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I am not sure what to make of this but I want to believe this is real, Hopium? Who can disprove the authenticity of this. GESARA/QFS related (www.fosterswiss.com)
posted 5 years ago by LiberalTearFiend 5 years ago by LiberalTearFiend +26 / -0
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– therobots 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

I believe NASARA/GESASA is the end game. The financial system for the great awakening.

Others wil say it’s not real but can never back it up with anything.

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– Unhappymeal 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

This has always been my mind set on NESARA/GESARA. It’s the final prize after all the hell spawns have been taken care of and brought to justice. We’ll see.

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– Hombredelgato 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Quantum computers don’t do classical computing. Managing a banking system would not require a quantum computer. Also, a satellite only relays information, no need for a “quantum satellite” to handle that kind of process.

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– kula 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Quantum seems to mean whatever one wants it to mean.

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– hundro 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Whenever it's been explained to me, my brain feels like it made of 60% silly putty.

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– kula 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

quantum, dude. quantum. (in a wise voice)

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– LiberalTearFiend [S] 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Those are good points but I think have compatible satellites no matter the capacity would be important when rolling out a technology along the lines of this. I don't think from what was written there that the technology relies or is hinged on the satellites

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– Fringe--dweller PRO 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

sorry to be picky, but satellites are not limited to be relays or routers, they can be used for any purpose that an earth based computer can do.

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– redtoe-skipper 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Logical thinking:

When the claim is that NESARA is LAW, a US LAW, then the process should have been followed,right?

  1. Where is the Public LAW number?
  2. Who were the House members and Senators who voted yea on this?
  3. When was that?
  4. When was it sent to the President's desks?
  5. Was there a VETO?

It is claimed a 75 page document had been sitting in the Congress for quite some time. Where is the documentary evidence?

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– Hayle 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I remember reading that it was introduced during bill Clinton’s presidency, I don’t know the answer to any of those questions and I’m suspect of anything that’s too good to be true

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– redtoe-skipper 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

And rightly so. If you would compare the Great Reset ideas with Nesara, you may find a couple of thing to be a commonality.

So, based on different issues I have seen, I would say, indeed, we are facing a reset. The question is which way the dime will fall. Heads or tails.

Personally, I'd rather see a liberty driven reset out of the debt prison, like many others.

But to introduce a plan based on information that cannot be checked on a couple of points, which to me are quite decisive as towards its validity, seems a bridge too far.

I remember this from the time of ATS, above top secret, were this plan was touted, and there was a General appointed President and the Dragon family, blabla ..... at any rate, difficult to get some basic confirmation in place.

I personally think it to be a pipedream.

That said: what would be the alternative? I think to allow gold and silver to do its work. And perhaps combine it in a way that allows for a tiny form of elasticity, to dampen when things get out of hand, based on currency created by people, not banks. That of course may include all kinds of crypto, in local and regional fashion. It would require a simply straightforward exchange.

But it would be fun, though, as mortgages can be introduced in those currencies, and savings accounts. Meaning, you could have your debt in a crypto that shows to be inflationary, while savings could be in a currency that is deflationary. Your salary could be in a third, connected to gold or silver or both.

Just as in Switzerland with the Frank and WIR, or in Albania and Poland with local currency and Euro. These currencies balance each other out, when pressure in the market is great enough.

You are aware of this Banker, Ronald Bernard. He has introduced a new bank, called Blije Bank, bank of Joy. Its structure is cooperative and goes for 100% reserve.

Also, certain gold and silver account providers use a system a la paypal. An email address is enough to move some gold or silver from one account to the next. Or, you could simply order delivery. All within the bounds of 100% reserve.

So, it seems like we already have the infra to move away from a debt based system. The problem is government (taxes)

Fun fact: During the Middle Ages in England, for a time there was little coin available. In order to allow payment of taxes, certain sticks were used.

On the other hand, this system put the barter economy under pressure, as people were rushing to get those sticks. Artful robbery.

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– Hayle 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I respect and agree with your post. Some future reading in there for me to educate myself on the history more!

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– LiberalTearFiend [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

This is more about GESARA. I think it is also important to realize that when we are in such crazy times sometimes the law becomes less relevant , these are times of war and the enemy has taken this out of the realm of a legal fight. To me the control of a new economic roll out is essentially what countries fight over.

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– Jackdagger 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Here's My theory: if Gesara/Nesara is real then it is also perfectly paving the way for the end times. Trump may control it at first but to think it won't be taken over eventually is naive imo. Humans are humans. Even with globalist gone temporarily there will always be more waiting in the wings trying to take power.

