Well said - a rare voice of courage and reason here. Q never said a word against the vax, and Trump endorsed it, as you said. As others have pointed out, there is zero possibility that all the millions of doctors around the world could be somehow coerced into taking a course of action contrary to their training and beliefs. Big Pharma is an atrocity, as you say, but in this one case they actually did something useful!
On the contrary, millions of doctors possibly were coerced into taking a course of action at first because the people they trusted to give the proper info, the CDC, WHO, and NIH, were actually in bed with Big Pharma. You need to remember who The Cabal are. They are killers and have a plan to reduce the world population down to 500,000,000 by 2035. So how do you do it quickly? You mass exterminate under the cloak of a “vaccine” after you release a bio-weapon as a virus, that is actually the 1st part of the total murderous weapon that includes the “vaccine” and boosters! Then later if enough aren’t dead, you have a heavy war! Please do your research. The Cabal is playing for all the marbles and they have no care for sympathetics.
How do you 'coerce' millions of doctors? I know doctors; I work with doctors; they are an arrogant bunch of people who are extremely independent. They are my least favorite clients other than lawyers. They make a lot of money and there's very little control over their behavior. I really don't like them. But - they know their stuff and would never take any action that would knowingly harm their patients - of that, I'm confident. There are 900,000 doctors in the US. That's a lot of coercion!
If I wanted to reduce world population, I'd want to get rid of starving people in Africa, not productive hard working people in the US. And if I were the Cabal, I'd want to get rid of those opposing me, not the 'faithful' (sheep) who believe in 'government'. The cabal needs people to work in the fields, the factories, the services. But if I really were hell-bent on killing millions of people, why not just infect the food supply - hit a McDonalds supply chain or poison the milk, or bottled water, or whatever. Why invent a complex, expensive method that requires so many participants?
Then I want you to research how the Nazi’s coerced an entire country to discriminate against and exterminate the Jews. Oh by the way, they had thousands of doctors as well.
Then I want you to research The Bolsheviks, and how over a 3 year period they talked an entire country into fighting their royal family, and army, and turning Russia into the USSR. And then killing tens of millions of their own people from the end of WWII up to 1990. Plenty of doctors here both helped them and were murdered by them.
Last, I want you to either watch the movie The Killing Fields ( a great movie and true story), or research the Khmer Rouge, and their mass extermination of 2.2 million people in a 3 year period. And they brainwashed their own population, including hundreds of doctors to help brainwash, experiment, and murder.
Oh Heaven and Earth with Tommy Lee Jones has a great long scene of the VieCong brainwashing the teens and children to turn on their own parents.
And don’t say you’ve seen them or know this stuff I’ve laid out. Because if you had, we would not be having a conversation at all regarding any of this. So go watch, research, and we’ll take in a few days or more once you soak up all that info. I’m here to help, but you gotta do the work too.
OK, you've given good examples of how people can be coerced, but your examples are of how peasants / uneducated / poor people can be coerced; that's different from highly educated and smart doctors. And yes, I've been around a while and I'm familiar with the Khmer Rouge, and I've seen the Killing Fields. I don't think that's applicable to this situation ... but still, yes it can happen.
But what about the discussion about '500,000,000' - why kill productive people in the US - why not peasants in China or India or starving people in Africa? How does the Cabal continue without a sea of sheep to toil in their factories and fields? And why such an elaborate scheme - engineer a bioweapon, then engineer a vaccine ...? Does the Cabal not control businesses like Starbucks? Put some poison in the coffee at Starbucks and you've achieved the goal far more directly (40% of the US claimed they used a starbucks in the past 3 months).
Both of you guys are welcome to state your opinions and I am glad you did not have an adverse reaction (that we know of), but it doesn't take much research to connect the dots who is behind this vax rollout and all of the horrible things going along with it. TOO MANY red flags. From my perspective it would seem there is either confirmation bias coming from your end since you took it and don't want to be wrong or you simply can't see the pieces so clearly laid out about this agenda. I see it as clearly evil, malicious, and a sign of very dangerous times.
If you find it hard to say something pro vax on this site, then its because there is a fundamental difference in what you are seeing and what we are seeing.
You shouldn't get attacked for open constructive dialog, but just don't be surprised when we pushback against your narrative because it too closely aligns with the enemy and we aren't interested in entertaining that. Good luck to you.
My parents got it - I love and respect them, and they’re healthy, but they’re at a marginally higher risk than younger folks, they’ve raised children and had full lives, so 🤷♂️.
But if the state and their indisputably depopulationist-inclined puppet-masters should try to force me or my children to get injected with this medical fraud… the ghouls will painfully regret it.
