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posted 5 years ago by SpeakEasy (context) 5 years ago by SpeakEasy +341 / -0
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– Mcmurdo32 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

If I did take it, it would be the Johnson and Johnson if available. As I understand it, theirs is more traditional, and I haven't caught their guys out advocating for depopulation. Also, the fact that Biden's people seem to be against them indicates that the J and J people at least mean well and aren't out trying to manipulate the world.

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– ElectionPredictor 25 points 5 years ago +25 / -0

There's nothing traditional about it, fren...

Instead of injecting a fatty covered blob containing the gene-altering mRNA instructions, the only difference is the J&J contains a manufactured pseudo-virus, which will attack your cells, and program those cells to activate the same mRNA instructions. It's not very different at all. Certainly not a traditional vaxx in any sense of the word.

Stay away from all COVID vaccines. Take a Vitamin D supplement, 1000% better option. <3

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– ItsaMeMary 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

J and J, traditional as in full of abominable things like aborted fetal cells? J and J willingly sold products that they knew caused cancer, like their BABY powder.

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– sukebandeka 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

It does not contain aborted fetal cells. This is the exact same thing as the "OMG COKE CONTAINS ABORTED FETAL CELLS" rubbish.

In the testing, they use lab created replicated human fetal cell lines. It's an "immortal" cell, that is replicated - the one used in the vaccines is PER.C6. It's from yes - an aborted or miscarried fetus from... 1985 - a collection of cells from a 36-year-long dead fetus.

They replicate the cell-line. The original cells collected act as a blue print for the cell lines in current use.

That absolutely does not mean that the vaccine CONTAINS aborted fetal cells. The cell LINE was used in testing. In a lab setting.

Maybe you object to the fact that a baby died in 1985 or that it was maybe aborted - though no one knows why it was aborted, it was likely a medical reason in 1985 - but the vaccine does.not.contain.aborted.fetal.cells.

The J&J one is an AD26 vector-based vaccine. It has a much safer profile than mRNA ones. mRNA is untested. That is why the J&J one is being slandered so much. There's much to malign with vaccines, however if you want one to be prolific and safely in the community, the J&J one is the best, hands down.

Turn your anger and research towards mRNA vaccines.

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– ItsaMeMary 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

They do contain Human DNA from aborted babies that have been rendered immortal, which is why the cell line is listed in the ingredients in the insert, and they have used many more than just two willingly aborted fetuses in the research of vaccines, and there's other cell lines which contain said aborted babies. Go get your cocktail. Vaccines also contain pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brains, dog kidneys, cow hearts, and so forth. Read an insert, or go ahead and find another study that glorifies vaccines.

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– sukebandeka 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

No.

They actually don't but whatever, keep making this autistic argument. It just makes anti-vaxxers look retarded. I hate vaccines, there are SO many better arguments but this lame "muh religious distaste for abortions" one is the absolute worst one. It's circular and quacks like Deisher make the movement look like dunces.

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– Slyver 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

There are no cells on the listed ingredients for any of the coronavirus vaccines.

Indeed, there are no cells, blood, kidneys, hearts or or any animal DNA or anything remotely close listed as ingredients in any of the coronavirus vaccines. There is also no reason to believe that any of those ingredients are in there and NOT listed. There is no evidence whatsoever to support any of these ideas or beliefs.

Please do independent research before spreading disinformation. Just because its bad, doesn't mean every fear mongering thing ever said about it is true.

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– wisconsheepgirl 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Still fetal cells. Of course it is replicated. How else do you get millions of cells for a line. A child was aborted. The timing of when the children were aborted matters not.

Using anything with at its origin, products from abortion is morally wrong. It is reprehensible. Made worse that you attempt to defend it.

You know. That makes you (if you knowingly and willfully) guilty.

Most importantly, God knows.

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– deleted 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0
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– Suckitreddit 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Thank you. Great explanation of omnipotent stem cell line utilization.

This is actual common useage and science and technology.

Misunderstanding finer points allows all other arguments we have to be dismissed and ridiculed. It’s fine to debate stem cell research purely...but to conflate that argument with the covid injectables makes for a weak argument. We must be a crucible for strong arguments to go forth in the fray.

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– sukebandeka 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Yeah, like people can be anti-stem cell, but I think the most precious gift from "god" or a life or whatever you wish to call it, IS saving the lives of others.

You know... sorta what SkyDaddy did with his only son.

Not that we should go out and abort at will, but if it has to be done, then make the best of it. Don't let it be in vain etc.

People miss the messaging because they're so hyper-focused on X BAD, Y BAD, Z Immoral.

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– ItsaMeMary 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26103708

published on PubMed that has the Conslusion stated as: Vaccines manufactured in human fetal cell lines contain unacceptably high levels of fetal DNA fragment contaminants. It is not secret.

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– sukebandeka 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Ah...

Theresa A Deisher. Ms Deisher isn't exactly a good source. She has an agenda to push and she's never backed up her research.

Again, it's not how the vaccines are manufactured. As much as I dislike vaccines, you're just plain incorrect on this and people like Desisher and those who parrot her BS make the anti-vax movement look like drooling retards because they are trying so hard to confirm their bias they end up tying themselves in knots.

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– Slyver 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Can you provide evidence that the adenovirus vaccines have a safer profile? All I have seen is just less data.

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– sukebandeka 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Compared to mRNA vaccines, they have a safer profile and a proven track record.

There will always be outliers, but most testing cohorts have demonstrated that AD vaccines are acceptable.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41541-020-00243-x - scroll down to :

We have previously shown that vaccines based on transgenes that are delivered by recombinant replication-incompetent adenovirus type 26 vectors (Ad26) have an acceptable safety profile in humans and are able to induce neutralizing and binding antibodies, CD4 and CD8 T cell responses and a Th1-biased immune response in animals and humans22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33. Furthermore, the availability of industrialized and scalable manufacturing processes makes this an attractive platform for vaccine development.

To see the referenced studies for yourself.

I am not pro-vaccine or pro-covid vaccine, but the sheer stupidity on here when it comes to interpreting data and molesting it to become a confirmation bias fuckfest is embarrassing.

The mRNA carrier vaccines are not safe. If the MSM and assholes alike are pushing mRNAs then they are probably not that much of a good idea.

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– Infidel440 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

It’s 99.97% survivable, why on earth would you consider ANY vaccine?

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– Mcmurdo32 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I'm not really. Not considering any of the other issues, I am thinking of this on the level of flu shots, and the only time I got those was when I worked in MRDD residential facilities long ago.

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– Infidel440 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Only time I’ve gotten a flu shot was when forced by the military.

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