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Thank you Evspra and to everyone who read the sticky and explanation.
posted 5 years ago by krome359 5 years ago by krome359 +99 / -0
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– RequiemMinuet 15 points 5 years ago +15 / -0

I heavily disagree with the direction this site’s taken over the last few hours. It’s like this place has been compromised.

  1. The Great Awakening cannot last forever.
  2. By that same logic, any “shill” knows there’s a deadline to turn around.
  3. Consequences are coming regardless.
  4. A ban on any kind discussion makes absolutely no sense unless this site has been compromised, and the justification for said ban is based of circumstantial evidence in the first place.
  5. All evidence currently is already being taken with a grain of salt.
  6. “No outside comms” can mean anything depending on the interpretation. How many dates have anons gotten wrong?

Evspra is not Q. Their job is to moderate the board, not create unrest. Rule 5 is in this case direct contradiction of Rule 4. I am not promoting GN, but this is absolutely the wrong way to be going about things.

(edit: I read the sticky, but I'm editing this hours after the fact. I'm still standing by my point that this is a bad precedent to set for evidence even if GN is disinfo or shill.)

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– krome359 [S] 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

So what proofs do you have George News is real?

Did you even read my post? Did you read the sticky?

Evspra never claimed to be Q. But he did prove that George News is benefiting by faking as a "Q insider". That is stolen valor.

Do you expect the mods of this page to sit back and let people walks away with stolen valor? Are you okay with stolen valor?

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– RequiemMinuet 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

Lin Wood has cross referenced GN several times. He’s also endorsed GE, who was similarly removed from Twitter. GE has also endorsed GN.

Of course, this probably won’t convince you since you’re of the mindset that if (x22) endorses GN, then (x22) is similarly comped. This then raises the question, if x22’s information is faulty, then so is Lin Wood’s and countless others.

So far, the only evidence actually provided is circumstantial evidence (software used, API, etc. etc) but nothing on what kind of outfit GN actually is, properly outlines business registries, definitive proof GN has no military ties whatsoever.

Most of the armed forces (forward facing) still rely on publicly available infrastructure. The US Army got into trouble a while back for doing a semi-recruitment run through Twitch. Does that mean the entirety of the Army is rot?

What this drive does is completely eliminate a source of redpills. Even AJ wasn’t a Q supporter, but what he did do was help raise suspicion through his own behavior driving more people here.

When we say “hold the line,” this is what we mean. GAW should and continue to remain a content aggregation source, not a narrative driving source. We don’t turn on a dime because someone tells us to.

I will continue to watch GN from a distance, but this does not mean that the GAW staff are necessarily reliable either. There is also the possibility that both are bad actors as well.

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– krome359 [S] 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Lin Wood is a great lawyer and a true patriot.

But he is not invincible to disinformation. He is just one man with God.

And as I have already mentioned, "One single person cannot have time to fact check nor have the technological background like Evspra to dig deep enough to see how fraud George News is."

Lin Wood is busy throughout his days fighting the attacks coming his way. There are probably like a thousand people emailing him everyday sourcing stuffs from George News so he's going to trust it and promote it just like X22.

This doesn't discredit Lin Wood as he himself admit he following sources that he found "just like us". Go look at this telegram, he did say this 100%. People like Lin Wood, and X22 needs OUR HELP to get the truth. We need to be the one digging and fact checking. Not constantly relying on them to find the truth for us. They are only but one man. That is the perspective here, not division.

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– Aenima1 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Check OP post history please. Nothing but deleted comments.

Op is ? shill. This attack is 100% coordinated. Check the front page. Check new. This clown has “decided” for us. Reg flags abound.

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– krome359 [S] 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Let see here,

-My comment get deleted by the mods in the past. -Here I am defending a mod. -Profit ???

LOL shill callers like you are super funny. Where is the logic in this? Yeah my comments get deleted by the mods because there were a conflict of interest and communication. That doesn't mean I outright think this site is against my beliefs nor do I think that "OH MY GOD THEY DELETED MY COMMENT THEY ARE COMPROMISED!!!"

If anything, I sounds more like a sane human being than you. It seems like I still have the ability to disagree with a certain subject and have the humbleness to agree with something is right.

It's call having a discussion/argument, I don't blindly follow someone edicts but when the facts are right the facts are right...just because I disagree with the some people in the past doesn't mean I'm going to cancel them or call them a shill.

