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A hidden admission by the CDC that the China Virus was never isolated? (media.greatawakening.win) ? B O O M ! ?
posted 5 years ago by 1Markseeker 5 years ago by 1Markseeker +419 / -0
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– capnobvious 45 points 5 years ago +45 / -0

If the vaccine is using mRNA to coat the main protein of the covid-19 virus (taken directly from pfizer and moderna's site on how the vaccine works) but the covid-19 virus has never been isolated.... where are they getting the protein they are injecting and coding people's cells with?

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– CirclebackGinger 20 points 5 years ago +20 / -0

This!? ☝? I understand nothing about the virus/vaccines except they’re all a crock and I’m not taking any of them. But yes, if they can’t isolate the virus, how are they making ANY vaccine, mRNA or traditional, to fight it? ??‍♀️

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– tiffany46 14 points 5 years ago +14 / -0

The spike protein was man-made. They added it to the virus, and now they want to code our cells to produce it.

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– GetsTheNogginJoggin 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

The EMA leaks showed that they called them out on this, albeit not harshly enough for the matter at hand.

The leaks showed they asked them why, if there are supposedly 320 spike proteins created by this virus, that the one in the Pfizer vaccine most apt to protect against serious illness and prevent transmission. I haven’t seen a response to that to this day.

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– eagledriver 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

capnoobivius/CirlebackGinger...YOU TWO ROCK...I have been researching the exact same thing and HAVE NOTHING ON HOW THE CDC ISOLATED THE COVID STRAIN IN IT'S PUREST FORM...

Thank you!!! ??

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– Sumarongi 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

The vaccine has always been designed to attack human placental cells for the depopulation agenda. They’ve been trying this since the early HIV days. Gallo even ‘grew’ his HIV cultures on human placental cells (with the expectation that a future ‘vaccine’ would attack the placental cells)

When they supposedly found “hiv snippets” and human ‘dna’ snippets in the SARS Cov2 sequence, those are sectional from placental dna that the vaccine is supposed to attack

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– DoMagnum 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

A year or two ago, I would have rolled my eyes and laughed at you.

I'm not laughing now.

Much of the Academic/Medical establishment should be arrested for their crimes against all of humanity.

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– magagama 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Awesome question!

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– ElegantVelociraptor 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Precisely...

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– Fortheloveofapatriot 18 points 5 years ago +18 / -0

So.... if you cannot isolate then it must not exist??

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– notshirley 19 points 5 years ago +19 / -0

This is part of the evidence The Bernician has in his court case for alleged fraud against chief medical officer and secretary of state for health and ferguson who did the modelling..he maintains the WHO would not have issued a pandemic notice but for these people..

https://www.thebernician.net/the-deception-of-virology-vaccines-why-coronavirus-is-not-contagious-2/

lots of videos online germ theory v terrain..

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2021/04/21/isolation-of-sars-cov-2-refuted-in-step-by-step-analysis-of-claim/

he has also applied to the ICC for crimes against humanity and violations of the nuremburg code.

PRESS RELEASE

Wednesday 21st of April 2021

'Request for Investigation' of the UK Government and its advisers, for genocide, crimes against humanity and breaches of the Nuremberg Code, issued to the International Criminal Court at the Hague, on Tuesday 20th of April 2021.

On Tuesday 20th of April 2021 we, the undersigned, issued a 27 -page ‘Request for Investigation’ to the International Criminal Court (ICC) at The Hague, with a view to asking that our allegations of genocide, crimes against humanity and breaches of the Nuremberg Code, by the UK Government and its advisors, be accepted by the ICC and investigated.

We believe that we have provided compelling reasons as to why our Government and its advisers are guilty of the above charges. However, at this stage it is important to note that we are not required to provide all the evidence we have (which would run to several hundred pages) and are limited to a maximum of 30 pages, simply to make an outline case as part of our Request.

The ICC will review our ‘Request for Investigation’ and assess whether they believe there is a reasonable basis to proceed with an investigation into a 'Situation', pursuant to the criteria established by the Rome Statute.

