I could sit around crying in my beer, and I probably will later...but for now, there's work to be done.
Here's my post from yesterday for context:
https://greatawakening.win/p/12jvyrDKVx/the-husband-just-told-me-hes-tak/
Research and resources:
https://ijvtpr.com/index.php/IJVTPR/article/view/23/51
https://www.americaoutloud.com/the-mccullough-report/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8051011/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8051011/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7827936/
https://www.c19vaxreactions.com/
A resource posted by @2ndfromtheTOPKEK that may well be a game changer for my situation:
Notable comments made by health-care providers in the link above:
Dr. Jason Beduhn 5 days ago Extreme Concern! I have yet to find a prescriber that can fully explain the pathophysiology and mechanism of action if any of the mRNA vaccines. How can informed consent be possible? if the administrator can not even answer the most basic questions? I as a medical provider cannot post the government’s own data to my friends and family on Facebook or Twitter. There is no longer a question of concern.
Dr. Colleen Krause 7 days ago
My goal in posting this is to help the many of you that are suffering, with no help from doctors (who don't know what they're dealing with TO help you) and no hope of getting better.
A Pfizer whistleblower (Karen Kingston) revealed that there is graphene oxide in the vaccines. There is NO therapeutic need for this and beyond that, it is extremely toxic for humans. I won't speculate as to why that would be in there, but given everyone's symptoms and all the tests that are coming back normal, it's clear we are dealing with something unusual.
Sites are indicating that you can degrade graphene oxide by increasing your glutathione levels. Recommendation is treatment with N-acetylcysteine, as well as IV glutathione. I know that glutathione is also available in pill form on many vitamin sites. For the many dealing with all these weird neurological symptoms, you have nothing to lose by trying this.
For pain and inflammation, look into Serrapeptase.
Dr. Valerie Ellen 12 days ago
@Andrew Blawat RN EMT-P No. Reactions are being massively under reported. There appears to be very little interest in reporting and investigating even very serious reactions. And professionals who try to speak out are being intimidated, threatened with losing licences/jobs, and having their reputations trashed. No shortage of evidence on THAT! Youtube, Twitter, Facebook, big tech generally AND MSM censoring and removing even highly qualified international experts who dare to speak out about their findings, and successful treatments making 'vaccine' unnecessary. Sorry, but this is the most shameful period for the medical profession, with corruption rife. I don't know anyone who trusts medical professionals anymore.
Prof Sucharit Bhakdi, Prof Dolores Cahill, Dr Peter McCullough, Alex Berenson, Geert Vanden Bossche, Luc Montagnier, Robert W Malone, Dr Roger Hodkinson and VERY MANY others - America's Frontline Doctors, Medical Freedom Alliance, Doctors for Covid Ethics and other similar international organisations have written open letters demanding roll out of 'vaccines' stopped. But you will have to go to alternative internet sites to see and hear them, their evidence and arguments. Bitchute, Rumble, brandnewtube, Telegram - although some censorship now being introduced there too.
And there is the issue of shedding, acknowledged officially in the paperwork, making those who have been vaccinated a threat to those who have not.
All being covered up.
If you do not know any of this because you have not done your research, be ashamed. If you DO know it, but are too afraid to risk speaking the truth, be ashamed. Lives are being destroyed, people are dying in their hundreds of thousands globally. And thanks to ADE etc very many more will die when flu season arrives, and it will be blamed on a 'new variant'.
A few more links:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2782900
Thanks for the support and comments made in my previous post. There's strength in numbers and from the support of others. God speed, frens!
Thank you! You rock! I will say a prayer for your husband and you.
Thank you!!
don't know what you;ve said to him already but try some very simple easy observation arguments.
If this was truly a "pandemic" worthy of shutting down the entire world you wouldn;t even be having the conversation with him, either you or him would currently or in the past year have been coddling each other on their deathbed or grieving over each others death. Most of your neighbors and the towns around you would be completely wiped out DESPITE lockdowns and masks. You wouldn;t be going to the grocery store cuz all the staff would be dead. Most of your neighbors dead. Most of the people you know dead. The reaction to the virus does not match the real world effects.
the CCP propaganda covid videos that started it all of people falling over dead in the streets...disease doesn't work this way. At all. Ever. Disease is degenerative, you aren't just completely fine and then fall over dead in the next second.
Basics of viruses. No virus in recorded history EVER has mutated to become MORE deadly. This is an evolutionary dead end, if the host dies too quickly it loses the chance to spread to another host and reproduce. They always mutate to become more infectious.
"but but history is full of evolutionary dead ends!" No. They were dead ends for various external factors ie not adapting to the changing environment quick enough, also other organisms evolving faster etc... They did NOT evolve to be a dead end...
If its just for something like "I just want to keep my job... I just want things to go back to normal.. I just want to travel..." Then I would just shame him. The most pathetic and weak reason to get a experimental therapy...Let him know your massively disappointed in him.
Just a few things, hope this helps in some way!
Thank you for sharing the links.
