I don't know if I've missed someone explaining it before, and if I have, I'm sorry. It's been a topic a few of us in my area have been discussing without zeroing in on the answer as we're looking for ways to help others wake up. (Admittedly, I don't know what that says about us.)
Does anyone know why are there people awake versus asleep? Not just recently, but even going backward 60 years. Why isn't everyone affected by the psy ops? Why do we see things and immediately think this is bullshit while others don't see anything wrong at all? Surely it cannot be an IQ thing. Is our skepticism from an automatic distrust in others or institutions? Is it academic from subjects we studied? Is it an independence mindset stemming from a natural desire not to be told what to do and think? Are those who appear to be oblivious to their surroundings and events actually oblivious? Or are they bullshitting us? It's like living in the twilight zone.
mate i honestly think they're just scared. imagine how fucking horrifying it would be realising us crazy conspiracy theorists are right about everything. they'd rather just block this shit out
Ignorance is bliss
Well.. that's what I'm wondering. In our small group, we have definitely seen a change in the looks on people's faces that we've been talking to. We call it the modified deer-in-the-headlights look. But yet they still can't seem to admit what we're saying.
For me it was seeing one blip in the matrix, particularly WTC 7. I tried to convince myself of the official narrative for a while but it didn't sit right. As I examined it further, I realized that accepting the truth about how our leaders are evil was extremely difficult for me to process emotionally. It's like I wanted to block it out and return to normal but couldn't. I distinctly remember having a semi-panic attack just accepting that we have all been lied to. From then on, it was much easier to see lies because I no longer had that emotional pre-programmed shield up.
It's not easy to alter your entire world view, even if there is a hard fact looking you in the face. That is why I think people naturally carry on believing the lies, it requires a very stressful transition.
Thank you for sharing. I've heard similar sentiment from others. The poster above you referenced an idea I need to think more about: how you learned to resolve betrayal as a child. For me, I don't really know why or how, but I knew as a teen that the biggest criminals sought jobs in government so they couldn't be punished because they'd be running the show.
Great example, thank you. I'm going to spend some time thinking about this.
Oh my goodness, what an amazing example. I was definitely category 3. Got into an argument with MIL on how I would not lie to my kids about Santa. She became a whole different person over it calling me a selfish Grinch who would deny my children the happiness of Christmas. I guess she would fall into category 1.
I think it is whether or not a person questions "experts" or believes them implicitly. The idea of credentials is, I believe, the main force behind the brainwashing that has occurred for millennia, and really ramped up over the last century or so in an ever increasingly dependent society. We are, from birth to death, told to "respect our elders", or "trust the experts", or "listen to your teacher", or "listen to your mother".
This "trust the experts" mantra permeates our entire social existence. All that credentials or experience gives to a person is the capability to create and present better arguments or present better rebuttals in a debate. It doesn't give ANY weight to the argument itself. For example; a skilled journalist, interviewing various people with biology lab experience, and being discerning about the information they gather could present exactly the same argument (word for word, data for data) as a MD PhD on some topic in their area of study. But we would naturally weigh the MD PhD's argument above the journalist because they have more letters on their name; FOR THE EXACT SAME ARGUMENT!
In almost every case we assign our critical thinking skills over to others when their argument becomes confusing or complex. It is easier to rely on their expertise than really dig into parts we don't quite understand, or don't have the experience ourselves to analyze sufficiently. It is this assignment of critical thinking over to others, this trust in others experiences, that devolves what should be a debate into a lecture, which then leads to so many being asleep (who doesn't fall asleep during lectures!).
Ongoing debate and continual presentations of new evidence, the critical thinking of many brains with "eyes on" keeps us alive. Yet so many of our clichés are about not debating; so many of our teachings are about using emotion and a reliance on others instead of using our own critical thinking.
I think the reason some are more awake than others has to do with a persons propensity to not "listen to our mother" (without question).
Is this a learned or genetic behavior? I have no idea, probably both, but I think it is this key quality that causes the difference between the two populations.
Your answer is brilliant. Please don't be offended, but I'm stealing it.
This isn't a writing assignment for class. This is a debate among critical thinkers and a dissemination of knowledge gained in those debates in an effort to save the human race from eternal slavery. Plagiarizing is essential for this task. That's what makes meme's so powerful.
Thank you.
There are alphas and there are betas
For sure.
Thanks for posting. I can feel it too.