The ICC does not provide a timeline regarding acceptance, nor of course is there any guarantee that they will ultimately accept our 'Request for Investigation' due to a variety of reasons, including the fact that they are limited in their capacity to conduct investigations.

Updates will be provided as and when more information becomes available.

Melinda C. Mayne LPC LLM MBA GDL Kaira S. McCallum JP BSc

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– 1Markseeker [S] 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

Screenshot taken from the CDC 2019-nCoV Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel - Instructions for Use.

Link: https://www.fda.gov/media/134922/download

Page 43

2nd paragraph

Sentence starting with "Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV were available..."

I can try to edit my original picture to make it easier to read or you can just go to the reference yourself with the above link.

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– notshirley 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

none of them have been isolated..its impossible to do it.. CDC wuhan ireland ph england PMs office and other countries admitted under FOI no isolate..

https://www.drrobertyoung.com/post/the-virus-is-a-concept-that-only-exists-on-a-piece-of-paper?utm_campaign=56733393-8d12-

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– scionkia 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

No it isn't an admission the virus has never been isolated - it's an admission that they weren't using an isolated virus sample when developing the test. Which is also an important admission.

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– Sumarongi 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

It’s essentially the same thing. The “only’ way we ‘know’ this virus ‘exists’ is through these tests which were never calibrated to an actual virus sample.

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– Slyver 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

It is not the same thing at all. The PCR test doesn't in any way care about isolating the virus. In fact, a viral isolate would be a hindrance to developing the PCR test, not a boon. The PCR test requires RNA (in the case of an RNA virus like SARS-cov-2). If it was a viral isolate you would have to then lyse the viral bodies, extract the RNA, then create the PCR test for it. Just starting with the RNA (artificially created or pre-extracted) is way easier.

There aren't any detection tests that need an isolate, though in truth there should be, and such a test would probably be pretty accurate. The details of such a test I will not elaborate here, but that would be a test we would have if we really wanted to be testing for the virus. The problems with such a test are that they take a bit of time, and require some infrastructure, though I'm sure it could be streamlined if the desire was there.

These PCR tests, or Ab tests are not the only way we know the virus exists. In truth, a properly done PCR test CAN tell if the virus exists to a reasonable degree, it would just have a lot of false positives/negative. By a lot, I don't mean by the current standards, I mean a few percent (5-10 ish). When you over cycle it though, like the current Covid PCR tests you are probably better off flipping a coin than taking the test, since it isn't a quantitative PRC, but just a test for a positive, and the more you cycle PCR, the more likely you will get a false positive.

Nevertheless, there have been countless labs that have published results of isolation of the virus, with good tests, and lots of electron microscopy pictures, and all the stuff people seem to want, but refuse to admit exists.

Every antibody (Ab) test that is also a positive and done for a non-vaccine recipient is also a fairly good case for proof of the virus. Are they 100%? No, but they are a very strong indication, and any denial of their indication would have to be backed by really good evidence to the contrary. Evidence which I have never seen, and I look daily.

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– Sumarongi 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

They never calibrated the PCR test to the isolate though. That’s the whole problem. They went off a computer model of what the algorithm ’thinks’ the virus should be. In reality it could be anything

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– Slyver 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

That's not a problem. If you assume the virus exists, there is nothing wrong with using the RNA to create the PCR test. These are completely separate issues. In the context of the CDC's statement, there is nothing really damning there.

Please note I am not suggesting the PCR test is good. It is literally the worst test (as it is set up by the protocol, dictated by the WHO) that they could possible do. It is designed to produce false positives.

The problem is one of conflating issues. In this statement by the CDC there is nothing wrong with not having the isolate to create a PCR test, viable or otherwise.

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– Thwok 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Is the PCR test looking for the data/dna that China published early on? If so, how do we know China provided the right data, and not just a mis-mash that would accidentally match quite a few things (especially when run at high cycles)?

Remember that the CCP had the most to gain from a pandemic, and has proven to lie at every step along the way.

