Wednesday: Lost taste and smell. Bed bound, completely exhausted, lack of appetite, 99.5 temp. STARTED DR Zolencko (sp) PROTOCOL. Added to that a nebulized 12% MEDICAL GRADE hydrogen peroxide AND saline (1:12) mix - @ 7ml per treatment. Did that twice for 30 min each time. This quickly fixed the chest pains issue. This one shocked me how well it worked.
Thursday: Taste and Smell still gone, still tired, getting a bit better. Still bed bound. Continued nebulizer treatments and protocols. Appetite back big time.
Friday: pains gone. Fatigue gone. Decided to walk on treadmill for 30 min (she normally does 60min). Continued protocols and nebulizer treatments.
Saturday morning: Woke up at 730, Forced herself on me (Now I need the breathing treatment). Got up, had coffee worked out for 60 minutes. Worked in garden for an hour. Id say she is recovered. Smell and Taste somewhat returned but off a bit.
Continuing Protocols until Tuesday just to be safe.
I am of the opinion that if u or a loved one get the Wu-Flu, and know about Ivermectin zelencko protocol, then, for anyone with early Rona deciding to NOT treat with this is fuking irresponsible and cruel. That comment is really aimed at medical people. When I hear about people taking weeks to recover pisses me off. Completely unnecessary. We are late 40s (FYI).
First, what great news you & wife are another success story!! 👏🏼 Second, for last couple years post-cancer I’ve utilized diluted Food Grade H2O2 in daily health regiment. I gargle (throat cancer) and ingest. Gives a nice oxygen rush. Cancer being anaerobic it withers with oxygen flooding the tissues. Just another thing AMA/FDA tries to hide. Note; I’m not a Dr and this is not advice. This is NOT store-bought hydrogen peroxide which contains other compounds and is for external use only. Space the ingestion apart from all medications and food. Dilution in water is mandatory...see below. Basically when H2O2 is added to H2O the water strips off the second Oxygen molecule leaving water + Oxygen.
Sweet!!! Hey thanks most appreciated. In re-researching the subject today I came across a lot of people commenting they had great success with nebulizing 👍🏽
Cancer is not anaerobic. Cancer is just your own cells with the signals to "grow" that are normally turned off mistakenly turned on for some reason or other. All human cells require oxygen to grow. Cells that are replicating take more oxygen, which is why tumors will build blood vessel networks to feed them.
You're misunderstanding how the H2O2 treatment is supposed to work. When you apply H2O2, that extra O becomes an oxygen radical. Oxygen radicals tear up cells, disrupt proteins, and cause DNA to mutate. The goal with the treatment is to get unhealthy cells to get badly enough damaged that they commit cellular suicide (apoptosis) and die. When we pour H2O2 on a cut, we're hoping to kill off the bacterial cells exactly in this way, and hoping we don't kill off too many of our own cells in the process.
In the context of cancer, we usually hear about antioxidants, like vitamin C, NAC, or glutathione among dozens of natural ones that people sell as supplements. We're trying to get rid of those free oxygen radicals because we know those can cause cancer if the liver can't detoxify and eliminate them fast enough.
Do you know of any studies that support this treatment or what cancers it has been proven to work for?
Further from article posted; "A book by William Campbell Douglass, MD contains very impressive case studies on the use of H2O2 on numerous different conditions such as multiple sclerosis, rheumatoid arthritis, arteriosclerosis, bronchiectasis, emphysema, arthritis, varicose veins, pneumonia, asthma, COPD (Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease), flu, yeast/Candida, warts and moles, and many more. Dr. Douglass points out that there are over 6,100 articles in the scientific literature dating from 1920 on the scientific applications of hydrogen peroxide. One of the statements says“ Tumor cells, bacteria and other unwanted foreign elements in the blood can usually be destroyed with hydrogen peroxide treatment. Peroxide has a definite destructive effect on tumors, and, in fact, cancer therapy may prove to be the most dramatic and useful place for peroxide therapy".