I do not think this will have much of an impact on your husband. This is not pessimism it’s just experience. People do not make choices based on facts. People make choices based on emotions and then select facts that confirm their beliefs to rationalize their position.
So to de program your husband you need to understand what has happened. We have all been subjected to trauma based mind control. Make people fear, then offer them a way to deal with the fear. Explaining this to him, will or help, at least not right now. If you understand it, then you may be in a better place to deal with this.
Understand the fears and emotional drivers. Then work to address those fears with a different tool. Scared of the virus and passing it around? Ok, ivermectin stops viral replication. You will not get sick and even if exposed you will not transmit it.
Fear of being excluded, from family? From work? From travel? Etc. that’s going to be up to you to find out what the fears are and find a better way to address those fears than the vax.
Good luck.
If you are not able to get on the same page, you should probably get a divorce. It means that as a couple you are unable to come to consensus and you should be grateful for not having lost an additional 20 years before coming to that realization.
Beta males take vaccines for viruses with a 99.8% survival rate.
You should upgrade. He sounds like a shitty leader.
This should be stickied.
Well done. Knowledge is power.
Death is a real possibility. And if it goes that way there will be no stopping it.
Blood clots will ruin his health for the rest of his life, however long that is.
To gain what? The shots don't give immunity and they don't make you non contagious. What's the point?
Outstanding resources! Read through the medscape comments from medical professionals - wow
I have one to add. https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=antibody+dependent+enhancement&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart#d=gs_qabs&u=%23p%3DgIvxb1Lp4MAJ
Great job putting that all together! Prayers for you both
Have him read extensively about Ivermectin, at the same time contact America’s Frontline Doctors and get your hands on some Ivermectin! The cure is more effective than the shot, and so much safer. Having it on hand might ease his anxieties about not getting vaccinated. I hope you find the right tools here on this thread, some very helpful advice! Good luck and God Bless!
You're amazing. Hoping and praying that you guys can work it out. Thanks for sharing this info.
I can give you an anecdotal sample size of over 100 people if you would like. My family has been vaccinated, myself, my entire office, my girlfriend, her family/work, and my neighbors. Statistically, if even 1% of people were being harmed, at least one of them would have died. None have died. Now, I'm not denying that some people have had problems with vaccines, but it's so statistically low that it's insignificant.
Do you notice how all of your sources agree with your personal opinion? None of them challenge your personal bias. This is called confirmation bias. For every source you have, there's dozens that prove the opposite (from the exact same websites), maybe read those as well.
The number of people who die of Covid is also statistically insignificant, by that measure.
I know thousands of people, and not one has died of Covid. I have some online friends who claim to have relatives who have died, but I have never personally met a single person who has died of Covid. My own great grandmother, in a nursing home with late stage Alzheimer's got the virus and recovered with no long term adverse affects, and no one in her home died during the outbreak at the home.
If I knew even a single person that had been seriously adversely affected by the virus, I might be willing to take the vaccine. As it stands? After 18 months of living my life as normally as possible, living in a suburb of a major American city, working, going shopping, going out to eat, taking vacations, visiting the VA hospital for routine appointments, going to the dentist, spending time with family and friends, etc., I have not yet come into direct contact with anyone who has been ill from the virus.
That isn't to say I don't believe it exists; just to say that I think if it was gonna "get me", it's had plenty of opportunity already.
Oh, the old tried and true "seatbelt" argument. False equivalence for obvious reasons. The seatbelt only ever kicks into use if I get into an accident. There is no risk to me for using it, at all. It isn't just going to up and decide to strangle me to death for wearing it, whereas these vaccines are chemicals being injected into your body where they very well may do nothing to harm you, but they are in you; part of you in perpetuity, whether you ever would have gotten sick or not (especially the mRNA vaccines).
I am a veteran. I have taken more vaccines than I care to remember. And I suffer from auto-immune disorders that are apparently genetic, which onset after my military service, but that which no one else in my family suffers from. I just lost a grandfather two years ago that suffered multiple awful health consequences directly attributable to his exposure to Agent Orange in Vietnam. I have an uncle that developed asthma only AFTER joining the Navy in the 1980's. I have a grandmother suffering from Alzheimer's, which neither of her parents ever had, but which every single one of her 13 brothers and sisters died from. The rest of our family are about as healthy as any you've ever met. Just so happens the only veterans in the group (and the weird issue with my grandmother and her siblings) are the only ones who have all these strange health outcomes. Maybe that means these things were environmentally derived health outcomes. We'll likely never know.
Ever heard of Gulf War Syndrome? The Tuskegee Airmen? Lead paint and gas? Flint, Michigan? These are only a few of such issues which came to light, and how many never do come to light?
Roll your dice all you want, I won't begrudge you that choice. But don't act like you know jack shit about the efficacy and safety of these vaccines, when we literally CAN'T know anything about long-term health outcomes, because they've only been available for half a year, were developed in less than a year, and were issued under emergency use authorization without any long-term trials possible.