Or did the International Community obtain the target data on their own? (Note that the W.H.O. should be considered an extension of the CCP). Or did they re-calibrate the test once the virus was isolated?

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– 1Markseeker [S] 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

“... countless labs that have published results of isolation of the virus...”

Can you post those publications here for us to review?

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– Slyver 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

Here is a google scholar search. You can do a similar search on any science publication website (pubmed, etc.).

Here are some specific examples of labs that have stated they have isolated it. This is a small sample of those available. Two are papers, two are statements. I only looked at one of the papers in detail. As a biologist, I am satisfied that it meets a standard of isolation of the virus within statistical significance. Is it the best possible proof ever? Nope, but it doesn't need to be. If it is to be disputed, it must be disputed in the minutia.

The scholar search above has numerous papers with similar stories. Some better, some worse. I haven't looked at them all because I have yet to see a single counter argument that is credible or seems to have sufficient understanding of experimental biology, or even the scientific process in general.

Emerging Pathogens Institute, University of Florida

NIAID’s Rocky Mountain Laboratories

University of the Western Cape (UWC) and Stellenbosch University (SU) (South Africa)

McMaster’s Institute for Infectious Disease Research

Here are electron microscopy images of the virus.

India's first positive test

Cell culture viral isolate

Pictures at various stages of cell/viral body fusion

A close up

This again is a very small sampling of what's available.

There have been many tests on this virus and its effects. It is much more likely that it is real, than that thousands of scientists are all complicit in an elaborate scheme to make it all up.

I believe the scam was not in the existence of the virus, but in how virulent it was. That is a much easier scam to pull off. All you need to do is:

  1. create a test that produces a lot of false positives (PCR test with too many cycles: Check)
  2. incentivize hospitals to lie (Give each hospital $13,000 for each positive PCR test: Check)
  3. incentivize hospitals to kill people (Give each hospital $39,000 for each person put on a ventilator which will kill them: Check).
  4. Create hysteria in the population by introducing the virus into the vulnerable population and then setting up the treatment (ventilators) that will kill them (Aging population in Italy was the first credible report of massive amounts of death, along with "Wag the Dog" movies from China, Cuomo, Wolf et al putting infected patients into nursing homes, etc.: Check)
  5. Call all other illnesses Covid (Trivally easy with (1) and (2): Check)
  6. Reinforce the fear with social policies. This is especially helpful if there is no proof that those policies work as it creates cognitive dissonance (Mask, social distancing and economic shutdown policies are all complete bullshit: Check)

Six steps and I just created a pandemic.

OR

I convince every biology researcher in the world to make up a fake virus AND do those six steps.

Which one do you think is simpler?

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– Thwok 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Seems like you see the core of the issue. Also seems like there should a whole pile of loose ends for them to tie up :)

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– Slyver 8 points 5 years ago +8 / -0

What this says is that no isolates were available at the time of the rRT-PCR assay study, which was almost certainly the very first thing tested. This report came out only a couple months after we cared about it at all.

The analytical sensitivity of the rRT-PCR assays contained in the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019- nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel were determined in Limit of Detection studies. Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV were available for CDC use at the time the test was developed and this study conducted, assays designed for detection of the 2019-nCoV RNA were tested with characterized stocks of in vitro transcribed full length RNA

That doesn't mean they didn't have it at a later time. It doesn't mean anything really, since while it would be nice for other tests, for the PCR test its completely irrelevant.

While this is a data point of consideration, by itself this is not good evidence of the virus not existing. There are numerous other pieces of evidence that support the conclusion that it does exist and does cause Covid-19.

Please note that me saying these things says nothing about how virulent SARS-cov-2 is. It says nothing about the efficacy of the PCR test. It says nothing about any other aspect of the Covid-19 fraud.

It is substantially easier to exaggerate the truth, than to fabricate the truth.

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– Thwok 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I've been thinking for awhile that the real pandemic was faulty tests (+ media/corrupt health bureaucrats).

