Wendy has been busting her ass touring other states and teaching them how to audit their elections properly.
She has been instrumental in forming a 50 state election integrity caucus via the state legislatures. Does that ring any bells at all? Like the Continental Congress?
She knows that there are slippery snakes slipping in to the audit processes and appearing to support an audit but are advocating for a half-assed job.
I want it done RIGHT. Even if it means I have to walk away and distract myself with something else for weeks. Months.
Not only is this audit huge but it must be done so that nothing can be questioned (reasonably) or challenged.
So whatever they release, regardless of what it is, is not going to be unchallenged under any circumstances.
Even if the audit report is 100% bulletproof, the next step after its release is going to be going to court to have each and every single claim examined and dissected in detail. Under oath, with lawyers and data scientists and election legal experts.
This will almost certainly include a new audit, which will be partisan on the side of the Democrats, and/or an audit team that is officially certified to do these types of audits, both examining the original data and Cyber Ninjas' conclusions about that data.
Not a single claim from the Cyber Ninjas is going to be held as actionable unless other audit parties are able to replicate those exact same findings with exactly the same data. If a number can't be reproduced, then it will likely be considered invalid. Happens in the legal system, happens in science, happens in logic.
That's the point of an audit: to demonstrate reproducible methodological flaws. So that means that legally, the next step is going to be auditing the audit and seeing if Cyber Ninjas' claims can be reproduced by other parties. That will probably take a while, and that's assuming that the Cyber Ninjas cooperate fully.
I can't think of anything the Cyber Ninjas could write in that report that would lead to a profound, noticeable change in this country before it ends up in court, but time will tell.
"So whatever they release, regardless of what it is, is not going to be unchallenged under any circumstances."
The problem isn't the audit. The problem is a system so corrupt that Patriots get censored, deplatformed, and threatened with legal action and disparaged by Democrats and Republicans. This whole process could have been over now if everyone was interested in one citizen, one vote as per our Constitution. But we know they don't care about our country or us. They want a NWO with us as techno serfs. That's the conspiracy that's has been exposed. Not a theory, but fact talked about by Trudeau, Macron, Johnson who parrot the WEF and others. They are going down no matter what. Nazi Germany had the rule of law and courts, too. They didn't last long. NCSWIC.
I could guess, sure. But I also don't like to assume I know everything about Q. Could have meant, "Nothing Can Stop What Is Starting" or something. Literally no harm in asking.
I can't ignore linear time. That takes a falsifiable argument and makes it nonfalsifiable. It takes a testable theory and makes it one I can only accept on faith.
If Q predicts that something is going to happen, then he can either be right, or wrong.
If a Q prediction can happen today, or tomorrow, or next month's anniversary, or next year's anniversary, or at the three year delta, or if instead his prediction is supposed to come true by turning his post number into a date, or if it correlates with a delta from Trump's twitter that mentions another date, or if it mentions a color which when translated into a date becomes a new possible delta...
That's not falsifiable. That's not testable. Those aren't coincidences. That's just you deciding that Q can't fail, and rather, he's using "non-linear time" to make predictions. That's faith.
Faith is fine. But we can't debate faith, we can't analyze faith, we can't scientifically falsify faith.
That's not true whatsoever. I think in linear time because we live in a three-dimensional world, and mathematical chaos theory offers two different paradoxical conclusions: that we are subject to the whims of the direction and momentum of every particle in the universe at any given moment in a mathematically-predictable way, and that we have absolutely no way to predict any of it using real-world methodologies.
Time doesn't get to be whatever you want it to be in order for your theory to make sense. It just looks like cognitive dissonance. When a delta passes uneventfully, you refuse to accept that Q's prediction might have been wrong, and instead find it easier to believe in an entity that can exist in "non-linear time."
I can't work with non-falsifiable entities. I don't debate religion, and a Q that can exist the way you would need him to is borderline godlike.
"Ah, so I see that me programming YOU to think THAT has been successful."
Look, science and logic is about being able to consistently and accurately predict the future.
