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DISCUSSION THREAD: Julian Assange Extradition hearing, press freedom at stake 🔍 Notable
posted 4 years ago by catsfive 4 years ago by catsfive +331 / -0

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/julian-assange-wikileaks-chelsea-manning-high-court-hmp-belmarsh-b950091.html

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– girouxc 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

Only pasting the start of the case here from E.

I think seeing this might show people what's happening, and they can follow as they see fit.

Currently the Assange hearing is underway. There have been repeated issues with the feed cutting out.

Clair Dobbin is presenting the argument for the US, which is attacking the opinion and validity of the medical professionals who diagnosed Julian with autism etc. They would rather the court rely on their own experts and own evidence which somehow finds Assange's suicidal ideation and general innocence barriers notwithstanding their interest in extradition.

It's a matter that has been settled by 2 other judges already.

With regard to the current prosecution argument underway, quoting Kennedy V. Cordia.

The case judgement actually states: “It is for the court to decide whether
expert evidence is needed, when the admissibility of that evidence is challenged.”

However**** The US is failing to illustrate that this information has been argued and settled twice before already.

They are framing it as though there is debate to this issue, by quoting their own experts (who are employed by the government).

There are retreading settled ground here.

The prosecution has just rested after that argument*

Defense is getting ready to quickly rebut*

Defense has just pointed out that the previous judge recognized the fact that the doctor in question (Kopleman) did not reveal Stella and Julian's children in his report, out of noted concern for their safety, but that the judge found his testimony reliable, dispassionate, and sound anyways.

Defense is going into the threats to the basic safety of Assange's family during the time in question, strong evidence of surveillance, plans by the Intelligence Community to steal their baby's nappy to determine paternity etc. Judge Baraitser was aware of this and agreed with Dr. Kopleman's reasoning for not further identifying Stella and the children in his report about Julian's health.

The defense is explaining that the previous judge, who issued the extradition denial, had no qualm with the evidence presented by Dr. Kopleman, including evidence of Assange's suicidal ideation during his continued wrongful imprisonment.

Discussed is an incident with a razor blade found in his cell.

If you are asking, why is the focus on Julian's mental health? Because this is the basis for the extradition denial, until cross appeal can happen at a later date by the defense. So the US Gov is attempting to push the UK court to allow challenges to both Julian's failing health, and the assertions that its prison system is too barbaric and could not effectively keep him alive. Today it is focusing on the testimony of medical professionals, attempting to convince the court (for a third time now) that is has grounds to dismiss those points of denial.

Defense is explaining that the previous judge gave detailed reasoning as to why she found the Defense's expert testimony from Dr. Kopleman absolutely admissible, and understood the reasoning in attempting to protect the identity of Stella and the children.

Judge inquires as to the nature of Dr Kopleman's second report failing to adequately explain the family situation, calls it a double lapse; defense agrees but explains that the family situation had then become common knowledge by that time.

Defense explains that the prosecution cannot really argue against the previous judges ruling as to the substantial risk of suicide etc. Judge Baraitser gave detailed reasoning as to why she agreed with Dr. Kopleman's reasoning. Baraitser understood that Assange's impulses fluctuated according to circumstance and agreed that conditions in US prisons would be enough to trigger suicide given the ASD diagnosis.

Defense points out that the previous judge did not omit from her original decision, the government's opinions here, but that she found fault with them and agreed with the defense. That the judge had carefully considered the criteria the US Gov is attempting to challenge yet again.

"Baraitser's judgement on the potential of suicide is unassailable." (quoting defense here)

Defense calls the mental health diagnosies unarguable.

Defense accepts the deferred identification of Stella and the children by Dr. Kopleman, but again says the court cannot discount all of the evidence around Julian's mental health because of it.

Prosecution interjects claiming they did not know about the children (although the illegal spying operations at the embassy will draw that claim into sharp question)

Judge seems impatient and pushes to set date for full appeal saying it "needs to be heard soon" suggests a couple different periods in October and questions prosecutions availability.

Prosecution says it is unsure of lead availability in suggested dates.