Here's one page you can checkout. There are MANY. Like ALL alternative cancer therapies/protocols the AMA/Big Pharma has spent lots of effort shooting them all down but all have merit. I utilized this as ONE of several therapies. It would take a tome to write them all here, but this was what I DID. After my first PetScan confirmed the cancer as Stage-4 laryngeal the next step was a sit-down with Oncologist. I was given a set of treatment options but I'd already done a lot of research and although effective time was short, I made this deal with them. I asked for 30 days to run my gamut of multiple alternative therapies and I'd then have an "after" PetScan to measure effectiveness. Surprisingly he agreed. I did it all and floored him & colleagues as my tumor has shrunk 40%. I unofficially gave them all my data but even though I just wanted to continue "my way", there were no assurances I'd kill it all. My children & family put me under intense pressure to proceed with chemo/radiation and I went through with it. I still sing with my band today. Do I regret not doing chemo/radiation? Somewhat as the radiation (36 doses) messed up my lymph nodes and that valve/flap protecting lungs doesn't always close when I swallow. No telling what damage the chemo did. I can list all my therapies & supplements and not saying which worked best, but the H2O2 therapy IMO helped greatly. There's a lot out there on it but a lot has been buried since my initial research which shows AMA/BP efforts.
THIS IS 100% correct. That is why ENDOSTATIN proteins are critical in fighting tumors. They inhibit the growth of blood vessels to the rogue cell cluster. I studied the shit out of this several years ago. The doc that discovered it found it in mouse urine from lab mice. No shit. Mouse piss. They discovered the cancer mechanism in mouse piss.
It's important too to note a lot of studies are utilizing IV dilution of H2O2 vs oral administration. I was well into my therapies and balked at H2O2 therapy as one Dr noted it needs to be an isolated therapy, to not mix with foods or other medications or therapies. I decided that since I had only 30 days I wanted to tackle this with everything I could, so I carefully spaced my 3X/day H2O2 therapies 2 hours after meds & supplements, and one hour before food. This is using 35% Food Grade diluted. I started with 3 drops in 12 oz water 3X/day & slowly worked up to 10 drops. You gotta start slow & work up. I'm looking for this one video of this Dr in his 80's who's a cancer survivor and he does over 20 drops 3X a day and says he'll take it forever. Note; True 35% is hard to find thanx to the medical mafia and any sold on places like Amazon are NOT 35%. Usually already diluted and some have outright lies in marketing. True 35% is caustic as well and will burn skin fyi.
Neither had I. I bought it on the advice of a friend who uses it for his mother who has COPD. I actually spent an hour trying to find it. Forgot where I put it. Found it, tested it on myself before treating the misses. Had to make sure I was doing it right. I read in several places it kills the viral load in the sinuses, nose, throat, and lungs. I am not a doctor, and this is not medical advice. Just discussion
Thank you , I have a Downs and autistic daughter who has a nebulizer but they the md s want to use albuteral ..liquid speed and I won’t do it ...I’m going to order this immediately ..I’m usually up on all stuff holistic ..missed this one ty so much
Sure! If you have a compounding pharmacy near you, they may also have it. I currently have the CV, and the compounding pharmacy had both the Food Grade hydrogen peroxide and the saline. Best wishes!
Wife got the Rona this week:
Monday: oddly tired, slight chest pain
Tuesday: painful deep breathing and moving
Wednesday: Lost taste and smell. Bed bound, completely exhausted, lack of appetite, 99.5 temp. STARTED DR Zolencko (sp) PROTOCOL. Added to that a nebulized 12% MEDICAL GRADE hydrogen peroxide AND saline (1:12) mix - @ 7ml per treatment. Did that twice for 30 min each time. This quickly fixed the chest pains issue. This one shocked me how well it worked.
Thursday: Taste and Smell still gone, still tired, getting a bit better. Still bed bound. Continued nebulizer treatments and protocols. Appetite back big time.
Friday: pains gone. Fatigue gone. Decided to walk on treadmill for 30 min (she normally does 60min). Continued protocols and nebulizer treatments.
Saturday morning: Woke up at 730, Forced herself on me (Now I need the breathing treatment). Got up, had coffee worked out for 60 minutes. Worked in garden for an hour. Id say she is recovered. Smell and Taste somewhat returned but off a bit.
