To illustrate how different Cardi and Nicki are. When Nicki was coming up she was working doubles at Red Lobster while grinding as a freestyle rapper keeping her own against male street veterans. Nicki also managed to remain crime and drug free while being around drugs and gang related people. On the other hand, Cardi B was stripping, turning tricks, and slinging dope while coming up. Assaulting men, attempted murder, blackmail, etc.
Cardi B isn't a Nicki clone, she's a cheap imitation given her position precisely because Nicki Minaj wouldn't play the game. "I'm not going to jump on the Donald Trump (hate) bandwagon!
On the images of kids in cages "Something doesn't sit right in my soul"
Followed by "On celebrity apprentice he was funny as hell"
I think she knows as a Trinidadian national she has no business meddling in our elections
That and she's obviously based. Read her lyrics, they're all a deconstruction of rap as a genre. She knows exactly what's wrong with black people, she knows how screwed over the sexual economy is, and her metaphorical dick is bigger than Michelle Obama's real one is. Her biggest market is actually Europe where she's seen as a pop singer (her edm/dance pop songs which are not popular in the US are massive hits in Europe..those swedes and fins love their eurobeat pop)
Nicki is art and Cardi will never touch her. I suggest the entire deluxe for Pink Print and Roman Reloaded if you want to hear her at her best multidimensional self.
I worked my butt off doing construction labor and store deliveries to get into college while listening to Pink Friday and Pink Print on repeat. I didn’t expect to see such a great defense of Nicki Minaj here, but I’m glad I did!
Also felt like the last major era of mainstream hip hop centering around working hard and making yourself. That kind of stuff legit inspired me to work hard as a kid!
Honestly before I read your post just now, I would have lumped them both together as well. I didn't know all that about Nicki M. I had concerns based on some things I've heard of her music that she would not be a good influence. But I will look more closely into it now that someone on this board went to bat for her. And yeah, cardi b is absolutely disgusting. I read that she bragged about taking drunk guys home, screwing them and stealing the contents of their wallets. That's just not something to brag about.
You have to look at the lyrics where she's being serious, and then counterpoint it to the songs where she's playing a character (or multiple characters)
She also makes a point of showing her perspective of working in a truly male dominated industry at the time. Nicki was harassed and criticized for doing the same things male rappers did..it wasn't like with Cardi and Megan where the media is circlejerking them and saying they are feminist icons.
If you can wade past the conventions of the genre, some ego, and some raunch, you'll find there is a very deliberate creativity there and quite the life story being told.
I just searched Nicki Minaj on youtube; having not listened to pop music for more than 30 years, I had no idea what I would find. If "Anaconda" is representative of her "artistry", I don't know how anyone can defend her, that's all I've got to say. And people are saying Cardi B is worse? I don't even want to search that name. American music truly has been dead for many years!
Because sampling and parodying Sir Mix A Lot as an absurdist parody isn't art? HALF THE SONG ISN'T EVEN NICKI, IT'S BABY GOT BACK WHICH AMERICANS, EVEN WHITE CHRISTIAN ONES, DANCE AT WEDDING RECEPTIONS.
Did you miss the part where sarcastically screams in a theatrical voice..
"Yeah, he love this fat ass aha!
Yeah! This one is for my
Bitches with a fat ass in the fucking club
I said, where my fat ass big bitches in the club?
Fuck those skinny bitches!
Fuck those skinny bitches in the club!
I wanna see all the big fat ass
Bitches in the muthafuckin' club
Fuck you if you skinny bitches, what?"
You seriously aren't so dense you believe she's being for real? The whole song is a gigantic joke. And of course, you picked Anaconda. Couldn't hear her singing her heart out on "Grand Piano"...you couldn't even get her being positive and inspirational to young people on "Fly"
Nahhh, you decided to judge her by a freaking parody song
I guess with those lyrics they didn't play it on the radio :) It's a disgusting song, whether parody or not. "Hip Hop" is such a low-class, virtually talentless musical genre, by any standard, that I never catch myself near it. It's amazing how far downhill music has gone in the past 50 years! We thought (those of us over 60) that disco music was bad when it was out in the 70's; hip-hop music makes disco music seem like classical.
Look at some of her lyrics from the point of view as an anon Q believer
"Yo, I had to reinvent, I put the V in vent
I put the heat in vents, man, I been competin' since
I look beyond what people sayin' and I see intent
Then I just sit back and decipher what they really meant
Cherish these nights, cherish these people
Life is a movie, but there'll never be a sequel
And I'm good with that, as long as I'm peaceful
As long as seven years from now, I'm takin' my daughter to preschool
Cherish these days, man, do they go quick"
She's not trash. People aren't trash just because they don't fit your religious world view or moral compass. She's a person who has dreams, who loves her family, who fights for what she believes in. Twerking or playing a character (which Nicki does masterfully) does not make you less worthy as a person.
I sincerely don't believe that viewpoint applies to Cardi because I've read every single one of her lyrics and I could never see how anyone could be uplifted or moved by her. CARDI, MEGAN, and LIZZO are tools of the left to divide and to destroy. Nicki isn't the same as them.
Who the fuck even is Cardi B? She looks like a clone of Nicki Minaj.
To illustrate how different Cardi and Nicki are. When Nicki was coming up she was working doubles at Red Lobster while grinding as a freestyle rapper keeping her own against male street veterans. Nicki also managed to remain crime and drug free while being around drugs and gang related people. On the other hand, Cardi B was stripping, turning tricks, and slinging dope while coming up. Assaulting men, attempted murder, blackmail, etc.