Do you see me calling people who support George News a shill? No, because they are not. I made my post, to highly recommend people to read Evspra sticky before commenting "this site is compromised" because the proofs are that good...and if you still disagree after reading the sticky you must got some hardcore proofs that George News is real. To which, we haven't seen anything from the "supporters" side...so it just hard-headed-ness.

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– RequiemMinuet 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I have verified it. It's damning (in terms of optics), however it's nowhere close to being decisive.

I'd appreciate it if it was a disclaimer and not an outright blacklist.

And yes, there have been several cases in the past from what I've seen of well meaning anons that have made that exact claim that have been banned. I fully expect this account to be banned at any moment. I don't give a crap. If, and if the mods were wrong, it means this disinformation campaign was successful. It's long term disinformation that the MSM uses to publish their stories. Any sacrifices in the meanwhile mean nothing.

Evspra's track record has absolutely nothing to due with the claims and evidence being presented. I'm aware of the whois, I'm also aware of the supposed bans. However, everything presented has been circumstantial. Against GN? Yes. Rock solid? Far from it. Even if GN was disinfo, the argument presented against it is way too weak.

I don't think that there's anything so far that refutes my point that this website itself is compromised and that fake narratives (datefagging) spews out of here all the time. It's probably by design, and all indicators point to the fact that it's being facilitated, but it's not like this website has gone really anywhere or done anything else unlike GN by keeping morale up even after Q drops have largely ended. Everything that's discussed on this website is done by anons, legitimate and bad actors alike. There will ALWAYS be bad actors on GAW.

With individual TG accounts, they're either disinfo or they're not. That's a heavy accusation to levy.

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– deleted 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0
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– RequiemMinuet 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

You heavily misunderstand the point I'm trying to make. Fine, GN is blatant. The rapid turnaround on it though is itself a red flag that (should the mod team really be compromised in actuality) has the potential to hijack and turn the website against legitimate public informants.

Case in point; why exactly does the cabal try to out their own? It's simple, it gives them an alibi to walk away scott-free.

The same has the potential to happen here too.

There were two primary sources Evspra's argument hinged on, and it was the webpage owner (paper.li) and the use of sourced documents and images from dvids. Just two. Where are the screencaps of the actual messages GAW anons sent? I'm curious. I've seen text confirmation, but not once have I been pointed in the direction of a video that depicts these questions being sent and deleted. Definitive accusations require definitive proof, not a narrative. This should be the standard, but instead we have the opposite.

This is almost the equivalent of saying that .win's site infrastructure is based off of Reddit, who currently exclusively favors promoting left-wing speech and was recently bought out by Chinese interests, and that by copying Reddit's structure .win is creating a similar echo chamber. That's a complete jump in logic.

Currently, GN serves as an aggregate the same way other sites like RCN does. Whether or not people find hope in it is pointless. Fine, GAW can restrict links to it, since they offer nothing. However, once precedent is set, people can use it as basis to do whatever afterwards, and this is a very poor precedent to create on such a short basis.

but it's not like this website has gone really anywhere or done anything else unlike GN by keeping morale up even after Q drops have largely ended.

Yes, we have. We've done a lot. Have you not being keeping up?

And "keeping up morale" through controlled opposition is like wiping your ass with shitty toilet paper but not realizing it. Once you do, you're fucked.

And having a Q discussions forum is very necessary, for sure. Have you researched how suspicious it is that 8ch rebooted as 8kun? There's a whole other rabbit hole on how one of the co-founders claims the site was jacked from him and tried to reboot his own version of the site as 9ch without the Q influence (it failed massively). Have you tried to trace that lead back? That site's being kept up out of necessity. Not out of the original owner's pocket. The Watkins have ties to Nishimura of 2ch and 4chan fame, and you can trace that line back to the government if you tried hard enough. I can't say the same for GAW. Do enlighten me. I already know about the connection to VOAT and that to date, that was the only "true" Q-approved forum apart from the imageboard.

A lot of the realizations users make on this forum are days, weeks, even months behind of what's already discussed on 8kun, which is already assaulted day after day by shills, and without the same heavy handed moderation to shut it down. What this site does is provide an easy gateway, and nothing else. It lowers the bar of entry, and reasonably so, which makes GAW even more of a prime target.

Understandably, Reddit-like forums are a very poor medium for engaging in similar nuanced debate due to the amount of karma ascribed to each posts (if you ended up on .win, chances are you left for similar reasons), so calling me out on my umpteenth account I've created to disregard karma is a moot and irrelevant point.

Common sense goes both ways, but it requires a brain to use first. Good rest of the evening, fren.