Continuing Protocols until Tuesday just to be safe.
I am of the opinion that if u or a loved one get the Wu-Flu, and know about Ivermectin zelencko protocol, then, for anyone with early Rona deciding to NOT treat with this is fuking irresponsible and cruel. That comment is really aimed at medical people. When I hear about people taking weeks to recover pisses me off. Completely unnecessary. We are late 40s (FYI).
First, what great news you & wife are another success story!! 👏🏼 Second, for last couple years post-cancer I’ve utilized diluted Food Grade H2O2 in daily health regiment. I gargle (throat cancer) and ingest. Gives a nice oxygen rush. Cancer being anaerobic it withers with oxygen flooding the tissues. Just another thing AMA/FDA tries to hide. Note; I’m not a Dr and this is not advice. This is NOT store-bought hydrogen peroxide which contains other compounds and is for external use only. Space the ingestion apart from all medications and food. Dilution in water is mandatory...see below. Basically when H2O2 is added to H2O the water strips off the second Oxygen molecule leaving water + Oxygen.
H2O2 + H2O=H2O + O
Yes! This is the protocol we follow for the hydrogen peroxide nebulization. It cleared up a cold/congestion in less than 48 hours.
Instructions here: https://www.georgekramermd.com/hydrogenperoxide/
Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20210826201313/https://www.georgekramermd.com/hydrogenperoxide/
Buy these items now to make sure you have them on hand when you need them. They may be hard to find locally.
The article also has photos and links to purchase these items if you scroll the whole way down on the page.
Sweet!!! Hey thanks most appreciated. In re-researching the subject today I came across a lot of people commenting they had great success with nebulizing 👍🏽
Thanks Phish. I appreciate that FREN!!!
Oh, I didn't know it was throat cancer you beat!
You are one tough dude!
I learned a LOT, and it drained abunch of savings. I try to help with my experiences. 🙏
It was Fenbendazole wasn't it which cured your cancer?
A cheap safe antiparasitic.
Don't stop talking about it. We have new people here all the time.
Cancer is not anaerobic. Cancer is just your own cells with the signals to "grow" that are normally turned off mistakenly turned on for some reason or other. All human cells require oxygen to grow. Cells that are replicating take more oxygen, which is why tumors will build blood vessel networks to feed them.
You're misunderstanding how the H2O2 treatment is supposed to work. When you apply H2O2, that extra O becomes an oxygen radical. Oxygen radicals tear up cells, disrupt proteins, and cause DNA to mutate. The goal with the treatment is to get unhealthy cells to get badly enough damaged that they commit cellular suicide (apoptosis) and die. When we pour H2O2 on a cut, we're hoping to kill off the bacterial cells exactly in this way, and hoping we don't kill off too many of our own cells in the process.
In the context of cancer, we usually hear about antioxidants, like vitamin C, NAC, or glutathione among dozens of natural ones that people sell as supplements. We're trying to get rid of those free oxygen radicals because we know those can cause cancer if the liver can't detoxify and eliminate them fast enough.
Do you know of any studies that support this treatment or what cancers it has been proven to work for?
Further from article posted; "A book by William Campbell Douglass, MD contains very impressive case studies on the use of H2O2 on numerous different conditions such as multiple sclerosis, rheumatoid arthritis, arteriosclerosis, bronchiectasis, emphysema, arthritis, varicose veins, pneumonia, asthma, COPD (Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease), flu, yeast/Candida, warts and moles, and many more. Dr. Douglass points out that there are over 6,100 articles in the scientific literature dating from 1920 on the scientific applications of hydrogen peroxide. One of the statements says“ Tumor cells, bacteria and other unwanted foreign elements in the blood can usually be destroyed with hydrogen peroxide treatment. Peroxide has a definite destructive effect on tumors, and, in fact, cancer therapy may prove to be the most dramatic and useful place for peroxide therapy".
