HCQ has been known for decades to cure and prevent some viruses. Some question it, but before the propaganda started, there actually were diligent scientists and doctors. This was before the corruption and propaganda started. 2005 timeframe.
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Direct link? I like the screen shot but not good enough to red-pill
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16115318/
Thank you fellow pede 🙏
My pleasure
Of course PolitiFact will say it's dispooted.
The fact checkers should be the people reading the news. Everything you digest should be sourced and verified. No longer can we trust anything we read without sauce. This is a part of the great Awakening. "Fact-Checkers" is another propaganda pushing shill group that should be dismissed. I hope we can get everyone to be skeptical of these propagandists in the future.
Very true. My little brother studies medicine ... and he's told me it's best to read the papers yourself, rather than rely on some tabloid like newsweek or politifact or cnn or fox to do it for you. Telling me 'peer-reviewed' is best.
So, when I shared with my little brother the study/research done by Dr. Peter McCullough showing the effect of HCQ as treatment for early onset Corona ... he thought it was really cool. He's objective and observant. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32771461/
That reminds me, you had that website ... the guy and his cat ... working as a fake "fact-checker" ... that was hilarious and hysterical.
yes please.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/?fbclid=IwAR3tfmUEvpTl9OPx2UJSamIZTmHnsKQzne1UC8X-NDBeyPaFJWvzQDGdvsM
Thanks. Saw this before but you gave the link to save.
When docs tell me vax is safe and approved I always say: It was authorized for emergency use ONLY IF no other therapeutics are available.
Just because they suppressed the purchase of HCQ doesnt mean it does not exist.
Fauci (and many others) is guilty of crimes against humanity.
From what I've read on a gitmo site called Humerous Mathematics, Hydroxychloroquine will kill people who are adrenochrome users. It would make sense that the elites would tell the media to make sure the word is out to protect themselves vs us civilians.
That would be a great way to test everyone. HCQ has decades of data proving it is safe at 200mg per day or less. At 1500mg per day, bad side effects. I'm looking for the study that the media used to say HCQ was a killer in the UK. The trial used 2500mg per day, killing every patient. That is what the media used to malign HCQ. I don't know anything about adrenochrome, so I have no idea what HCQ would do with it, but that would be lovely, Yes Please!
The fact checkers will say that The Virology Journal is NOT an official publication of the NIH. Just be ready for an attack the messenger, ignore the message response if you put it out there.
Folks believe what they wish to believe. This has become like a religion to many people. You cannot convince them of the truth, no matter the quantity or quality of the evidence. That is why leaving breadcrumbs is so important. I don't tell normies this stuff. I ask them questions and see if they do any research. If they don't research, I know they don't have an inquiring mind and cannot be shown. I then take a mental inventory of their stuff to figure out if there is anything I want when they are gone. 😁
That's been my strategy as well. I could tell I was dealing with some major irrationality with the bizzare argument this meme generated.
I just dropped and maybe what I said will click eventually. I used to blog and drop questions about CFR and the Fed, etc in the spirit of discovery. Come discover with me... 😁
Conspiracy theories used to make me laugh. I'm not laughing anymore.
Sending this to my list again. This never got the traction it should have. We know what Fauci knew and when he knew it.
Not certain, but my guess is right when Trump called it out as a treatment. Didn't really hear much about it before then. I've known about quinine for years, since at least 2004. I was given mefloquin for southern Iraq. I researched what it was and where it came from. It was the strongest anti-malarial that we had at the time. Bad side effects. Quinine is what started it all, before that malaria was responsible for more human deaths than everything else combined. I think it still might be.
Someone needs to post this on Twitter and FB and see if they block this. I wonder what their excuse will be for this factual article WITH references.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16115318/ late on the sauce. My bad.
Always follow the links. Many good related articles, such as this one on a potential therapy (2007).
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16510163/
and more recently, still on the ACE2 theme
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34345219/
That’s interesting. But does anyone know why the FLCCC is saying that HCQ was subsequently found to be almost ineffective and therefore de-adopted?
Source. See section that says “ Isn’t the promotion of ivermectin the same thing as hydroxychloroquine – everyone claims it works when all the randomized controlled trials showed it didn’t?”
HCQ was not de-adopted entirely.
" In keeping with Declaration 37, immediately after the widespread adoption of HCQ, studies were immediately conducted by many centers. Unfortunately, all of the RCT’s reported negative results which led to rapid de-adoption** with the exception of sporadic continued use in early phase disease.**"
In other words, they found HCQ largely ineffective for patients in advanced stages of covid infection, but HCQ still showed benefit when administered in early stages.
You can find additional information about HCQ early treatment vs late treatment effectiveness here: https://hcqmeta.com/
Thanks! I guess the language of it being 'sporadic use in early phase' kind of made me think it had been mostly considered a write-off.
