He's been advertising for months that he has these PCAPS and he was going to show them to us this week. If you really had absolute proof of a crime, would you advertise that you had them before they were made public? I think not. Perhaps what he has is not PCAPS but something completely different and he's been sending blackhats on a wild goose chase for months looking for PCAPS.
Perhaps the data that he showed us with the before and after server images are the goods we should be focusing on. He has an elected county official that stands by them and is a witness to the coverup. What if those images are enough to prove that fraud occurred? Maybe CO will be the first state to decertify their election. That would be a hoot.
Tina Peters is a hero. She was not afraid, she knows she's right and she was fearless.
I don't doubt that they have something, but I think that they have intentionally mislead us about what it is exactly that they have. Disinformation is a key tactic in an information war.
^^...that
Plus Dr Frank's revelation that numerous counties have already allowed him to examine their systems, and all were found to be running a weighted algorithm based on a 2010 census.
And TPTB will do ANYTHING to protect their vote trafficking ( and as we know all their other mafioso trafficking) operations. New Mexico guy MADE THAT so clear yesterday. Pertains to posts about why they like to work with cartels and ms13. It's all one big transnational criminal cartel as Bannon always says. Going down? Sting.
I tend to agree with this.
But I dont think this is the final goods. This is definitely sufficient for the legislators to make a case that forensic audits are needed in their local areas.
However, I think he has evidence that shows exactly how the votes were manipulated. He wouldnt be pulling those numbers (Big Lie vs The Truth) out of thin air. That data, whatever it may be - PCAP or something else, I believe was collected by the military/NSA/Q as part of this sting operation. He wont be revealing its source until the right moment.
I agree that this image from Mesa is not the final goods. But I believe that we should be focusing on those images rather than bemoaning that we didn't get PCAPs. That was the point I was trying to make but perhaps not very well :)
The fact that one county clerk has come forward is a big deal, I doubt she is the only one.
I see your point now, and I agree with it!
By now we should be smart enough to know that everything we see has an element of disinformation for the benefit of [DS] and hence we shouldnt get disappointed for not getting what was “promised”.
Honestly I was very down today, and even started making a post about how it did not deliver on the promise, but I stepped away for something and when I came back, no longer felt so down - as I was thinking about the whole picture.
Like I have said since Rudy's hearings, how much evidence does a person need?
Dr Frank was interviewed on Saturday, 08/07/21 / on Exposure w/ Marcus Dee.
Link to interview and partial transcript below. The whole thing is interesting but ... two transcripts and links (no time stamp). 1st transcript is for 04:45 - 09:15... the second transcript further down is for 37:34 to 38:34.
https://exposure.locals.com/post/930772/interview-w-dr-frank
04:45 - 09:15
Begin transcript:
Dr. Frank: There are tens of thousands of phantom voters in some... in just one or your counties. Just, there are lots of them. So the next step then, to prove it to the them, to your county people, is to find the phantom voters. And that's why we need our super moms.
But then, here is where it gets fun. So, in other words, I've got the mathematics that shows that the fraud was operating, and we've got the phantom voters, you find the actual phantom voters, you do the forensics audits that you guys just called for today, where you show all the problems in the machines that were doing things they weren't supposed to be doing and how they connect to the internet, and all that.
And now, next week is the Cyber Symposium. And the Cyber Symposium is gonna be in South Dakota. And that's where Mr. Lindell is gonna release 37 terabytes of recordings, they're called P-Caps, the recordings of that internet traffic.
So imagine there was a bank robbery, right. And you walk in and Dr. Frank says, "I've run the calculation and there's 10 million dollars missing. Because I did the math, right? And then the super moms go out and pound the pavement and they find all the dollar bills out in the community, right? So that's like finding the shadow voters. And somebody does a forensic audit and they notice the fingerprints on the dollar bills or something. They trace them by serial number back to the bank or something.
And then somebody comes up with a video camera of the actual robbery taking place. There's... it's like you have the whole picture, right? So that's what P-Caps are. The P-Caps are like that. That capstone that shows you the recording, show you all this hacking taking place in real time.
Marcus Dee: Where... You've been working hand-in-hand with Mike Lindell, correct?
Dr. Frank: Oh yeah. Since March.
Marcus Dee: Where is he getting this information from? Can you divulge that?