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– Fringe--dweller PRO 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

This is the first article I've seen that goes into any details on what the new financial systems might look like. Most sources speak vaguely about a QFS but provide no details to help in understanding what it means to you and me.

I always keep in mind that the Globalists and Patriots both have differing views on which of their respective systems will prevail, but an essential part of any new system needs to be the prevention of manipulation by the corporations. A fraud proof system is needed.

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– LiberalTearFiend [S] 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Its a really compelling website too, focuses on a lot of other non crazy things and seems like a lot of effort was involved to be a larp, and the lack of it trying to sell me things or get too much personal information or saying things I can debunk has me thinking there may be something to this. I also believe nd after watching the assault of the World economic Forum that the currency and information control is the end game

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– Fringe--dweller PRO 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

The website might explain some of what a QFS may look like, but the rest of it seems to be a pure money laundering outfit.

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– RadDog2020 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

When people say "quantum financial system" it doesn't have anything necessarily to do with cryptos or quantum computers.

From what I've heard and read, It refers to the way that language is used in contracts referring to time. The idea is that contracts that we use are written in a way that mixes up past present and future when describing the terms of the contract and that is a big part of leaving loopholes to exploit the system and legal confusion that makes the fraudulent system stand like a house of cards. Quantum grammar is what they call it when you make the contract language make sense in real time and the words "add up" and dont "cancel eachother out".

There is a lot of confusion between, NESARA, "quantum financial system" and "the great reset" I think the term "great reset" by the globalists is being pushed to confuse people into thinking it's like NESARA, the great reset is just an even more controlled version of the same thing we have now, it's truly a reset or an upgrade to their system, NESARA is a revolution, it changes things for the better cryptocurrency will probably be a big part of either one but that's nothing to worry about because we already live in a digital financial system, cryptography and blockchains just make it more secure. The important thing is what backs the money, not the form the money is in.

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– RadDog2020 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

by the way, this article seems to be vaguely describing "the great reset" not NESARA. It describes a top down fiat system with an extra control body at the top. They confuse thing by talking about tokenizing gold 9something already being done by some crypto companies and the SEC cracked down on the best one so far that does that) It still leaves the possibility to sell the title of the gold to more than one person at at time and no way to take delivery on physical gold, you pretty much have to be able to take physical delivery of the backing asset for a currency to not be a scam, like you could go trade your crypto token that backs an ounce of gold with anyone for an ounce of gold with no middle man or "global guarantee account supervisors". I also like how they threw "the alliance" in there, surprised they didnt mention Q.

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– LiberalTearFiend [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

https://www.inbute.com/quantum-financial-system/

another at first glance legitimate website seems to cooperate the GESRA idea....

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– Greekish 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

You can't "cooperate" an idea. What did you mean to write?

Confirm? Corroborate? Support? Affirm?

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– LiberalTearFiend [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

*corroborate

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– Monomial 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Let's be clear. Quantum financial system simply means algorithms that are resistant to exploiting the computational capabilities of quantum computers in order to penetrate their security. Many of today's security algorithms are vulnerable to things like Shor's algorithm, which can render their security ineffective once quantum computers are available.

Also recognize that "quantum" and "quantitative" are completely different words, even though they sound similar. Calling something a quantitative algorithm does not mean you need a quantum computer to do it. You can run the entire financial system today and in the future on classical computers, and simply use protection and encryption that is secure against future quantum computing attacks.

I will say nothing about all the mystical, metaphysical things that people have piled on top of this. A financial system is just an accounting methodology. It says nothing about the ethical standards of those who decide how to apportion resources. Any system can be made to be good or evil depending on who is operating it.

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– LiberalTearFiend [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I appreciate your insight. From what I have gathered there really does seem to be a battle or race to this new level of technology and infrastructure on which to build upon including the large investment of the central banks and tech which also includes the space/satelitte game. I do believe by the end of the decade we will see who won the race to those technologies and what that implies for humanity moving forward. Did you check out the website?

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– Monomial 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I did read it.

You need ubiquitous, reliable wireless coverage if you are going to implement a complete digital currency as they describe. That is the reason for the satellite buildout. Terrestrial lines can be intercepted and blocked by bad actors with physical access. Satellites can also be jammed of course, but jamming signals can be detected and destroyed...even from space if necessary.

Understand you do not need anything quantum. That is just a marketing strategy and a red herring. It is incidental to what they are doing.

Whether or not this new system is a good or bad thing is a different question entirely. THAT depends on who ultimately controls the accounting system. I have confidence that it will be much more benevolent under Trump than under the globalists.

Try and separate the technology from human ethics. They are orthogonal concepts. The technology will be implemented for sure. But the human morality component??? Jury is still out on that one...

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