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Holy Cow! No wonder the hotel collapsed. (100percentfedup.com)
posted 4 years ago by Factfiler 4 years ago by Factfiler +22 / -0
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– 1Markseeker 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Pure MSM propaganda. Building's don't "naturally" collapse in onto themselves with little flashes of light discharging on each level as it falls into a nice little pile of finely pulverized material.

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– Retaining_H2O 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

I showed those photos to a civil / structural engineer. He said that, based on the photos only, that it was highly unlikely that small amount of water, concrete cracking and minor rebar deterioration caused the collapse.

Foundation damage like that is a SLOW process, which gets progressively worse over time. It doesn't cause the sudden collapsing and complete demolition of a multi-story building within minutes without having outward signs of the problem showing up months ago, getting worse in the week leading up to the collapse and which would have been readily apparent to everyone.

Nice try. Not buying it.

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– Heckles 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

I knew this was propaganda before I even clicked. Gotta work on your titles, glowstick.

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– Amos 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

The posted article says

According to the husband of a Cassondra “Cassie” Billedeau-Stratton missing from the Champlain Towers collapse, his wife called to tell him the pool caved in and described a massive sinkhole in its place just when the line went dead.

Aerial photos show the ground-level pool of the collapsed building was full of water, not even debris.

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/picture-gallery/news/2021/06/27/champlain-towers-south-condo-collapse-surfside-fl-aerial-photos/5364162001/

That ground-level pool was also not draining from above into the distant gated street-front car entrance as filmed prior to the collapse.

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– deleted 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0
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– CovfefeNegro 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

What is a Trigabyte?

Structures all across America are headed towards a similar fate if we don't stop giving money away to illegals and BLM terrorists, and instead spend it on actual infrastructures.

Remember that new pedestrian bridge designed by the all female firm, which collapsed as soon as it was built? That sort of 'engineering' is gonna kill people. Mob payouts, union payouts, inspectors being bought, favors traded... the corruptions are everywhere.

Over my working career I saw at least a dozen instances of unions sabotaging big projects, had union goons threaten me and actually attack me and my property.

Anyhow, that sort of thing is why you could not pay me to live in such fashion. Years ago a guy who owns many buildings in the Houston area offered me a job maintaining his buildings, over-seeing maintenance operations really, scattered around Houston. The salary was low, he tried to persuade me by bumping it a (little) and offering perks. One perk was a free apartment in one of his buildings, he was shocked when I told him that perk actually weakened his offer, because I would never consider such a horrid thing. I told him if he quadrupled his money and signed an agreement that he would utilize my recommendations and not value-engineer matters then I would consider it.... he refused. They were doing asbestos abatement at the time, he kept flooding his electrical ducts with water, that was shorting his equipment and his tenants were growing tired of the outages, being 5 floors up with no power achieves vacuum. He refused to understand what we were telling him about how to get safely out of his predicament, wanted to cut corners, save time and money.

Can't be done, cows have to eat the cabbage one bite at a time.

It amazes me people buy into those things.

https://files.catbox.moe/d00lrj.jpg

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– Island_Photo 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

What were those flashes on the top floor?

That little pool did not have enough water to wash out the foundation of a condominium building of that size.

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– not_a_sheep 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Just before collapse, from ZH:

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/new-video-shows-surfside-condos-parking-garage-crumbled-collapse

I guess the condo was made to minimum standards.

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– Island_Photo 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

you cant see much in the first video. The second is not that much water...that could be a broken pipe... trust me when I turned the water on in a house that had been winterized I missed a vent plug in a 3/4" copper line. it didn't look a whole lot less that that. a 12-story building probably has 4" water supply lines.

I forget the reason, but when they demo a building there is a smaller charge set off before the column cutters go...

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– not_a_sheep 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

When the demo a building, they also partially cut some columns and such before placing demolition charges, so control the fall. But I'm sure nothing I say will change your mind.

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– Island_Photo 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

so what were the flashes in the upper floors? I am saying that video is not conclusive. But the narrative of the left is pure propaganda.... like skinning a cat there are multiple ways to take down a building, especially if you are doing it without a permit... Do you have a firm idea/position of what happened?

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– not_a_sheep 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

So many days and nobody in Florida is talking about any detection of explosives. Seems to be less and less likely.

I'm not a civil engineer, so I only have opinions, like you or everyone else. But I have read enough to know demolition teams cut things, knock out things, etc before doing those controlled falls.

The surv vid (posted a few days ago) showed the first section to fail was that near the pool. Having lost that section, other sections failed shortly later. The building fell in stages. Building didn't look like it was strongly built.

Explosives in the upper floors does not make sense. Cutting charges are only needed in the basement, and gravity does the rest. Blowing up an upper floor to make the building successively pancake is a very poor strategy, because structural columns are strong. You need to whack the columns at the base where the mass of the building can do much of the work.

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– Island_Photo 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Thanks. I agree explosives high up don't make sense... Having the pool area able to knock out other areas of the building like a keystone sounds like a monumental fail in building design.... Technically that area only carries a fraction of the load that the rest of the parking garage and sub-floors do.

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– Pollycracker 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Inspectors too busy inspecting cell towers to handle the old job of inspecting buildings. The NWO has us surrounded, ducks on a pond.

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– Amos 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Not a hotel.

Note in the photo at the bottom the location of the pool. Now note the location of the parking garage entrance with the debris in it before the tower came down. http://82.221.129.208/poolblewit1.jpg

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– monkeycat2010 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

As a person who lives in a COA (condo association), I can tell you that the board's are commonly made up of idiots. Idiots who have NO relevant business experience. Think about it, useful intelligent business people do not usually have time to fool around with a side hustle of COA board management, so that leaves the retired school teachers, retired bureaucrats, bums who live off an inheritance. or dingy housewives.

They spend money like water on useless resident feel good BS in order to win their elections (just like our current politicians). Primarily because most people are dumb as doorstops.

I had a 2 year fight with my board over their useless spending habits and not putting enough money aside for emergencies. I tell them to forecast expenses, properly budget and strive to put aside as much money for emergencies. They ignore my suggestions, and brand me a meanie because I investigated the President of our board. I find she was sued 4 times over fraud, I publish this information and get kicked off of our facebook page for being mean! MEAN! I thought we were adults. MEAN!

What happens in 2 years, management finds out that our pool deck is about to fall through our 5 story garage. Our reserve study was incomplete and short about $500k. Long story to short ending...we get a sob story from the board saying "we don't have enough money to pay for all this, so here is a bill for $2,000 and a monthly dues increase of $150. Thanks for supporting our community."

Had they done what I had suggested 2 years ago, we would have had the money and noone would have been displaced from their homes (20 units had to go on the market as a result of the increase), which has changed our community dynamic.

COA/HOA are full of idiots and there are no laws to protect residents properly.

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– yudsfpbc 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Unrelated, but the site says they don't tolerate comments with violence.

How can a comment contain violence?

Threats of violence, yes, but not violence.

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– davidw221 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Lots of NY jewish people lived there, they are cheap and didn't want to spend the money on maintenance this condition has been since 1999, the HOA called the shots not to fix things, so folks, who gets the blame?

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– GuyWhite 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

The current proposed assessment is $80,000 per owner.

We left our similarly situated condominium for the never ending assessments. Of course it is four years older, taller, and still standing.

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