Dr. Frank: I'm not allowed to say yet, but next week that will begin to be divulged. Part of the problem with it... when you think about it, its illegal to hack elections.
Marcus Dee: Who'da thought!
Dr. Frank: Who'da thought! Yeah! Exactly. And so you've got all these people doing illegal things, hacking the election. But there were white hat hackers that were also hacking elections and recording. I mean think about it. Two years before the election...
Marcus Dee: Through who? Through NSA? Through Space Force? Through FBI? Through you can't tell me? O.K.. I understand. I understand.
Dr. Frank: So, how about this? Just use logic. O.K.. So, Trump, an amazing President. He did lots of things during his administration, right? One of the things he did, he started a whole new branch of the military. And he hand picked all the leaders for that. What was that called?
Marcus Dee: I believe that was the Space Force.
Dr. Frank: Yes! Yeah. And you are on the internet, right?
Marcus Dee: From time to time.
Dr. Frank: Yeah. And how does the internet work.? I mean where do all the communications go? I mean, do they go over the phone lines? No. It goes over the internet.
Marcus Dee: Some of it goes to Tennessee.
Dr. Frank: Yeah. Some go up to satellites and some go all around the world, right? So, if you were going to try and record elections, where would be the perfect place to do it? Hmmm. I don't know. Just think... I mean its just logic, right? I mean, I'm not telling you anything. I'm just asking questions.
Marcus Dee: Are you, without divulging any behind the scenes, are you privy to any of the information that happened out of Tennessee all those weeks ago, when there was the explosion?
Dr. Frank: No! I'm not privy to any of that.
Marcus Dee: O.K., O.K..
Dr. Frank: Yeah, yeah. Its because, uh, we're careful, and, you know its interesting, because almost everybody that works with us is military people. And they're really good at this. They've taught me this. I'm a scientist. I'm use to using, I'm use to working openly and using open sources with everybody. But everything with these guys is, um, it has a military flavor to it. Because, like the attorneys and my colleagues, they're really military trained. And they work under need to know. So they will say, "Here's what you need to know, Doug, go work it out." You know, they don't tell me much more. And that's a good thing. Its good from a scientific control point, too. Because then I'm not pre-biased by anything.
Marcus Dee: Yeah, yeah. You said earlier that you've been working hand-in-hand with and have had conversations with both Mike Lindell and President Trump.
Dr. Frank: All the time...
Marcus Dee: (talking over Dr. Frank) What have been the conversations?
Dr. Frank: ...with Mr. Lindell. Yeah.
Marcus Dee: Have you had any conversations with President Trump?
Dr. Frank: Yeah. I don't speak. I listen.
Marcus Dee: Where... how often do you meet with them?
Dr. Frank: With Lindell?
Marcus Dee: No. With President Trump.
Dr. Frank: I don't meet with him in person. I'm well, I was his keynote speaker in Wellington, though. So, you know, if you call that meeting him.
Marcus Dee: Have you met him in person?
Dr. Frank: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, but, its not, its not like I got to sit down and have dinner with him. It was quick, where with Mr. Lindell, we'll talk on the phone for an hour, you know. So, that's different.
End transcript.
There is another part that was kinda interesting:
Dr. Frank / 8/7/2021 / Interview on EXPOSURE w/ Marcus Dee/ 37:34 to 38:34
https://exposure.locals.com/post/930772/interview-w-dr-frank
Begin transcript:
"O.K.. So what the Cyber symposium is, that's when Mr. Lindell has invited cyber experts from around the world to come and analyze these 50 (corrects to) 37 terabytes of recordings of the election taking place.Its from November 2nd to November 6th. Recordings, hackings into 3009 of our counties in the United States. Maybe more but that's as many as we've found so far. There's only 3,145 counties in the country. So, that's 96% of our counties have been hacked."
End transcript:
Recommend listening to the whole interview... there are more tidbits. Dr. Frank can be a bit of a tease.
And then there was this with Dr. Shiva on War Room at the end of the day at the symposium...
https://americasvoice.news/playlists/the-war-room/ (Episode 1167/1168 Part 2)
After you click on the link scroll down until you see the two frames with Dr. Shiva, right now the episode you want is the one on the far left .