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– PurpleTea 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

How do you explain George News cutting Evspra because they asked about the dvidshub.net media they were using to make them look legit? George shut off all commenting now. And hasn't posted since.

I myself (and several others) are banned just because we asked them to address dvidshub.net.

Instead of saying something like "yea those are not original videos sorry for being misleading" or something along those lines or addressing it they shut off comments and haven't said anything about it. Oh wait I'm sorry they did say something to the effect of "You will regret doubting us".

Someone correct me if I'm worng.

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– RequiemMinuet 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

The only places I’ve seen this mentioned is GAW. On absolutely no other platform have I seen GAW mentioned. Troll-initiated disinformation campaigns “originating” from TDW or GAW is not new at all.

For all I know, the assertion that trolls were pestering the chat could completely be true, and that Ev and others really were mistakenly banned. Maybe GN and dvids are actually one and the same entity and GN merely acts as an aggregate same way we do. Maybe Telegram’s been suffering bad phishing attacks for some time and any unauthorized links get autobanned.

I wouldn’t know. There’s not enough information, and there’s already huge gaps in logic being made here.

Screencaps motherfucker, or back off.

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– Slyver 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

How do you explain George News cutting Evspra because they asked about the dvidshub.net media they were using to make them look legit?

George may have banned because they got caught and wanted to silence. Or it could be because Evspra asked a question that looks an awful lot like a shill attack. I'm not saying it was, but it could conceivably be taken as such.

I myself (and several others) are banned just because we asked them to address dvidshub.net.

When one person asks a question that looks like a shill attack, and then more follow up, it looks like an outside attack from a GROUP of shills.

Instead of saying something like "yea those are not original videos sorry for being misleading" or something along those lines or addressing it they shut off comments and haven't said anything about it. Oh wait I'm sorry they did say something to the effect of "You will regret doubting us".

I do not justify my behavior to shills, do you?

Someone correct me if I'm worng.

I'm not saying you are wrong. I am only saying I do not believe you are right. There is a big distinction between the two. The evidence that has been provided against George.news is compelling, but not sufficient to meet the standards of any court of law. Much more important than that though, even if they are Paytriots (or worse) there is still no reason to threaten bans for linking to their posts as we have been doing for a couple months.

Such acts of totalitarianism and censorship cause me to be more wary of Evspra than George.news.

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– deleted 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0
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– CovfefeNegro 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

This site has always been compromised, the owners were phishing this weekend for instance, it is reported as a 'hack', but when you own it you don't really hack it do you?

George sells stuff do they not?

https://files.catbox.moe/mb1ym4.png

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– Nylathria 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Evspra in NO way said you could not discuss anything. He said links from George are banned. Read his sticky.

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– lilsparrow 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Agreed!

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– 307Sleeper 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

I am still on the fence not knowing who or what too believe. I take it all in and try to figure out the fact from fiction. At time it is very hard to tell.

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– krome359 [S] 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

It's not hard to tell when you read the sticky.

Evspra got plenty of proofs, where those pictures come from and George News refuse to put anything out proving that they are real.

Remember, they didn't merely claimed that they are a supporter of Q. They LITERALLY claimed that they are working closely with Trump and Q...and that is a HUGE problem because that put a lot of people hopes on them and so is donations.

After all those allegation and they banned Evspra? Yeah that a 100% red flag. They banned me too after I mentioned the thing Evspra said. Shortly after do they realized banning people might backfired since they poke the hornet nest after banning an important person like Evspra who run GA.win. Now they are sweating not knowing what to do.

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– deleted 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0
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– 307Sleeper 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Thanks for clearing that up for me. Much appreciated my friend.

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– Aenima1 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Somethings up with this.

Check out OP history. This is looking coordinated.

Why no Trump cease and desist?

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– Nylathria 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Trump does not need to come out and point out every PAYtriot. He would spend all his time going through hundreds of videos websites social media sites and on and on. If you follow Q you were told pretty early on NO OUTSIDE COMS. Every single person claiming to be Q or have Q info should be banned by US who know the rule of NO OUTSIDE COMs. Along with the no outside coms is another treasure post from Q and that is be careful who you follow. Both of these are simple requests of us. I have seen so much BS associated with the Q team its mind boggling to me. JFKjr alive Queen dead or not the real Queen as there is some king waiting in the wings to take the throne back. Trump and the March 4th BS Everyone is a body double and the real ones are all arrested or clones. It goes on and on. I dont get it but I have learned to just chuckle and move on from these people and posts. Q has become a great sci fi movie. Its a shame because the real work gets over shadowed and feeds the msm with ammo against Q and Trump by making us all look like crazy idiots.

