Zero Hedge: This ends the debate - Israeli study shows natural immunity 13x more effective at stopping Delta than vaccines
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Well sadly, it SHOULD end the debate, but few people today get to hear such facts AND have a built-in resistance to them. Cognitive dissonance and prior indoctrination by the MSM have rendered people mostly incapable of independent thought and critical thinking.
Exactly. I sent this link to my mother who works in a lab in a hospital. She knew what natural immunity was before 2020, but for some reason has no clue what it is now.
Re-read that - "works in a lab in a Hospital". In other words, everything I know about the medical industry I learned from her. So, for the last year, I have been explaining things like herd immunity, natural immunity, and the benefits of quinine, chloroquine, and hydroxychloroquine (her father took it during WWII) - THAT I LEARNED FROM HER!!!!
Did she get the Jabs? I really think its altering peoples minds.
Zombies.
This is proof that your Mother's current state of mind is due to endless brainwashing and the MSM spewing fearporn. Praying for her to wake up fully!🙏
Why was there ANY debate about this in the first place? Shows how stupid the American population is when they doubt that recovering from a virus provides better protection against that virus (or variant), than some experimental "gene therapy" treatment.
Do we actually know if anyone HAS natural immunity? Since we don't have actual covid-19 tests, and we haven't actually isolated the covid-19 virus... how the hell do we know who has immunity to it?
This is a big misinformation trend that makes us all look crazy. The PCR tests used by almost everyone aren't meant to detect who has the virus, and those "tests" therefore can't isolate variants or prove one has the virus. However researchers have sequenced the virus gene, and variants and some traditional lab testing is still being done, showing which variant people have etc.
SARS-COV-2 exists, has been sequenced, and found to be infecting lots of people. The real scandal though is that PCR tests give false positives, and COVID deaths have been given an obscenely low bar, including sometimes having symptoms or positive PCR "test", but dying for some other reason.
How has it been sequenced if it hasn't been isolated though? Last I heard everything was based on computer models, not actual viruses we can stick under a microscope and look at.
It's been isolated. It's been sequenced. Just not by simple pcr tests. You can check for yourself. Some Chinese scientists shared the sequence early in before the CCP found out and shut them down. Other countries have since verified the sequence. The main issue is that pcr tests don't isolate it well and give false positives. This means case numbers are wrong, but doesn't mean labs haven't identified it with other tests.
Basically, the idea that SARS-COV-2 doesn't exist or hasn't been isolated is false. The similar, but very important idea that SARS-COV-2 isn't properly tested for in the rapid testing almost everyone uses, is true. The way we are made to look dumb is that these two ideas are often conflated.
Here's one random study early on. Virus was isolated from a urine sample: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32342724/
Well in one sense you are correct, the technical sense.
But if we compare deaths per # who’ve received the vax vs deaths per # who haven’t, we get a statistic like this that shows the body’s own immune system works better.
Thanks for sharing!
The rest of my immunity notes: Especially don’t get the “vaccine” if you’ve had “covid”: Immunity is better. Having natural immunity and getting the covid shot increases your chances of side effects Video: https://mobile.twitter.com/GerardPinzone/status/1395055598262235143 https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/australian-gp-rings-alarm-dont-get-the-vaccine-if-youve-had-covid-19 https://patriots.win/p/12ih0L9Knw/natural-immunity-is-more-robust-/c/
CDC admits that there is limited evidence that the vaccine improves protection against people with natural immunity https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/cdc-finally-admits-limited-evidence-vaccine-provides-improved-protection-previously-infected-natural-immunity/
Fda says antibody test not sufficient https://wearethene.ws/notable/220160
June 29 2021: “FDA reverses itself: rejects COVID antibody test results; insanity reigns”https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2021/06/29/fda-reverses-itself-rejects-covid-antibody-test-results-insanity-reigns/
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-brief-fda-advises-against-use-sars-cov-2-antibody-test-results-evaluate-immunity-or-protection “The authorized vaccines for prevention of COVID-19 induce antibodies to specific viral protein targets; post-vaccination antibody test results will be negative in individuals without a history of previous natural infection if the test used does not detect the type of antibodies induced by the vaccine.”
Feb 18 2021: Cases are down 77% over the past six weeks "We’ll Have Herd Immunity by April" -- "the consistent and rapid decline in daily cases since Jan. 8 can be explained only by natural immunity" -- by Dr. Makary, professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine and Bloomberg School of Public Health -- https://archive.vn/Kjylu
Amish reached “heard immunity already “ (no vaccine) https://www.fox29.com/news/amish-community-in-lancaster-county-reaches-herd-immunity-from-covid-19-medical-center-says
Antibody passports? Pandemic expected for at least another year https://archive.vn/V4k54
Wish it would spoke to my in laws today, father in law has the china virus but is recovering well. He's going for his second jab in a month, so is my brother in law. Presented them with this evidence, telling them they really don't need the jab now. Didn't change thEir minds in the slightest. I'm wondering what the everloving fuck the point is of surviving the death shot when it means my wife and I are going to lose every single person in our family with the exception of my brother? I'm honestly approuching a very dark place in regards to all of this.