Dr. Shiva starts to explain the weirdness about Lindell's P-Cap state hacked/not hacked vote totals at 09:15 into the episode
"In their travels, Arthur comes to learn that the Earth was actually a giant supercomputer, created by another supercomputer, Deep Thought. Deep Thought had been built by its creators to give the answer to the "Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything", which, after eons of calculations, was given simply as "42". Deep Thought was then instructed to design the Earth supercomputer to determine what the Question actually is. The Earth was subsequently destroyed by the Vogons moments before its calculations were completed, and Arthur becomes the target of the descendants of the Deep Thought creators, believing his mind must hold the Question. With his friends' help, Arthur escapes and they decide to have lunch at The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, before embarking on further adventures. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hitchhiker%27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy
I'm getting a funny Grover's Mill feeling about all of this.
It was another trap, and Colorado fell for it.
Uhm, no. The PCAP's were at the event. They're highly technical. You're welcome to capture the data from the videos he had running of the hexadecimal. The experts on-site are the ones who got to really analyze the data hands-on. The fact no one claimed the $5 million is the proof that Mike's data is legit.
https://nitter.net/ErrataRob/status/1425987272894255106#m
This technical Libertarian attended the even and explains that the pcaps were not delivered. The explanation given is that Dennis Montgomery was the source of the pcaps and was part of Mike’s team, but he missed the event at the last minute because of health issues. Then throw in the Larry Johnson article in TGP and it gets really messy.
tl;dr: The nitter guy is a bad actor trying to discredit Mike. He talks a good game, but he exposes himself. Further, to someone qualified in such tech, it is pretty clear that this guy is full of you know what and likely not competent to perform the analysis he claimed to attempt. I intended to thoroughly dissect his thread, but I eventually lost patience with it and consider a full analysis to be a total waste of time. Thanks for linking it, though. I like to consider as much as I can of whatever versions of the truth are floating around.
Your nitter guy said, "FYI: nobody is going to win the $5 million. It's impossible to disprove election fraud. It's only possible to demonstrate that claimed evidence fails to prove it." This demonstrates that he did not even know what the requirements to claim the prize money were. Specifically, the money was for anyone who could prove that the PCAP's were not from the 2020 election. There could be fraud or no fraud and yet the PCAP's be legitimately from the 2020 election or not. Those two propositions are not related. (Update: He admits he got the rules wrong in post 10.)
He also said, "8/ Here’s a pic looking backwards. Btw, I’ll be the guy wearing a mask, because as you know I’m an internet troll and this is the sort of thing I do." This may be nothing, but I think I remember Mike identifying one of the bad actor infiltrators as being "the guy in the mask" or similar. Idk...
Further, "9/ Before this week, the things Mike Lindell posted were not recognizable as "packet-captures". This is what they normally look like. It's not required to look like this, but it's the level of detail I'll be getting into." The image he shows, to the bottom left, is hexadecimal -- EXACTLY LIKE WHAT MIKE LINDELL HAD POSTED.
"12/ Everyone is friendly and nice. Which is what I expected. We like to demonize our opponents, but really, they are almost always reasonable, kind hearted people -- even if in our own opinion they are wrong. On both sides." Curious that he identifies attendees as Mike's event as "our opponents", don't you think?
"17/ they have scrolling hexdumps. For one thing they scroll too fast to read, and for another, they are too blurry to read, and lastly, even experts can’t generally read hexdumps without decoders." I can read the hex from the image he posted of the screens at the event. If he is actually there as an authorized, credentialed cyber expert, there is a separate area where he accesses the PCAP's. The screens are more for show. You could pull data from the screens, but he is correct that it would be very inefficient.
"18/ The reason why the question “what’s the source of data” is so important is because we know that media reports of vote tallies where highly inaccurate, the media made lots of accidental mistakes." This is a lie. I'm increasingly convinced this guy is a bad actor, and I don't trust him at all. The media reported numbers are from the Edison reporting system that is plugged into the official voting system. When votes flipped on live TV, that is because they were being flipped in the machines. It is not "accidental mistakes" on the part of the media.
"20/ "they work for LeadStories? fact checkers? shame on them!!! .... they are the enemies of the people"
"That's me!!! That's me!!!! I'm not feeling ashamed, though." And he straight up admits he is a bad actor, dishonest, lying piece of excrement!