Prosecution says the matter must be sent before the secretary of state, because of potential jurisdictional issues around section 103

https://t.me/TheOfficialE/585

https://t.me/TheOfficialE/586

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– deleted 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0
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– Phishhed44 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Hey THANKS!!! Been wondering about this for a week or more 👍🏽

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– girouxc 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

It will not be broadcasted. However, there will be a small amount of the public allowed in this time, and several reporters, including Amnesty International. This is in stark contrast to the original hearing, in which human rights organizations were banned from observing.

You can also follow these reporters on Twitter, they each have been granted remote access and will be live updating as well:

@rebecca_vincent

@marykostakidis

@kgosztola

@smaurizi

@tareq_haddad

@stellamoris1

The official hashtag to follow on twitter for today is #Freedom4JA

https://t.me/TheOfficialE/581

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– Cabal-Bot 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

This is great- thank you!

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– GetsTheNogginJoggin 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Most of Amnesty’s Board has previous UN experience and questionable connections.

No one is being let into that courtroom without some kind of agenda and/or DS backing.

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– catsfive [M] [S] 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Thank you to the researchers who populated this thread. MVP.

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– girouxc 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

IFJ (International Federation of Journalists) backs calls to drop charges against Julian Assange

International Federation of Journalists: "The criminalization of whistleblowers and investigative journalists has no place in a democracy. Condemning #Assange would not only endanger his life but also fundamental principles of press freedom”

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1425428174805114881?s=20

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– girouxc 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

LIVE from outside of the Royal Courts of Justice in London https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUjSrDTglug

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– girouxc 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

From one of the individuals allowed into the court

"I was one of the few people allowed inside the court in this case against JA. When I entered the court room, JA was shown in a video. I did not recognize him. His hair is very long, he has a beard, his face was partially covered by a mask. But he was wearing very thick rimmed glasses, you couldn't see his eyes. His whole demeanor was such, I just did not recognize him. through out the preceding's he hardly engaged, his eyes were not moving. He looked exhausted. He kept yawning and yawning, and his eyes were not engaging with the camera of what was happening. He was leaning over, he kept his glasses and putting his hand over his mouth every time he yawned. It was very disconcerting. Extremely concerned about his wellbeing. What is going on in Belmarsh Prison. This prosecution is so unjust."

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– 7Nick9 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

​​The Wikileaks founder faces seventeen charges under the Espionage Act, and one under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act in the US. He could get a sentence of 175 years in prison, if convicted. ... That's in the description under the video..seventeen 🤔🤷

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– girouxc 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Jeremy Corbyn is one of the few prominent politicians in the UK with the courage and integrity to speak up for Julian Assange. True leaders do the right thing, even when it's politically difficult for them because they understand truth and justice matter.

Jeremy is with the protestors and gave a small speech talking about the importance of freeing Julian Assange.

https://t.me/assangemediaroom/394

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– Lupinate 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

It is a Shame that Jeremy Corbyn is to the left of lenin really...

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– inspoken 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

It's really not about left or right fren, it's about patriot or traitor. They are doing the right thing so God bless them

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– Lupinate 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

See, in American politics this would be a fair argument. But Corbyn is an odd one. He's the Bernie Sanders of Britain, and is basically reviled by anyone who isn't a dyed in the wool socialist, really. For the British, he and his supporters are as far from patriot as you can get.

To be quite frank, and although a broken clock can tell the time correct twice a day, Corbyn supporting Assange might be a discrediting effort by the cabal....

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– inspoken 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

You have a point fren. They have their plants on both sides of everything. maybe

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– Ssue1216 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

What time?

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– girouxc 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

What exactly is happening:

This is not the cross appeal for defense. This is specifically where the US Gov, as prosecution, attempts to set the points it can appeal, based on points outlined by the UK high courts . A cross appeal by the defense will come at a later date, if the case continues on that far.

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– girouxc 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

BREAKING: U.S. allowed to expand scope of Assange appeal

Today Britain’s High Court granted the U.S. government’s request to expand the scope of its appeal of Julian Assange’s extradition ruling. Assange’s appeal hearing has been scheduled for October 27-28, 2021.

https://dontextraditeassange.com/hearing-coverage/u-s-allowed-to-expand-scope-of-assange-appeal/

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