Seems like given your premise, it's entirely possible that China gave the world initially incomplete (or just false) data that would assist in driving up the false-positive rate. I'm not familiar with assay studies, but given this assumption, could a PCR test be confirmed which just so happened to identify Influenza in addition to COVID (especially when run at higher cycles)? That is, they transcribed what China told them to look for, which just so happened to catch many things. Or is that not possible with how this stuff works?

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– scionkia 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

Am I missing something: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32511316/

"The first US patient was diagnosed by the State of Washington and the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on January 20, 2020. We isolated virus from nasopharyngeal and oropharyngeal specimens, and characterized the viral sequence, replication properties, and cell culture tropism. We found that the virus replicates to high titer in Vero-CCL81 cells and Vero E6 cells in the absence of trypsin. We also deposited the virus into two virus repositories, making it broadly available to the public health and research communities. We hope that open access to this important reagent will expedite development of medical countermeasures."

There are electron microscope images of the virus that was isolated.

Can someone please tell me what I don't understand? I keep seeing these 'the virus has never been isolated' threads all over the internet - but any basic search shows that it's been isolated (and photographed) many times.

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– Sumarongi 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

You mean computer generated ‘photographs’. Literally could be anything

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– 1Markseeker [S] 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Bingo.

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– Thwok 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

was this the first virus to be patented? if not, what other viruses have been patented?

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– USRifle_Cal30M1 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Thank you for posting that info. I have seen this claim all over this site in the last weeks and your link clears it up perfectly. Why is this claim of it not being isolated being pushed so hard right now?

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– scionkia 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

To make us look stupid and gullible.

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– 1Markseeker [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

The Manual that I posted is dated for effectiveness 12/01/2020

The study you posted is dated March 7th, 2020.

Now, why would the CDC say that it hasn't been isolated if, in fact, it was isolated back in March like your study purports?

Also noteworthy is your article hasn't been peer reviewed yet.

Both assertions can't both be true.

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– scionkia 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

CDC didn’t say it had never been isolated. They said they did not have access to isolated virus at that moment.

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– JonathanE 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Are you certain that date is US format?

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– notshirley 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

their chief epidemiologist in wuhan admitted that covid was never isolated.. see Ben Fulfords geological report about 6 weeks ago.. none of them are ..its impossible to isolate a virus and a virus in any case isnt contagious it doesnt have a digestive system..it isnt 'alive' and cannot exist outside the body.. its all a scam..

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– DeadLivesMatter 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

When it broke out in China initially they were just xraying their lungs and basing it off of that. Chinese are wonderful people (not the CCP) but they don’t need to scare them into being compliant anymore than they already are. That’s why if they did wipe out the population with 500 million left it would be the Chinese since they’re non rebellious nature.

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– Thwok 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Keep in mind China had a "Baby Boomer" problem 10x worse than the US ... so much so that the up-and-coming generation couldn't get jobs, and culturally, the older generation helps support the younger generation until the age of bread-winning shifts to the younger, who then support the older generation in turn.

China was heading for a complete collapse of their system if the older generations didn't die out quickly. Some anecdotal evidence also suggests some Wuhan-area hospitals were triaging based on age rather than any medical testing. Those over a certain line were simply marked to die.

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– DeadLivesMatter 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I no longer believe is scarcity. We could easily have 100 billion living now this problem with more than enough for everyone. Once the truth is revealed. There is no water shortage or food shortage.

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– LawDoc 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

The word "isolated" is a trick word. It doesn't mean what any layperson would think it means. This is true for all "viruses". None have ever been "isolated" because there's no such thing.

See Dr. Kaufman & Dr. Cowan's SOVI (Statement on Viral Isolation) for a simple explanation of the deception -> https://andrewkaufmanmd.com/sovi/

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– Ghosthousand 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I don’t know what any of those words mean, but I trust you

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– MickHigan2 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

huuuwhite! critical think is wrong think!

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– PhDinNY 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

There was a story in our local news (radio station out of Poughkeepsie, NY) that a senior facility in our area had almost half of people who had been vaccinated for covid, come down with covid. What are the odds that story will make it into national news?

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– Adopted-Patriot 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

This document was released July 2020. Page here in reference is 38.

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