Ballistic physics means that when I throw a football, I can consistently and accurately predict where it's going to go based on its mass, acceleration forward, and the consistent pull of gravity.
Chemistry allows me to predict consistently and accurately what happens when I combine Element A with Molecule B. Every time.
Psychology allows me to predict consistently and accurately how a person will react when classically conditioned to a particular stimulus.
And so on and so forth.
I have not been able to make any consistent, accurate predictions using Q. And using deltas seems to be a way to infinitely increase the number of "tests" you can run without ever admitting that the success condition was not met.
That's not media programming. That's understanding the purpose of logic and science. If I can't predict the future with Q under scientific, falsifiable conditions, then I have no motivation to start assigning Q godlike powers to avoid fail conditions.
"Not a single claim from the Cyber Ninjas is going to be held as actionable unless other audit parties are able to replicate those exact same findings with exactly the same data." If other audit parties don't have a technique to detect what the cyber ninjas can do then that won't happen. That would be like trying to measure the with of a sheet of metal with a ruler instead of calipers. It won't work.
"So that means that legally, the next step is going to be auditing the audit..." Try that with the IRS.
"Not a single claim from the Cyber Ninjas is going to be held as actionable unless other audit parties are able to replicate those exact same findings with exactly the same data." Wrong. ASTM, for example, uses reproducibility and repeatabilty as standards to be met. Science, right?
No claim by Cyber Ninjas that is made with some sort of hidden, unexaminable technique is going to be considered legally valid. Again, it HAS to be reproducible.
I can't claim to have a machine that converts lead into gold, present you a lump of gold as my "evidence", and then claim that no, you can't examine the inside of my machine, because it's secret. You just have to accept that I can turn lead into gold. You aren't allowed to try it yourself using MY technology.
You'd call bullshit. Rightfully. Maybe I'm not lying, but I am not going to get published or taken seriously by anyone.
Cyber Ninjas will, as a matter of legal process, have to reveal how they came to their conclusions. If they don't, the case will die as a whisper in the wind.
Hello? You can't understand the analogy I presented? You leap to lead into gold? Reductio ad Absurdum doesn't work here. Of course they're going to reveal the process. That's the fun part.
If they reveal the process, somebody is going to attempt to reproduce it. And I don't think that the kinds of lawyers and auditors that would be available to the Democrats would lack the fine motor coordination to reproduce the methodologies used by Cyber Ninjas.
I suppose that's the part I don't get. You think Cyber Ninjas is running an operation and mechanism so sophisticated that nobody else COULD replicate their method, even if walked through it step-by-step?
I honestly don't know if it's the impatience of the audit, or the outcome of the audit. I believe if we knew something was positively going to be done about it. We would have more patience. Since nobody will commit to the outcome, we continue to reach out for leaders, Trump, MTG, Q, God etc. To give show or understand the outcome of this road we are traveling. Only to be consistently let down. One of the things that we understand whether religious or not. Is that this is good versus evil. We see it all around us we feel it. There is a time that we are apparently marching to down this road. But the enemy has convoluted it with confusion uncertainty and misinformation. I have no answers, but to give this advice I can as a 20-plus year Special Operations medic. We have to stay focused we have to focus on each problem that arises, and deal with it the best way we can accordingly . Not as an individual, but a collective team. I take this time to bless each and everyone of you to tell you that I appreciate you and that you do matter.
Agreed, and evidence for both stuffing ballots and destroying them needs to be highlighted! These are some serious crimes and no one should get away with them scot-free. But it should be done thoroughly and meticulously- Don't leave them one loophole or 'technicality' to slip through!
Wendy has been busting her ass touring other states and teaching them how to audit their elections properly.
She has been instrumental in forming a 50 state election integrity caucus via the state legislatures. Does that ring any bells at all? Like the Continental Congress?
She knows that there are slippery snakes slipping in to the audit processes and appearing to support an audit but are advocating for a half-assed job.
I want it done RIGHT. Even if it means I have to walk away and distract myself with something else for weeks. Months.