Here's one page you can checkout. There are MANY. Like ALL alternative cancer therapies/protocols the AMA/Big Pharma has spent lots of effort shooting them all down but all have merit. I utilized this as ONE of several therapies. It would take a tome to write them all here, but this was what I DID. After my first PetScan confirmed the cancer as Stage-4 laryngeal the next step was a sit-down with Oncologist. I was given a set of treatment options but I'd already done a lot of research and although effective time was short, I made this deal with them. I asked for 30 days to run my gamut of multiple alternative therapies and I'd then have an "after" PetScan to measure effectiveness. Surprisingly he agreed. I did it all and floored him & colleagues as my tumor has shrunk 40%. I unofficially gave them all my data but even though I just wanted to continue "my way", there were no assurances I'd kill it all. My children & family put me under intense pressure to proceed with chemo/radiation and I went through with it. I still sing with my band today. Do I regret not doing chemo/radiation? Somewhat as the radiation (36 doses) messed up my lymph nodes and that valve/flap protecting lungs doesn't always close when I swallow. No telling what damage the chemo did. I can list all my therapies & supplements and not saying which worked best, but the H2O2 therapy IMO helped greatly. There's a lot out there on it but a lot has been buried since my initial research which shows AMA/BP efforts.
https://nycim.com/hydrogen-peroxide-therapy-h202/
THIS IS 100% correct. That is why ENDOSTATIN proteins are critical in fighting tumors. They inhibit the growth of blood vessels to the rogue cell cluster. I studied the shit out of this several years ago. The doc that discovered it found it in mouse urine from lab mice. No shit. Mouse piss. They discovered the cancer mechanism in mouse piss.
Another study; https://rupress.org/jem/article-pdf/154/5/1539/1092078/1539.pdf
It's important too to note a lot of studies are utilizing IV dilution of H2O2 vs oral administration. I was well into my therapies and balked at H2O2 therapy as one Dr noted it needs to be an isolated therapy, to not mix with foods or other medications or therapies. I decided that since I had only 30 days I wanted to tackle this with everything I could, so I carefully spaced my 3X/day H2O2 therapies 2 hours after meds & supplements, and one hour before food. This is using 35% Food Grade diluted. I started with 3 drops in 12 oz water 3X/day & slowly worked up to 10 drops. You gotta start slow & work up. I'm looking for this one video of this Dr in his 80's who's a cancer survivor and he does over 20 drops 3X a day and says he'll take it forever. Note; True 35% is hard to find thanx to the medical mafia and any sold on places like Amazon are NOT 35%. Usually already diluted and some have outright lies in marketing. True 35% is caustic as well and will burn skin fyi.
Not exactly. All human cells can use oxygen to metabolize sugars more efficiently.
Look up aerobic versus anaerobic metabolism. Human cells are capable of both, but one is a bit more efficient.
👆🏼😉
Congrats beating your cancer! Next month, I will be 29 years cancer free!
WOO-HOOO!!! That’s great 👍🏽🎉💥. Thanx 😁
This is great news!
I recently bought a nebulizer for our medical kit. I've never used one but see how they can be helpful with lung issues.
Neither had I. I bought it on the advice of a friend who uses it for his mother who has COPD. I actually spent an hour trying to find it. Forgot where I put it. Found it, tested it on myself before treating the misses. Had to make sure I was doing it right. I read in several places it kills the viral load in the sinuses, nose, throat, and lungs. I am not a doctor, and this is not medical advice. Just discussion
Do you make that peroxide saline solution yourself to put in nebulizer or is that how you order it?
Essential Oxygen Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide, Natural Cleaner, 3%, 16 Ounce
Modudose Saline Solution for Inhalation - 100/box(5257-5mL Unit Dose)
On Amazon. I got advice to Mix two to one saline to FGHP.
Thank you , I have a Downs and autistic daughter who has a nebulizer but they the md s want to use albuteral ..liquid speed and I won’t do it ...I’m going to order this immediately ..I’m usually up on all stuff holistic ..missed this one ty so much
Sure! If you have a compounding pharmacy near you, they may also have it. I currently have the CV, and the compounding pharmacy had both the Food Grade hydrogen peroxide and the saline. Best wishes!
Thanks
I am not aware of any place that sells the solution.