten quicker than rope).
[Here is a pretty good video explaining how it's done.] (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/femail/video-1329105/Could-escape-zip-tie-handcuffs-using-shoelaces.html) I'd recommend teaching it to all your kids and small relatives. It's horrible that we live in a world where they need to know this skill, but better safe than sorry.