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So whatever they release, regardless of what it is, is not going to be unchallenged under any circumstances.
Even if the audit report is 100% bulletproof, the next step after its release is going to be going to court to have each and every single claim examined and dissected in detail. Under oath, with lawyers and data scientists and election legal experts.
This will almost certainly include a new audit, which will be partisan on the side of the Democrats, and/or an audit team that is officially certified to do these types of audits, both examining the original data and Cyber Ninjas' conclusions about that data.
Not a single claim from the Cyber Ninjas is going to be held as actionable unless other audit parties are able to replicate those exact same findings with exactly the same data. If a number can't be reproduced, then it will likely be considered invalid. Happens in the legal system, happens in science, happens in logic.
That's the point of an audit: to demonstrate reproducible methodological flaws. So that means that legally, the next step is going to be auditing the audit and seeing if Cyber Ninjas' claims can be reproduced by other parties. That will probably take a while, and that's assuming that the Cyber Ninjas cooperate fully.
I can't think of anything the Cyber Ninjas could write in that report that would lead to a profound, noticeable change in this country before it ends up in court, but time will tell.
"So whatever they release, regardless of what it is, is not going to be unchallenged under any circumstances."
The problem isn't the audit. The problem is a system so corrupt that Patriots get censored, deplatformed, and threatened with legal action and disparaged by Democrats and Republicans. This whole process could have been over now if everyone was interested in one citizen, one vote as per our Constitution. But we know they don't care about our country or us. They want a NWO with us as techno serfs. That's the conspiracy that's has been exposed. Not a theory, but fact talked about by Trudeau, Macron, Johnson who parrot the WEF and others. They are going down no matter what. Nazi Germany had the rule of law and courts, too. They didn't last long. NCSWIC.
What does NCSWIS mean? Is that a typo, or did I miss an addition to the Q codebook?
dont be obtuse dude.
anyone who spends time on this forum knows exactly what he meant to write...
I could guess, sure. But I also don't like to assume I know everything about Q. Could have meant, "Nothing Can Stop What Is Starting" or something. Literally no harm in asking.
Thanks for noticing.
Sorry, realize it came off snarkier than I had intended. I try not to assume I'm completely up-to-date on everything Q.
NP You're here talking about this stuff. Which is more than I can say for some of my family members.
I can't ignore linear time. That takes a falsifiable argument and makes it nonfalsifiable. It takes a testable theory and makes it one I can only accept on faith.
If Q predicts that something is going to happen, then he can either be right, or wrong.
If a Q prediction can happen today, or tomorrow, or next month's anniversary, or next year's anniversary, or at the three year delta, or if instead his prediction is supposed to come true by turning his post number into a date, or if it correlates with a delta from Trump's twitter that mentions another date, or if it mentions a color which when translated into a date becomes a new possible delta...
That's not falsifiable. That's not testable. Those aren't coincidences. That's just you deciding that Q can't fail, and rather, he's using "non-linear time" to make predictions. That's faith.
Faith is fine. But we can't debate faith, we can't analyze faith, we can't scientifically falsify faith.
That's not true whatsoever. I think in linear time because we live in a three-dimensional world, and mathematical chaos theory offers two different paradoxical conclusions: that we are subject to the whims of the direction and momentum of every particle in the universe at any given moment in a mathematically-predictable way, and that we have absolutely no way to predict any of it using real-world methodologies.
Time doesn't get to be whatever you want it to be in order for your theory to make sense. It just looks like cognitive dissonance. When a delta passes uneventfully, you refuse to accept that Q's prediction might have been wrong, and instead find it easier to believe in an entity that can exist in "non-linear time."
I can't work with non-falsifiable entities. I don't debate religion, and a Q that can exist the way you would need him to is borderline godlike.
This is turning into a scene from Rick and Morty.
"I programmed you to think like that."
"I programmed YOU to think like that."
"Only because I programmed you to think that."
"Ah, so I see that me programming YOU to think THAT has been successful."
Look, science and logic is about being able to consistently and accurately predict the future.