This entire board exists as a result of the unbelievability of popular narratives, and yet here you are regurgitating them, knowing full well that your immediate health outcomes mean nothing until you've had that vaccine running through your blood for an extensive period of time, until people who've been vaccinated begin having children and those children's health can be monitored and studied, etc.
You roll your dice; I'll roll mine.
mRNA vaccines may seem new to you, but they have been in development since the late 1980s.
Another misunderstanding of vaccines is FDA emergency use vs. FDA approval.
As you can see by the infographic, and the full article here, both vaccines go under testing. The only difference is that one is being manufactured at the same time it is being tested. This period for Covid started in March 2020 and ended in November.
I am sorry to hear about your experiences as a veteran, best of luck to you.
Ok retard.
I never insulted you, I just provided you with sources for my claims. No need to get upset.
You called claims that I didn't make "false". That is calling me a liar, based on a straw man.
I never said that mRNA vaccines had only been available for half a year. I said that the Covid vaccines have only been available for half a year, because that's how long they have been available.
I also never said the vaccines had not been tested. I said there had been no long-term trials, because once again, Covid first came into our lives in October of 2019. Meaning, that it is literally impossible for us to have any long-term trials for vaccines designed to combat that particular virus.
You can make all your myopic, semantical arguments to someone who gives a shit. "Oh well the vaccines aren't that different, they're the same at base, just tailored to different viruses hyuck hyuck", while I sit here seeing you for what you are, a handshake shill using canned responses to shadowbox against straw men.
I'm not upset, I just see you for who you are, and you don't like it.
Israel is 90% vaccinated, and 95% of the emergency room patients in Israel are fully vaccinated.
It's the perfect country to analyze and come to the conclusion the vaccine does next to nothing except trick your body into making spike proteins. I'm sure it's just a coincidence the spike proteins just happen to be the cause of the problems stemming from Covid-19 infections.
Keep in mind the people who tested positive and only got mild symptoms probably only had influenza a or b. The CDC itself admits the test, CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel, cannot differentiate between Covid-19 and the flu.
Not all 95% are in the emergency room for Covid-19 though. That’s the difference. When the majority of your population are vaccinated, the majority of hospital patients are also going to be vaccinated. This is being misinterpreted on social media.
Slight correction, it tricks your body into having an immune response to spike proteins, so that if you ever encounter spike proteins, your body will know how to defend itself.
You think I care what the AP fact checkers are saying, handshake?
It's very telling they can't dispute the facts so they're going with the "Missing Context" line.
So, sure, cases and hospitalizations are down as compared to January, which is exactly how respiratory illnesses function historically.
Additionally, Israel is using the same PCR tests the CDC has admitted are inaccurate as well. I'm sure that changing the PCR threshold had nothing to do with the lower numbers, right?
https://www.gov.il/en/Departments/General/corona-tests
From your AP fact check article-
It's very telling Israel's Ministry of Health released a second report on July 22 which admits that number dropped to 64%.
https://www.israel21c.org/covid-and-pfizer-what-has-israel-discovered-so-far/
It's not about "missing context," it's just basic logic. If an entire population is vaccinated, the same vaccinated population is going to be showing up at the hospital. Not that it matters, but the story is explained here as well. Beyond that, I'm not sure what assumptions you're alluding too.
So you disagree with the AP fact checkers, handshake?
AP’S ASSESSMENT: Missing context. The claim ignores the fact that Israel has only a fraction of the COVID-19 cases that it had in January, before vaccines were widespread. Furthermore, the majority of adults in Israel are now vaccinated with two Pfizer shots. No vaccine is perfect at preventing breakthrough cases, but the data shows vaccines are reducing the number of people who are severely ill, hospitalized or die from the virus.
It doesn't seem like vaccinations have stopped the spread of Covid-19 or the deaths in Israel, so what are you on about?
I understand your point completely. And I am aware of confirmation bias and how it works. For me, there is enough reason to take pause while we collectively learn more about the vax. In my situation, the jab is being pushed due to the birth of a new baby..due in late September. The risk of covid to babies is also statistically very small, and yet the chance of any harm coming to their child is enough to give the new parents pause. Why should my pause with the vax be any different or less concerning than their pause for potentially exposing their baby to covid?
As for the site I posted where healthcare professionals are commenting, I will point out that several of the respondents spoke in favor of the jab. I read their opinions as well. It's why open discussion should be allowed...so that people can make informed decisions. Sadly, discussion of anything adverse is being censored.
I am happy to learn that all is well within your sample size and thank you for sharing.
I can tell you this, that the most persuasive persuaders (people or evidence) are the ones your target can identify with ("He's like me--he thinks blah blah-- it's ok for people like me to think blah blah"). The other great persuader is the bandwagon effect: "lots of people are doing this, social support is very important to me, I want to be with the 'in crowd,' I should do it too." So, I would pick the presentation most personally appealing to him and reinforce that with how many people aren't getting vaccinated, the falling death rate, and the rapidly expanding list of therapies.
a) No placebo, that was during the testing phase last year.
b) Are you okay, dude?