Cardi B isn't a Nicki clone, she's a cheap imitation given her position precisely because Nicki Minaj wouldn't play the game. "I'm not going to jump on the Donald Trump (hate) bandwagon!
On the images of kids in cages "Something doesn't sit right in my soul"
Followed by "On celebrity apprentice he was funny as hell"
I think she knows as a Trinidadian national she has no business meddling in our elections
That and she's obviously based. Read her lyrics, they're all a deconstruction of rap as a genre. She knows exactly what's wrong with black people, she knows how screwed over the sexual economy is, and her metaphorical dick is bigger than Michelle Obama's real one is. Her biggest market is actually Europe where she's seen as a pop singer (her edm/dance pop songs which are not popular in the US are massive hits in Europe..those swedes and fins love their eurobeat pop)
Nicki is art and Cardi will never touch her. I suggest the entire deluxe for Pink Print and Roman Reloaded if you want to hear her at her best multidimensional self.
I have to tip my hat for a quality post.
I worked my butt off doing construction labor and store deliveries to get into college while listening to Pink Friday and Pink Print on repeat. I didn’t expect to see such a great defense of Nicki Minaj here, but I’m glad I did!
Also felt like the last major era of mainstream hip hop centering around working hard and making yourself. That kind of stuff legit inspired me to work hard as a kid!
Never thought I'd find a reply like this either...WWG1WGA really is for real and it's kind of overwhelming
So, you're saying Cardi B is a cheap Chinese knock-off?
NM was so pretty in her high school yearbook Sr. pic that is on the internet. Genuinely pretty!
Never listened to Nicki before, now I guess I will.
Honestly before I read your post just now, I would have lumped them both together as well. I didn't know all that about Nicki M. I had concerns based on some things I've heard of her music that she would not be a good influence. But I will look more closely into it now that someone on this board went to bat for her. And yeah, cardi b is absolutely disgusting. I read that she bragged about taking drunk guys home, screwing them and stealing the contents of their wallets. That's just not something to brag about.
You have to look at the lyrics where she's being serious, and then counterpoint it to the songs where she's playing a character (or multiple characters)
She also makes a point of showing her perspective of working in a truly male dominated industry at the time. Nicki was harassed and criticized for doing the same things male rappers did..it wasn't like with Cardi and Megan where the media is circlejerking them and saying they are feminist icons.
If you can wade past the conventions of the genre, some ego, and some raunch, you'll find there is a very deliberate creativity there and quite the life story being told.
Can you suggest some songs?
nicki minaj twerks on her music video and therefore is not art
I just searched Nicki Minaj on youtube; having not listened to pop music for more than 30 years, I had no idea what I would find. If "Anaconda" is representative of her "artistry", I don't know how anyone can defend her, that's all I've got to say. And people are saying Cardi B is worse? I don't even want to search that name. American music truly has been dead for many years!
Because sampling and parodying Sir Mix A Lot as an absurdist parody isn't art? HALF THE SONG ISN'T EVEN NICKI, IT'S BABY GOT BACK WHICH AMERICANS, EVEN WHITE CHRISTIAN ONES, DANCE AT WEDDING RECEPTIONS.
Did you miss the part where sarcastically screams in a theatrical voice..
"Yeah, he love this fat ass aha! Yeah! This one is for my Bitches with a fat ass in the fucking club I said, where my fat ass big bitches in the club? Fuck those skinny bitches! Fuck those skinny bitches in the club! I wanna see all the big fat ass Bitches in the muthafuckin' club Fuck you if you skinny bitches, what?"
You seriously aren't so dense you believe she's being for real? The whole song is a gigantic joke. And of course, you picked Anaconda. Couldn't hear her singing her heart out on "Grand Piano"...you couldn't even get her being positive and inspirational to young people on "Fly"
Nahhh, you decided to judge her by a freaking parody song
I guess with those lyrics they didn't play it on the radio :) It's a disgusting song, whether parody or not. "Hip Hop" is such a low-class, virtually talentless musical genre, by any standard, that I never catch myself near it. It's amazing how far downhill music has gone in the past 50 years! We thought (those of us over 60) that disco music was bad when it was out in the 70's; hip-hop music makes disco music seem like classical.
Look at some of her lyrics from the point of view as an anon Q believer
"Yo, I had to reinvent, I put the V in vent I put the heat in vents, man, I been competin' since I look beyond what people sayin' and I see intent Then I just sit back and decipher what they really meant Cherish these nights, cherish these people Life is a movie, but there'll never be a sequel And I'm good with that, as long as I'm peaceful As long as seven years from now, I'm takin' my daughter to preschool Cherish these days, man, do they go quick"
She's not trash. People aren't trash just because they don't fit your religious world view or moral compass. She's a person who has dreams, who loves her family, who fights for what she believes in. Twerking or playing a character (which Nicki does masterfully) does not make you less worthy as a person.
I sincerely don't believe that viewpoint applies to Cardi because I've read every single one of her lyrics and I could never see how anyone could be uplifted or moved by her. CARDI, MEGAN, and LIZZO are tools of the left to divide and to destroy. Nicki isn't the same as them.
She's a idiotic degenerate who "sings" about her vagina and ass. Typical garbage from another morally bankrupt section of the entertainment industry.
Who cares???
She is still the most successful artist in blue NY.