I’m not inclined to believe this is the “death jab”, so I won’t state out-of-hand that your individual calculation and resulting decision was wrong. But,
Informed Consent (and our God-granted rights) are not obviated by any medical panic pretense… and especially not this patently absurd, utterly transparent contrived dempanic.
This ain’t a vaccine, both as traditionally defined, and in the fact that it immunizes you against nothing.
When I read this the first time, it read like a light statement even though you are swearing on the grave of your mother. This statement is supposed to sound genuine and grave. Yet you start with "I absolutely promise", which already sounds fishy because if we can take your word for it you just have to promise because every promise is absolute. And just because and absolute promise is not enough, you have to swear on your mothers grave too. It's like you are adding extra words to have us believe that you are really, really, really promising. As if you are desperate to make us believe you.
Finally, you are saying that if you get sick, the first thing on your mind is going be to come here to report back that you were sick?
I bet the first thing on your mind would be to get some of that horse ivermectin that you were warning people about taking and telling them how difficult it was to dose and all the possible dangers of it in another post.
Exactly! I've tried to wrap my thoughts around it all and I didn't think Q had ever said anything against the vaccinations either. So, that's at least neutral from the Q team, and an endorsement from Trump, so I don't see why so many Patriots and in a fuss about even just wearing a mask, which is basically nothing. Plenty of workers, carpenters, surgeons, butchers, HVAC inspectors, farmers, they all wear masks/respirators at different times to protect themselves. They obviously work. I bought a couple of packs of N95 masks for me and my family because those are the ones that work the most to protect us, and me who has a weak immune system needs an N95 mask, so I still wear it diligently.
When people talk about asking God for direction or light or whatever, like dude, God directed and worked through a bunch of scientists to give us a vaccine treatment against this plague that's ravishing the world. We should be thankful for the science and research and discovery that is funded by us in the first world countries, and how Trump took away the red tape off such things to deliver a workable vaccine into us soon! I won't repeat it all, but it's that classic joke about a faithful guy caught in a flood stranded and all those people come along, but he keeps saying he's praying to God and waiting for God's deliverance, yet passing up all those practical people he just talked to as an escape from the food. We've done awesome stuff with science, and God helps those who help themselves. We really should be just thankful that the vaccine is so plentiful in our country. Many other countries are begging for the vaccine and to give it to their people to slow down covid, but us idiot Americans get caught up in essential oils or natural salts and such. Science drives real research and real results. Those weird biologic injections I take every month for my psoriatic arthritis is some crazy big pharma stuff, and yeah, they really suck because they make it weird and expensive and hard to get sometimes, but the stuff really works too! Really helps my pain and flare-ups. You can't deny direct results the same as any heart medication or anxiety medication or cholesterol medication or what have you. So just use some damn common sense, because this Patriot right here has a weakened immune system and the whole covid thing has been hard on me in the long haul. So many have said I'm just a complication away from dying so why bother for us anyway. But I'm here saying there's plenty of us fighting each day and we won't stop fighting each day with our health issues, and sometimes we just need a little help from y'all healthy people who have it all. You really don't know how lucky some of you are to not be in chronic pain, or have energy and nerve issues. Just to be blessed with his health would be amazing, and then healthy people spit at those of us with invisible disabilities for not being strong enough or being just a complication away from one more covid death. But I'm more than that. And through God, and country, the things Q team has taught us, and the President Trump getting vaccines out and ready for us with bad immune systems is nothing short of a miracle in many ways. So forgive my rambling, I know some of y'all will hate it or take issue with the views I do have, but I have them because I've lived them same as you.
Dang, what the fuq was this bizarre creative-writing pity party, handshake? Next time, at least make it sound like you weren’t typing it in a troll farm trailer with a pharma exec’s cock in your mouth.
Call me a shill, troll farm, whatever, it's my life here in America. You can disagree all you like, I'm just putting it out there all the same. You can insult me and say derogatory, sexual things at me if it makes you feel better. Doesn't change anything about that I'm chronically sick and that current medicine does help me. Did you miss the part where I said screw big pharma because they screw over us chronically ill patients more than anyone. And then make us pay for the experience, going so far as putting medical debt into collections and hurting credit reports. But sure, please tell me more how I have a pharma exec's cock in my mouth. You didn't even get me going yet. I need the details about the cock to get me going. It's gotta be veiny, girthy, full of form and a sight to behold. If you're gonna write stupid accusations, at least make them unique and descriptive, put some effort into your insults the next time you insult a sick person just for sharing their opinion.
Q lists VACCINES [NOT ALL] as one of a long list of things that so-called elites have been using to fuck us up. But you wouldn't know or care to mention that because you are just here to sow discord. If not, I suggest you start doing some serious research about the vaccines in the childhood immunization program. You could start by watching back the early episodes of The Highwire.