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– Aenima1 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

The point is that they have monetized his likeness, name and platform. RNC did that and were sued. GeorgeNews has not.

This in itself negates anything found by Evspra. Not that it isn’t relevant, but that info could easily be explained.

Them selling Trump merch without his approval is not so easily explained. And to those that think merch is suspicious.... you enjoying your MAGA hat?

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– krome359 [S] 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Yep, you are definitely one of the logical one in this group.

There are so many BS and paytriots...I too have grown tired of it. The real truth can be seen here https://timothycharlesholmseth.com/ ^ the only guy covering child rescue.

https://t.me/richardcitizenjournalist ^ this guy record footages in DC which is helpful.

I keep it to just these for now to keep my sanity because these are the only REAL thing about the movement these days for me. That is the NG in DC and the child rescue news...well and the pedophile take down. Those are the only thing that keep me believing that the Q drops are with us.

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– krome359 [S] 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

"Coordinated". LOL okay dude, go ahead donate more money to George News no one is stopping you.

I have already said to the mods that I will do a Skype call to prove how "red blooded" American I am. I live in Texas and are friends with multiple U.S. Marine veterans than you ever known. Yes, the way I talk is harsh because that's my personality. I am trying to calm down everyday to not insult people intelligent. If you read what I say at face value then yeah you'll hate me. I am not here to convince everyone that I am correct.

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– matrix_steve 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Agreed. Not sure why everyone is so worked up over this situation. Seems as though some people have a personal vendetta in regards to Georgenews

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– Aenima1 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

They literally say we serve at the pleasure of POTUS, DJT

They are certainly large enough to be on DJT radar. We are, that’s enough. They associate in all his circles. He can’t definitively claim association. He would, however, sue them. 100%

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– pizza_lawyer 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

I agree with the point on Lin Wood, there's a big difference between being wrong or mislead, and lying. If anything Lin was mislead. I also agree with the general premise that George News is Fake after reading the sticky post. I gotta admit that I was completely fooled and have to give a hat tip to the creativity it would take to come up with such a convincing LARP. Too bad they only care about money and not the cause. Love the mods here too btw. I really rely on them and others to sort through the disinfo since I don't have the time or skills to do so myself.

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– krome359 [S] 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Are you serious?

So tell me, why do you think the proofs Evspra found are fake? Sounds like you're a George News Mcshill here.

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– ange 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Everyone comes to “wake up” to different points of view at different times and with different evidence. It is weird to say “This is settled, no more questions allowed.”

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– Classical1 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

NO evspra explicitly said NO BANS for discussion. You need to go re-read those posts.

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– ange 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I’m not talking about evaporator. I’m talking about this ^ person trying to shame people for still having questions. Some of the evidence may be compelling. Some was not.

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– krome359 [S] 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Look, if people who disagree with Evspra got credible evidence that George News is not shilling it then please provide it.

Name calling mods and saying Evspra is suspicious is not good at all, because he/she spent hours researching and digging up dirt on George and people like you just bash it as "this is division! this is shill!" without providing ANY sensible argument points to why this is the case.......is just blind.

Read the sticky, and after the reading the sticky you still think George News got connection with Q and Trump...then go ahead, have at it in George chat.

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– krome359 [S] 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

When it is clear as day light that they got caught spoofing "regular videos that DOD and pictures puts out that anyone can find" as their own! that is caught red handed.

Did Evspra banned George News without proving any proofs? No, he provided CLEAR and CONCRETE facts that clearly show George News is a fraud. So no this isn't a “This is settled, no more questions allowed”, this is "we have found proofs that they are fraud...and here is the proofs...and it is red handed...this is now settled".

When you catch a criminal stealing a TV from your house, and that is the EXACT TV that was stolen from your house. Are you going to sit there and be like "Oh by the way Mr. police officers, let's wait and have an open forum discussion whether in fact this man stole the exact TV from my house."

That's like the liberals saying George Floyd didn't died from drugs even though the autopsy come back saying he was full of drugs.

Do you need anymore logical explanations?

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– Cyphr 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

A lot of Shilly McShillface people here trying to white-knight GN.

If people read the proof in the stickies and STILL can't figure out that GN is fraudulent, then they are not cut out to do Q research, at a minimum. Losing them would be no loss at all.

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