I second that, thanks for bring it up. The vibrational frequencies are a BIG DEAL. I prayed about how I can serve God, and the answer that came into my head, almost immediately, was to "raise your vibrations." This was back in 2012, and I didn't know what that meant. After time I did research on this, and found that the enemy lives in lower vibrations: anger, jealousy, fear, anxiety, hate---all these are low-frequency vibrations which quite literally "feeds the beast". Love, happiness, forgiveness, calm, empathy/compassion, etc, are all high-frequency vibrations. There is so much value to what you say re: vibrations/frequency. Those who are aware of this I would assume to be stepping out of the "matrix" so to speak....those trapped in lower frequencies are trapped in a perpetual cycle of anxiety, stress, etc, and I think that's what we are seeing with the mask'd and vaxx'd, anti-Trumpers. They live in lower frequencies and I can see the panic/fear in their eyes. They are controlled, we are free.
I believe it is a combination of genetic-predisposition, environmental factors and upbringing during adolescence.
Whites tend to be more independently minded and suspicious of big government. Whites founded western civilization and free market capitalism and have an innate tendency to rebel against authoritative figures. Asians, even with the highest IQ rates in the world, are one of the most submissive groups to higher authority. IQ is important, but not as important as suspicion of authority.
Environmental factors play a strong role in the cognitive ability of children. Fluoride in the water/toothpaste lowers IQ in children and psychologically alters behavior. Couple that with chemicals in the food and the high amount of vaccines our children are exposed to and you have astronomical rates of autism and developmental disorders that were nonexistent 60 years ago.
The education system has been hijacked by enemies of America. Children are being taught what to think and not how to think. The push to get mothers into the workforce during the 80's forced a generation of children into daycare. The younger a child can be conditioned, the higher chance that conditioning has of success.
The globalists have been infiltrating every facet of society for a long time and now they are seeing the payoff of that long game. Half of our country has taken the experimental vax. Half of of country is willing to trade their freedoms for safety. If America falls, the world follows. This has been the plan all along. Militarily, our country is unstoppable and that is why they must use this unconventional warfare to defeat us.
Another brilliant response. I'm stealing this analysis too. I hadn't thought about being suspicious of big gov, or the daycare angle. Thank you.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2
"Is it an independence mindset stemming from a natural desire not to be told what to do and think?" I believe this is a big part of it.
"Are those who appear to be oblivious to their surroundings and events actually oblivious?" I know a very intelligent and seemingly very sensible man (worked with him for 10 years). We kind of buddied up for lunches and discussed many things. Invariably after I'd offered my insight on something, he'd respond 'that's too deep for me'. I came to the conclusion that he's just skimming along on the surface of life and not making any effort to understand how life works, why people do what they do, and why things are the way they are. I was recently very surprised to discover he has TDS, voted for Biden and has become a Karen about masks and jabs, including badgering people on his FB page about them. He seems oblivious to anything other than what the MSM is feeding him, which is fear.
"Or are they bullshitting us?" The PTB are bullshitting us. The minions are afraid, and they're blocking any information that goes against what they believe because if they're wrong that means they allowed themselves to be duped, and they just can't or don't want to believe they'd do that to themselves.
What a shame about your former coworker. You zeroed in on another problem too. Why this group of people care about being wrong puzzles me. No one is right 24/7. I don't know what the big deal is. Questioning is how you learn.
For many It's an ego issue. Ego never wants to be wrong, so it tunes out anything that would make it wrong and fills one's head with all the reasons one is right. The process of gaining wisdom includes learning to manage one's ego such that it shuts up. Then one can gain the self awareness and understanding to realize that being wrong is no big deal. The alternative is to keep doing what one's been doing and go through life repeating the same mistakes, a level of wisdom that is beyond ego's comprehension.
I can't tell you how many times I've laughed at my own stupidity, and then moved on to learning what to do better.
For me, something clicked spiritually around 2011-2014. I was into researching the govt before, but not like this. I found a GREAT bible-led church, and coming from Catholicism, it was very eye-opening. I learned how to read the bible, attended bible studies. I also started experiencing pretty severe health issues, which lead me to alternative treatments. Started watching Alex Jones around the time he was on Piers' talking about our 2A rights and was acting so passionate about 1776, which lead me to find out what he was about. Even though he's most likely a PAYtriot mossad - funded agent, I learned so much from him. I discovered fluoride is poison and calcifies the pineal glad, so I stopped using fluoridated toothpaste/water. I started seeing a naturopathic dr. I started using cannabis for my medical ailments in 2014, experienced the miracles of natural treatments, and then there was Trump, then Q. I escaped university brainwashing somehow, wasn't able to complete my PhD because I was a whistleblower exposing the use of govt funded professors organizing on campus to protest our president at that time. Can't use tax-payer $$ in this way...so I've always had a passion for truth and research, which made me a natural autist anon. Q solidified it for me. I'm also a military vet, and many who have served have witnessed firsthand the atrocities we are learning about on a daily basis. So for me, it's my natural propensity for truth and research, a spiritual awakening, researching what is happening with our food/water/air/medicine poisonings, and Q.
Thanks for sharing, and serving, and having the guts to stand up.