Well said - a rare voice of courage and reason here. Q never said a word against the vax, and Trump endorsed it, as you said. As others have pointed out, there is zero possibility that all the millions of doctors around the world could be somehow coerced into taking a course of action contrary to their training and beliefs. Big Pharma is an atrocity, as you say, but in this one case they actually did something useful!
On the contrary, millions of doctors possibly were coerced into taking a course of action at first because the people they trusted to give the proper info, the CDC, WHO, and NIH, were actually in bed with Big Pharma. You need to remember who The Cabal are. They are killers and have a plan to reduce the world population down to 500,000,000 by 2035. So how do you do it quickly? You mass exterminate under the cloak of a “vaccine” after you release a bio-weapon as a virus, that is actually the 1st part of the total murderous weapon that includes the “vaccine” and boosters! Then later if enough aren’t dead, you have a heavy war! Please do your research. The Cabal is playing for all the marbles and they have no care for sympathetics.
How do you 'coerce' millions of doctors? I know doctors; I work with doctors; they are an arrogant bunch of people who are extremely independent. They are my least favorite clients other than lawyers. They make a lot of money and there's very little control over their behavior. I really don't like them. But - they know their stuff and would never take any action that would knowingly harm their patients - of that, I'm confident. There are 900,000 doctors in the US. That's a lot of coercion!
If I wanted to reduce world population, I'd want to get rid of starving people in Africa, not productive hard working people in the US. And if I were the Cabal, I'd want to get rid of those opposing me, not the 'faithful' (sheep) who believe in 'government'. The cabal needs people to work in the fields, the factories, the services. But if I really were hell-bent on killing millions of people, why not just infect the food supply - hit a McDonalds supply chain or poison the milk, or bottled water, or whatever. Why invent a complex, expensive method that requires so many participants?
Ivan watch this retired KGB Agent explain how the communists started and are working to take over America and the world:
https://youtu.be/Z1EA2ohrt5Q
Then I want you to research how the Nazi’s coerced an entire country to discriminate against and exterminate the Jews. Oh by the way, they had thousands of doctors as well.
Then I want you to research The Bolsheviks, and how over a 3 year period they talked an entire country into fighting their royal family, and army, and turning Russia into the USSR. And then killing tens of millions of their own people from the end of WWII up to 1990. Plenty of doctors here both helped them and were murdered by them.
Last, I want you to either watch the movie The Killing Fields ( a great movie and true story), or research the Khmer Rouge, and their mass extermination of 2.2 million people in a 3 year period. And they brainwashed their own population, including hundreds of doctors to help brainwash, experiment, and murder.
Oh Heaven and Earth with Tommy Lee Jones has a great long scene of the VieCong brainwashing the teens and children to turn on their own parents.
And don’t say you’ve seen them or know this stuff I’ve laid out. Because if you had, we would not be having a conversation at all regarding any of this. So go watch, research, and we’ll take in a few days or more once you soak up all that info. I’m here to help, but you gotta do the work too.
OK, you've given good examples of how people can be coerced, but your examples are of how peasants / uneducated / poor people can be coerced; that's different from highly educated and smart doctors. And yes, I've been around a while and I'm familiar with the Khmer Rouge, and I've seen the Killing Fields. I don't think that's applicable to this situation ... but still, yes it can happen.
But what about the discussion about '500,000,000' - why kill productive people in the US - why not peasants in China or India or starving people in Africa? How does the Cabal continue without a sea of sheep to toil in their factories and fields? And why such an elaborate scheme - engineer a bioweapon, then engineer a vaccine ...? Does the Cabal not control businesses like Starbucks? Put some poison in the coffee at Starbucks and you've achieved the goal far more directly (40% of the US claimed they used a starbucks in the past 3 months).
Both of you guys are welcome to state your opinions and I am glad you did not have an adverse reaction (that we know of), but it doesn't take much research to connect the dots who is behind this vax rollout and all of the horrible things going along with it. TOO MANY red flags. From my perspective it would seem there is either confirmation bias coming from your end since you took it and don't want to be wrong or you simply can't see the pieces so clearly laid out about this agenda. I see it as clearly evil, malicious, and a sign of very dangerous times.
If you find it hard to say something pro vax on this site, then its because there is a fundamental difference in what you are seeing and what we are seeing.
You shouldn't get attacked for open constructive dialog, but just don't be surprised when we pushback against your narrative because it too closely aligns with the enemy and we aren't interested in entertaining that. Good luck to you.
I absolutely promise - swear on the grave of my mother - that if I get sick, I'll report back here.
Let me also add - I'm over 60, so perhaps I have a different perspective.
My parents got it - I love and respect them, and they’re healthy, but they’re at a marginally higher risk than younger folks, they’ve raised children and had full lives, so 🤷♂️.