We’ve always known this! Once you catch and get over a coronavirus you can’t spread it or catch it again! Just now that we’re in clown world we all have to stop using our brains!
In my cake decorator group I’m talking with some girls. Most of them have that I’m better than you thing about being vaxed and how everyone should be because “ you know your breathing can kill someone. I’m giving them little red pills one at a time with links that are found here ( thanks for all the good posts my frens). Most of them are getting nasty. I’m thinking it’s the I don’t like to be wrong thing. I’m hoping I can at least make one or two see the light
Neine, Neine, Neine!!!
Shotz Uber Alles!
-Klaus Schwab
Congrats on legitimizing the premise that "ThE dElTa VaRiEnT!!1!" is even something to take seriously so that this nightmare never ends...
Thanks!
EDIT: This place is such a fucking psyop...
So call it the common cold. Either way natural immunity is better.
Congrats on not knowing the attack vector is to explain more contagious only means less lethal.
Thanks?
Actual study:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1
Yeah, but... the PCR test can’t differentiate between the flu and the covid so how does it differentiate between variants? The delta is the vax imo
Therefore natural immunity is for sure the safest bet. Injecting oneself with said variant is unwise and a near guarantee to get said sick, eh?
I think your right in the money.
They even fiddled with every metric to make all cases appear to be in ‘unvaccinated’ (if in name only.)
The Variant is the Vaccine meme https://files.catbox.moe/o7ohfk.jpeg
The Breakthrough Unicorn post, aug update to May warning post: https://greatawakening.win/p/12jcvW7QH5/unicorns-everyones-heard-of-one-/
Only counted as covid breakthrough 14 days after second shot or they count the side effects as unvaccinated https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/pdfs/mm7034e5-H.pdf Op: https://patriots.win/p/12jwaKGVAH/its-this-kind-of-bullshit-by-the/c/
https://www.thedailybeast.com/ultra-vaccinated-israels-debacle-is-a-dire-warning-to-america
Breakthrough is a good thing?! https://greatawakening.win/p/12jvyowoFu/is-this-the-onion/c/
Japan Study: Delta variant resistant to Pfizer vax, produces ADE, boosters make things worse https://archive.ph/6uSbX https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1430177657535279117 Photo 1 https://archive.is/77dSg Photo 2 https://archive.ph/rVM5r Photo 3 https://archive.ph/w858U Photo 4 https://archive.ph/tIn2t The SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant is poised to acquire complete resistance to wild-type spike vaccines https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.22.457114v1.article-info https://archive.ph/U94RX Download Link https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.22.457114v1.full.pdf https://files.catbox.moe/6lnxp3.pdf
May 21 2021: “Caught Red-Handed: CDC Changes Test Thresholds To Virtually Eliminate New COVID Cases Among Vaxx'd” https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/caught-red-handed-cdc-changes-test-thresholds-virtually-eliminate-new-covid-cases-among “But NOW, and only for fully vaccinated people, the CDC will only accept samples achieved from 28 cycles or fewer. That can only be a deliberate decision in order to decrease the number of “breakthrough infections” being officially recorded.”
Good information there
PCR is the most common test, but traditional lab testing is still being done.
Delta is caused by the vaccines having low efficacy. They allow for high viral load (infection and transmission) while tending to help reduce severe symptoms. This causes selection for vaccine resistant variants and also causes increased transmission rates. These jabs aren't good enough to reach the threshold for vaccine, so they are causing the variants, but don't contain them.
Boosters will continue this trend until the jabs offer no protection at all, as Pfizer's CEO admitted recently.
Best keep the facts straight so we don't look like idiots to those looking to discredit us; pundits from the left and right get this stuff wrong all the time.
The Australian labs I’ve talked to directly (Sullivan Nicolaides)have confirmed they exclusively use the rt-pcr “test”. They refused to tell me how many cycles it’s run at. Said they can give that info to my doctor if I really need to know.
Yeah, this is the problem. Testing of the populace has been using PCR. However research testing has been done properly, using proper multi day growth testing. So we can't trust the case numbers, but the papers discussing the virus tend to be based on reliable tests.
"13"
The vaccines don't grant immunity. They never claimed that. People assumed it and circle jerked about it (because of association of vaccine and immunity) so now it's literal double think. Fucking everyone on both sides seems to be doing it too
with that said
13 X 0 is still 0.