Hey man, do you have any tips as to how to reduce to fluoride intake, especially through drinking water? I already use self-made fluoride-free toothpaste
Get yourself a fluoride water filter. There are pitchers like Epic Pure brand. If you can afford it, you should invest in one for your entire house because your skin absorbs some of it when you bathe/shower. Another way to avoid fluoride in your water is if you live in the country and have a well.
Thanks a lot fren
We use RO filters and a water distiller. And great job on the toothpaste change! We are also in the process of getting filters for our sinks/shower, as the skin is the largest organ on the body.
Thank you very much! In the end I just picture a world where all of this isn't needed.. I wish you and your family the best of health
That is EXACTLY the question that makes me interested in hanging out here.
hey if you don't believe all this Q stuff what's your interpretation on what's going on in the world?
Honestly? I think literally everything has been predictable by accepting that Trump is a man who lies narcissistically. There's not really a diplomatic way of saying that, so I'm just saying it outright.
The vaccines make sense if you accept that Trump downplayed the virus because he didn't know how to handle it and was looking bad right before an election. Then he did Warp Speed and how wants credit for the vaccine because it makes him look good. He's said on tape that he downplayed the virus and that it was dangerous.
The election fraud claims aren't going anywhere because Trump has never had a case, and just doesn't want to look like he lost. He knew he could lose, and seeded the idea that the only way it was possible is voter fraud, so that when he did lose, he didn't look like he lost to the people who admired him. And hence, you guys don't believe he legitimately lost.
The Deep State, Cabal, or whatever you call them doesn't exist in the form that Trump claims. He just uses them as a scapegoat any time he fails at anything. Why is Clinton not in jail like he promised? Deep State. Why did the SCOTUS picks "betray" him? Deep State, not because his case was garbage. Why did his own DOJ not seem to be on board with his theories? Deep State, not because he was talking out of his ass to protect his image.
He lies to ensure he doesn't look like he fails. That's my interpretation of the world right now. And with that assumption, literally the only time Trump has surprised me was when he told people to stand down on Jan 6th. I honestly thought he'd let them give the insurrection a real college try.
I believe there are rich criminals, and some of them talk to each other. Maybe even a Cabal of some sort. But I don't think they were ever out to get Trump. If anything, they'd love to have someone like Trump out there, because again, Trump is predictable. He'll do exactly what he needs to do to protect his image as a strong man and strategic genius. That's easy to exploit. I think Trump is literally the type of person you guys would want to be targeting, not defending. Trump exemplifies the problem of a rich, criminal Cabal. He's literally the last person that would be qualified to fight them.
And I think Q is basically a fan fiction written about Trump's scapegoat version of the Cabal. I don't think Q is anyone other than an internet troll who enjoyed his fame for a while, and then stopped posting when he realized that there'd be an insurrection at his house if he was revealed to be a nobody.
I could be 100% wrong. And I lose nothing by waiting to see if I am.
But so far, I've had a pretty good track record at predicting things that are going to happen in Trump world based on believing this about Trump. Q people have had a pretty rough time predicting how things are going to play out by accepting Q and Trump's version of reality.
They can't explain vaccines. Failures and flops are designated as deliberate misinformation to confuse the Deep State or optics. People you guys used to cherish are now enemies and traitors. The fact that the military doesn't appear to be mobilizing against the government is reinterpreted to say that the military is moving VERY secretly and VERY precisely to avoid detection.
So until I find it harder to predict the world by believing Trump is a liar than I do by believing literally everyone except Trump is a liar, then I'm going to stick with the reality that is easier to predict. Predicting the future is literally the point of logic and science, and I can't do that with Q beliefs as things stand.
Appreciate your posts but you need to do more research into Q, not the Qanon conspiracy theory. Q and the Trump administration are undoubtedly connected.
I understand why you believe that better than I get credit for.
I think that you guys typically assume that if I don't agree with you, it's because I haven't see all the evidence or are not understanding the connections you want me to make.
It certainly makes your argument stronger to you if you believe the only possible way to disagree with the argument is to not understand it. It would be harmful to your idea of a "Great Awakening" if an intelligent someone actually DOES understand and read your evidence, and disagrees with it anyway.
I believe I'm that person. I think there are a LOT of such intelligent people who review your stuff and don't find it compelling.
As I've said before, the single greatest leap forward for the Q movement would be unmasking Q and proving he's someone important enough to make the claims that he does.
Because right now, most of us don't think that Q is a psyop by the Deep State. We think he's just a 20-something year old nobody on a chan who got the better of you guys. That's it.
If you can prove he's not a nobody, then you'll COMPEL people to give his evidence more credit. Because nobody feels compelled to read the theories of someone who is probably a nobody, especially given the social costs that Q beliefs typically demand of its adherents right now.