But if the state and their indisputably depopulationist-inclined puppet-masters should try to force me or my children to get injected with this medical fraud… the ghouls will painfully regret it.
I’m not inclined to believe this is the “death jab”, so I won’t state out-of-hand that your individual calculation and resulting decision was wrong. But,
When I read this the first time, it read like a light statement even though you are swearing on the grave of your mother. This statement is supposed to sound genuine and grave. Yet you start with "I absolutely promise", which already sounds fishy because if we can take your word for it you just have to promise because every promise is absolute. And just because and absolute promise is not enough, you have to swear on your mothers grave too. It's like you are adding extra words to have us believe that you are really, really, really promising. As if you are desperate to make us believe you.
Finally, you are saying that if you get sick, the first thing on your mind is going be to come here to report back that you were sick?
I bet the first thing on your mind would be to get some of that horse ivermectin that you were warning people about taking and telling them how difficult it was to dose and all the possible dangers of it in another post.
Exactly! I've tried to wrap my thoughts around it all and I didn't think Q had ever said anything against the vaccinations either. So, that's at least neutral from the Q team, and an endorsement from Trump, so I don't see why so many Patriots and in a fuss about even just wearing a mask, which is basically nothing. Plenty of workers, carpenters, surgeons, butchers, HVAC inspectors, farmers, they all wear masks/respirators at different times to protect themselves. They obviously work. I bought a couple of packs of N95 masks for me and my family because those are the ones that work the most to protect us, and me who has a weak immune system needs an N95 mask, so I still wear it diligently.
When people talk about asking God for direction or light or whatever, like dude, God directed and worked through a bunch of scientists to give us a vaccine treatment against this plague that's ravishing the world. We should be thankful for the science and research and discovery that is funded by us in the first world countries, and how Trump took away the red tape off such things to deliver a workable vaccine into us soon! I won't repeat it all, but it's that classic joke about a faithful guy caught in a flood stranded and all those people come along, but he keeps saying he's praying to God and waiting for God's deliverance, yet passing up all those practical people he just talked to as an escape from the food. We've done awesome stuff with science, and God helps those who help themselves. We really should be just thankful that the vaccine is so plentiful in our country. Many other countries are begging for the vaccine and to give it to their people to slow down covid, but us idiot Americans get caught up in essential oils or natural salts and such. Science drives real research and real results. Those weird biologic injections I take every month for my psoriatic arthritis is some crazy big pharma stuff, and yeah, they really suck because they make it weird and expensive and hard to get sometimes, but the stuff really works too! Really helps my pain and flare-ups. You can't deny direct results the same as any heart medication or anxiety medication or cholesterol medication or what have you. So just use some damn common sense, because this Patriot right here has a weakened immune system and the whole covid thing has been hard on me in the long haul. So many have said I'm just a complication away from dying so why bother for us anyway. But I'm here saying there's plenty of us fighting each day and we won't stop fighting each day with our health issues, and sometimes we just need a little help from y'all healthy people who have it all. You really don't know how lucky some of you are to not be in chronic pain, or have energy and nerve issues. Just to be blessed with his health would be amazing, and then healthy people spit at those of us with invisible disabilities for not being strong enough or being just a complication away from one more covid death. But I'm more than that. And through God, and country, the things Q team has taught us, and the President Trump getting vaccines out and ready for us with bad immune systems is nothing short of a miracle in many ways. So forgive my rambling, I know some of y'all will hate it or take issue with the views I do have, but I have them because I've lived them same as you.
Dang, what the fuq was this bizarre creative-writing pity party, handshake? Next time, at least make it sound like you weren’t typing it in a troll farm trailer with a pharma exec’s cock in your mouth.
Call me a shill, troll farm, whatever, it's my life here in America. You can disagree all you like, I'm just putting it out there all the same. You can insult me and say derogatory, sexual things at me if it makes you feel better. Doesn't change anything about that I'm chronically sick and that current medicine does help me. Did you miss the part where I said screw big pharma because they screw over us chronically ill patients more than anyone. And then make us pay for the experience, going so far as putting medical debt into collections and hurting credit reports. But sure, please tell me more how I have a pharma exec's cock in my mouth. You didn't even get me going yet. I need the details about the cock to get me going. It's gotta be veiny, girthy, full of form and a sight to behold. If you're gonna write stupid accusations, at least make them unique and descriptive, put some effort into your insults the next time you insult a sick person just for sharing their opinion.
Q lists VACCINES [NOT ALL] as one of a long list of things that so-called elites have been using to fuck us up. But you wouldn't know or care to mention that because you are just here to sow discord. If not, I suggest you start doing some serious research about the vaccines in the childhood immunization program. You could start by watching back the early episodes of The Highwire.
And about masks: https://themodelhealthshow.com/maskfacts/