I watched the Warroom yesterday with Fincum from AZ on it. He said that there is a hard end date the team needs to be vacated from the Center they are doing the count in. He said end of business on the 13th because they have to be out by the 14th. I missed the month, I'm thinking May but let's assume June because I did hear they had 40 days to finish at one point. Also he said they were going to go to a 20 hour work day from whatever they are doing right now, which looks to be 12 hours as I follow it through out the day. Now, we are in day 5 of the counting and I can tell that the teams are getting faster at their job, they obviously have worked out many of the issues you would expect at start up. That being said, you can see from camera 3 that they are just finishing up the 2nd pallet, which is confirmed by looking at the boxes already counted in camera 2. At this pace they will need about 90 more days of counting to finish the pallets we can see lined up in camera 3. Clearly I'm not the only person seeing this issue here because they have already announced the increased work day. They are going to have to go to 24/7 soon, which means double the workforce, if they have any hope of completing within the timeline specified. I'm wondering if this is some sort of head fake to keep eyes on this facility while other stuff is going on? Everyone is acting like this is for real, and it should be for real, but they aren't getting the job done as it's currently set up. Any ideas along these lines?
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There are absolutely ZERO comms coming from the audit. Anyone telling you any numbers is simple disinformation for whatever reason(s). I can assure you there is a complete radio silence happening since this last ruling by the judge, a complete blackout, that will last 10 days or so, maybe longer.
I'm not talking reported numbers or reports, you can look at the pallets counted and the ones that have yet to be touched (camera 3). You can verify the approximate number of already counted boxes by looking at the pen that holds the ones already counted and returned (camera 2). It's actually a pretty good system as far as accounting goes.
I’ve thought over the whole if they don’t finish “in time” thing and think that they will have found so much fraud that they will either get an extension or the military posts up because shit will have hit the fan.
I imagine 40 days was the safe estimate. It was always going to get done faster.
Cross ref with dates in Europe, Russia of planned vacation/no work days...??
A few thoughts:
The general consensus here seems to be that the audit is either fake (distraction) or they have a process that may not require all the ballots to be audited in order to prove massive fraud. Either of these two scenarios renders my concerns about them auditing all the pallets mute. Thanks for the input, guess we'll all see what happens over the next couple of weeks.
It was probably a phone autocorrect, but in case it's helpful for the future...it's moot instead of mute?
Several weeks ago somebody posted the ASOG scope of work and quote to the Arizona Senate. These are the guys who did Antrim County, Michigan and also had a team of white hat jackets monitoring Arizona during the election.
Their quote was to only hand count like 500,000 ballots. This tells me they were confident they knew where to look and had other technology to prove the election was stolen. Proving it with less than the full amount might create a situation where there is pressure to keep counting past the current deadline.
Remember, it rained for forty days AND forty nights. Audit team better get to work!
They need to be out by May 14th as I hear. IMO, considering I estimated labor for special, one-off projects for a living, that just viewing the pace, it looks as though they need more time, more people or another shift to make the deadline.
Too much loitering and downtime IMO.
May 14th is going to be a pipe dream even at 24/7 unless these folks get their shit in one bag pretty quick. One big issue I see is that it takes too long between the time the table gets done with one box and the start of the next. They all stop, then the box is organized, sealed, signed for, returned to the ballot pen and another one is retrieved. Then they spend another 5-10 mins getting the new box/ballots ready before they start the table audit up again. It's maddening to watch.
OK, try to follow along here with me. They have to complete the audit by the night of the 13th of May, you with me so far? That date is 2 weeks away. They have been auditing for 5 days as of tonight and have only 2 of the pallets counted out of the 50 or so that you can clearly see in the camera.
Now, do you or do you not see a problem here? I'm not mad, nor am I "ignorant", nor do I have an ulterior motive. I'm trying to constructively point out what is going to fast become an unsolvable problem if not acted upon. Plus you have no idea who I am or what jobs I've held in my past nor do you know those of the volunteers, who I'm guessing are being paid by Cyber Ninjas, not that it should matter either way. Why is it that the second someone points out an issue he is considered a bad guy or someone with a bad motive? This is a legit problem if it doesn't get corrected soon. Who are you going to bitch at if they are forced out before this gets done and the audit is rendered null & void?
Why didn't you lead off with that comment?
Bingo....
At almost any time you view ANY camera, at least half the people seem to be doing nothing to move the ball down the court. There appears to be no overall sense of urgency, focus or leadership. I am concerned.
My idea would be to add one more worker to each table, he/she would be responsible for having ballots ready to be counted immediately upon the first box being done and returning the already counted ballots back to the pen. Essentially the interface between the pen and the table but also responsible for organizing each box as it's completed. That would streamline the process and probably save an enormous amount of time. Someone needs to step in an fix whatever the problems are that are resulting in these delays.
I agree. Management needs to step in an make some changes, quickly.
My guess is theatrics. It is a fact, that not everything happening in the audit is on the video feed. I say that, because Cyber Ninjas are auditing and inspecting the voting machines themselves, and we do not see that happening at all.
I do think this audit has already been performed by the military folks and this audit is a means of getting the unearthed evidence on the public record.
What's more, if we only inspect 40% of the ballots, and this gives us some number well in excess of the margin required to flip the election, then our purpose is accomplished.
Thanks for your comment, it has a lot of merit. I was wondering if this was to keep us looking at the counting and not wondering about the machines, which are key to this whole debacle. Not sure how much of the audit they'd have to conduct to be considered representative. Yes, they can easily show 11K ineligible votes but just wondering if that would be accepted if all of the ballots weren't audited?
They only need to confirm 10,457 +1 invalid ballots.