"28/ So what they gave us were these "HEX.txt" files, which when decoded (
xxd -r -p filename) produces .rtf files. One of the RTF files contains a table of IP address, the others contain something in an unknown character set." That "unknown character set" is most likely because this clown is in over his head and not properly interpreting the data."31/ The delay is explained by a bunch of things going wrong, such as the guy who was a source of data getting a stroke." After several attempts to deflect from his own incompetence and blame it on the event coordinators, he said the previous. This claim of his comes from a debunked fakenews propaganda article from the Wastington Times. At the very end of that same article is a retraction and a quote from Mike's attorney that the alleged source and claims are completely bullshit.
"34/ So I got some straight answers from Spider:
Here is what you'll find way down at the bottom of that article after you click to read more (it looks like you've finished already -- by design!): "Kurt Olsen, a lawyer on Mr. Lindell’s team said there were multiple sources of the data that Mr. Lindell claims to have, and did not confirm that Mr. Mongtomery was the source of the data. He also clarified that the $5 million challenge has not been canceled and that Mr. Merritt would not be privy to that information."
"Clarification: The article previously described Mr. Merritt as Lindell’s lead cyber expert. Mr. Merritt is a cyber expert on the red team hired by Mr. Lindell to interrogate the data for the symposium, and does not work directly for Mr. Lindell."
And I can't be bothered to waste any more of my time reading this disinfo agent's horse shit analysis. I'm sorry you wasted your time. The guy is clearly only interested in sewing misinformation about Mike's data. He's probably one of the infiltrators, like a CIA asset. This is to be expected regarding highly technical claims. It is too easy for ass holes like this clown to sound like he knows what he's talking about to laypeople while completely misrepresenting reality. To a trained observer, his grift is pretty transparent, but not many people understand technology well enough to see through his lies.
The bottom line is that, if anyone there could prove the data was not from the 2020 election, then they'd be $5 million richer right now. I have not seen the data, myself, so I cannot personally verify it one way or the other. However, I trust Mike, and the reaction of these various bad actors and the lying media looks like further confirmation that Mike has been vindicated.
Thanks for the digging. It feels like a dead end for now in that the public doesn’t get the data, and the details about the team and the sources of data won’t be made known. Trump said, “We have it all,” so it seems plausible that they have the data. Mike is a trustworthy guy.
That's not how it works. PCAPs cannot just be typed into notepad and analyzed.
I'm actually an authority on the matter. I will try briefly to correct your misunderstands.
I could scratch the PCAP data in the sand of a beach with a twig and, if you knew what you were doing, you could dissect from there. Granted, that would not be the most efficient way to do it. The PCAP's were mainly available for the people in attendance at the event, particularly those who had appropriate credentials relevant to such data analysis. Among the reasons the data hasn't been made more readily available is the fact that we're talking about 37 TB of data. That is a MASSIVE amount of data and would cost a lot of money to host for everyone in the world to possibly download. And why bother when only an elite few with proper training/understanding can even make any sense of the data dump? In light of this reality, Mike streamed hexadecimal representations of the data during the event and on his sites. I'd like to see him release it as a web torrent, because I would like to have a look at the data, myself, as I actually know how to go about analyzing it.
To further explain, computers work only with bits represented as 0's and 1's. You can open a photograph or an executable in something like Notepad, if you like. However, how you look at digital data strongly affects how useful that data is and how easily you can work with it. Rarely is Notepad an effective tool for data analysis. But, for example, if I had all the PCAP's as hexadecimal numbers in a Notepad file, I could EASILY write a script to convert that ASCII text data to whatever format is most conducive to the analytical task at hand. This is because hexadecimal is just a convenient way of representing binary, and the PCAP's are ultimately just binary data that is only meaningful when viewed as PCAP's.
Hopefully this has clarified your understanding of the matter. It is a very complex topic, and it is to be expected that lay people will be inclined to many misunderstandings surrounding it.
You're smart
He did show it, retard. Go to LindellTV there’s a video where they zoom through the data. You can freeze frame it and inspect. This is how they found the poison pill. GTFO
Were you not watching on day two when a judge's ruling essentially shut down the option of releasing the data? That judgement didn't conveniently happen right in the middle of the symposium just by dumb luck.