Ballistic physics means that when I throw a football, I can consistently and accurately predict where it's going to go based on its mass, acceleration forward, and the consistent pull of gravity.
Chemistry allows me to predict consistently and accurately what happens when I combine Element A with Molecule B. Every time.
Psychology allows me to predict consistently and accurately how a person will react when classically conditioned to a particular stimulus.
And so on and so forth.
I have not been able to make any consistent, accurate predictions using Q. And using deltas seems to be a way to infinitely increase the number of "tests" you can run without ever admitting that the success condition was not met.
That's not media programming. That's understanding the purpose of logic and science. If I can't predict the future with Q under scientific, falsifiable conditions, then I have no motivation to start assigning Q godlike powers to avoid fail conditions.
"Not a single claim from the Cyber Ninjas is going to be held as actionable unless other audit parties are able to replicate those exact same findings with exactly the same data." If other audit parties don't have a technique to detect what the cyber ninjas can do then that won't happen. That would be like trying to measure the with of a sheet of metal with a ruler instead of calipers. It won't work.
"So that means that legally, the next step is going to be auditing the audit..." Try that with the IRS.
"Not a single claim from the Cyber Ninjas is going to be held as actionable unless other audit parties are able to replicate those exact same findings with exactly the same data." Wrong. ASTM, for example, uses reproducibility and repeatabilty as standards to be met. Science, right?
No claim by Cyber Ninjas that is made with some sort of hidden, unexaminable technique is going to be considered legally valid. Again, it HAS to be reproducible.
I can't claim to have a machine that converts lead into gold, present you a lump of gold as my "evidence", and then claim that no, you can't examine the inside of my machine, because it's secret. You just have to accept that I can turn lead into gold. You aren't allowed to try it yourself using MY technology.
You'd call bullshit. Rightfully. Maybe I'm not lying, but I am not going to get published or taken seriously by anyone.
Cyber Ninjas will, as a matter of legal process, have to reveal how they came to their conclusions. If they don't, the case will die as a whisper in the wind.
Hello? You can't understand the analogy I presented? You leap to lead into gold? Reductio ad Absurdum doesn't work here. Of course they're going to reveal the process. That's the fun part.
I guess I did not understand.
If they reveal the process, somebody is going to attempt to reproduce it. And I don't think that the kinds of lawyers and auditors that would be available to the Democrats would lack the fine motor coordination to reproduce the methodologies used by Cyber Ninjas.
I suppose that's the part I don't get. You think Cyber Ninjas is running an operation and mechanism so sophisticated that nobody else COULD replicate their method, even if walked through it step-by-step?
I understand timing and all but the clock is ticking and at 22 months these ballots turn into pumpkins.
I honestly don't know if it's the impatience of the audit, or the outcome of the audit. I believe if we knew something was positively going to be done about it. We would have more patience. Since nobody will commit to the outcome, we continue to reach out for leaders, Trump, MTG, Q, God etc. To give show or understand the outcome of this road we are traveling. Only to be consistently let down. One of the things that we understand whether religious or not. Is that this is good versus evil. We see it all around us we feel it. There is a time that we are apparently marching to down this road. But the enemy has convoluted it with confusion uncertainty and misinformation. I have no answers, but to give this advice I can as a 20-plus year Special Operations medic. We have to stay focused we have to focus on each problem that arises, and deal with it the best way we can accordingly . Not as an individual, but a collective team. I take this time to bless each and everyone of you to tell you that I appreciate you and that you do matter.
I think this has to happen around the time of the CA recall election or right after. Whenever it prompts an audit in CA. Sounds like a good plan.
I believe this to be true however I do not believe you are actually privy to any additional information regarding the process that isn't public.
STOP IT! These erroneous buildups are maddening.
Erroneous buildups? What do you mean?
Agreed, and evidence for both stuffing ballots and destroying them needs to be highlighted! These are some serious crimes and no one should get away with them scot-free. But it should be done thoroughly and meticulously- Don't leave them one loophole or 'technicality' to slip through!