Q can save the movement and jump-start the Great Awakening RIGHT NOW by coming forth and proving he's a military intelligence guy. Someone with the credentials to know the things he claims to know. There's no way to get through to most people until Q's identity is proven to be legitimately who he claims to be.
You are free to believe any theory you want. For the moment, this is still a free country and the thought police have not completely made that illegal. But you will eventually have to accept that election fraud is real unless you lie to yourself. Once you do that, you have to ask how is it that ALL of these media outlets can be in denial? How is it that all the courts rejected these cases over procedural standing? Because it was obvious to everyone paying attention on election night. And that is the point at which you can no longer deny the truth of what Q was saying. The only question then becomes, what is the actual plan to deal with it? None of us know that yet, but it is revealing itself slowly as this all plays out.
Trump may be a narcisist, but he is not now, nor has ever been, a liar. That is one place where your argument fails miserably. That is mere projection by the left of their own character failures onto Trump. Projection of their own failures is a common tactic of the deep state, and one which you would do well to start recognizing. Trump is extremely careful in his speech. If you think he is lying, I suggest you try and look at what he is saying from a different perspective.
I mean, I don't really have to prove it one way or the other.
Either the Q plan comes true and Trump is reinstated before 2024, or it doesn't. That's the nice thing about Q. It comes with a built-in falsifiable deadline, even if nobody agrees when it is.
I do think Trump is a liar. I also think it's the more parsimonious explanation for why the world looks the way it does. The vaccines make sense. Pence makes sense. Barr makes sense.
Science and logic exist to help things make sense and become predictable. The world has not been predictable through Q's lens, but it is through the "Trump lies" lens.
But, if I'm wrong, I will absolutely find out soon. Because if NCSWIC, and that wasn't a lie, then it's inevitable.
Yes, I am also that person, and have the exact same opinion. Your previous two comments characterize my thoughts on this whole thing and I appreciate you being so eloquent in articulating yourself.
Fair assessment I think, and it is a logical argument. I'm still in the Q camp because of the solid q proofs I've seen, but to each's own.
We understand you don't believe the legitimacy of Q, this is about in general awake vs brainwashed. Or why there are those of us that question/are skeptical of everything while others believe the popular narrative.
We have been chosen!
Not everyone is susceptible to the propaganda and subliminal conditioning.
Not sure as to why. Are the brainwashing methods flawed? Does it have to do with individual upbringing? IQ? Divine/fated paths?
Ive seen lots of spitballing as to why over the past few years but no concrete conclusions drawn.
In any event, here we are. I too am very interested in this subject as I've witnessed people Ive known my whole life end up on the brainwashed side and for most of them, it was around the same time: 2014-2016. All were moderate politically. Most leaning slightly left or right of center, actually many were libertarian in their beliefs of "live and let live" and smaller govt. Age group 30-45.
Whatever mass societal conditioning tactic that was implemented during that time frame, it roped a good chunk of the population into it. The only parallels I've been able to notice between the various people I know personally are they all became heavy/constant streaming service addicts during the same time frame.
It is my theory that while propaganda and subliminal messaging exist in all forms of media, services such as Netflix were broadly effective in their application of said conditioning. Couple this with other forms of conditioning and reinforcement via social media and you've got a whole bunch of group think volunteers who had no idea they were even being conditioned in the first place...
Excellent point, I cut off cable in 2013. So thankful as I also believe it's part of why we are awake, escaped the brainwashing somewhat...
I like your theory, and I suspect you're over the target. I need to spend some time thinking about it.
I've always had a strong gut feeling. Its has saved my life a couple of times and tens of thousands of dollars haha.
I dont know if it breed in me or practiced, But I'm damn sure glad it here.
Dad and pawpaw always said we had a curse on our name maybe they were getting me ready for how the world really is.
Excellent post. These questions inevitably boil down to two options in my mind: either,
A.) Trump lied to protect his image.
Or
B.) The voters can't be trusted, the poll workers can't be trusted, the voting machines can't be trusted, the media can't be trusted, all politicians can't be trusted, the guy who is charge of election security can't be trusted, the lower courts can't be trusted, the appellate courts can't be trusted, the Supreme Court can't be trusted, medical physicians can't be trusted, your own family members can't be trusted, etc..
I'm inclined to go with "A", simply because it's a more stable way of understanding the events of the past and future. I'm aware that this is considered a controversial opinion here.
Thank you for posting. I'm going with B and here's why: to determine truth you can't give anyone a pass. No one should be beyond examining or questioning. All those positions are filled by people, and all people are liars at some point in time for whatever reason served them at the time.
Here are a couple of examples:
I can go on, but you get the point. All people lie. People lie for little reasons. Some lie for no reason. Now put those people in a position with something to lose?
I agree, which is exactly why I don't give Trump a pass as well, he had a lot to lose beyond his own reputation.
Thank you for your reply though.