If any treatment was effective, the EUA for the vaccines are invalid. Moderna made 18.7 billion last year, they will probably exceed that amount this year. Pfizer numbers are similar. You can buy off a lot of folks with that kind of money. We all know that big corporations can sometimes do terrible things for profit. I think this is one of those cases. The folks promoting the pharma may have a totally different agenda, but the money buys the minions.
Trust the science?
They all think they are saving the world from certain destruction. Shut down economies, stop the pollution, take over the world and mandate all electric cars and everything else you do energy wise, what you should eat, what you should believe. In their minds they are a necessary evil. Without their forcing everyone to do what they want the human race is doomed.
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This is exactly what Rand Paul should have used on fauxi when they faced off in congress.
I found this interesting I've been sending things like this to my brother who believes 100% the covid narrative that said he is more versed in the matters like this than I am here is his responce:
"Yeah thats an older article, I remember reading it a while back.. They make an awfully bold claim that HCQ is affective against the virus but there are two issues. Theyre using primate (chimpanzee most likely) cells. And the cells are introduced to the virus and HCQ "en-vitro" ( in a test tube). If it was an ev-vivo (direct Injection into the host) the the study would be much more comprehensive. En-vitro studies are in perfect optimal and sterile environments which its not realistic compared to a drug being introduced to the chaos of a human body where a drug is broken down and has to go through various metabolic processes. It takes time for the antibiotic to get to where its suppose to go and even when it gets there it has to be present at a specific concentration to properly inhibit the binding of sars-cov to bind to ACE receptors. This article was essentially the equivalent of placing a few drops of bleach on the virus as proof that it can be killed by bleach. There are a handful of antibiotics and antivirals that, en-vitro, can kill sars-cov, but its a completly different ballgame when its introduced to a live environment"
What he said is true, but if he goes to the source document there are a number of further studies linked to it. There are also a huge number of studies outside the US that are clinically tested in vivo. The point is that this was known decades ago and was tested extensively after the 2002 outbreak of the first big Corona type virus that became a pandemic. The study in Oxford (that was used to justify banning the use of HCQ) in May 2020 that was cited for heart complications and death was by a doctor's trial where he exceeded the maximum recommended dose of 200mg per day and delivered a fatal dose of 2500mg. Severe side effects were established at 1500mg. The dosing and side effects have been well documented for over 70 years. Looking at one study and not further researching is very narrow minded, because it is being used in multiple countries throughout the world and their numbers are substantially lower than ours. I understand this is classified as anecdotal evidence, however anecdotal evidence becomes overwhelming evidence. The problem of trained scientists today, is that they have been rigidly trained to have an inflexible protocol that is simply ridiculous. They are lost in their own dogma. When you see something happening all the time, you don't say it isnt really happening because science hasn't tested it in laboratory conditions, you test it in controlled laboratory conditions to figure out all the how's and why's. I work in a laboratory. I know test protocol, just not medical. The protocols are universal for testing. Controlling variables to isolate the characteristics that are of concern.
The point is, when you do an en vitro test with positive results, you continue to the next stage of testing. Funding becomes an issue, however interest in corona viruses was high due to SARS and subsequently Swine Flu and Avian Flu. Why subsequent testing wasn't performed becomes an interesting question. Typically any natural substance that is found to have therapeutic effects are tested initially in a published paper. Subsequent further testing to determine the active ingredient is performed. The chemical composition is then synthesized and tested. If the tests replicate the therapeutic effect, the new drug is patented and undergoes clinical trials. Most synthesized replicants typically have adverse side effects not found in the natural remedy. This is thought to be because of mitigating "inactive" ingredients in the original natural sourced substance. This requires further analysis to determine what other compounds are needed to minimize side effects and then retry clinical trials. The original naturally occurring substance is rarely tested further, at least not with any published papers. This is due to the lack of monetary compensation for the extremely expensive and arduous process of developing, testing and approving any RX grade substance. HCQ could possibly have many off label uses. At this time only Lupus and RA are regularly prescribed. These were anecdotal, but the massive amounts of documented cases of positive results were substantial enough for it to be mainstream and accepted. During an emergency, the use for treating with HCQ was done, but with far higher doses than were known to be safe were utilized. The Oxford study should have posted the dosages given. If it did, no one flagged the fact it was over 12 times the recommended dosages.
https://www.ratical.org/PandemicParallaxView/PotenLethalHCQdoesInWHO+RecTrials.pdf
They also torched HCQ manufacturing facilities IIRC
I am so sorry for your loss. I am in no way saying this is what happened to your dad and I can't recall where I read it but I did read that patients are being given way too much HCQ. So much that is is very harmful. Leading to reports of people dying from HCQ.
Unfortunately, it isn't a magic potion. Nothing really is. I believe that the majority of medial personnel would not intentionally kill anyone, unless it was an Angel of Mercy type psychopath. I think if it is administered early enough, before the viral replication can overwhelm the immune system, recovery is fairly certain. Once it is bad enough, I'm not sure anything can bring you back. Im terribly sorry for your loss. Losing a parent is devastating.