Two weeks ago today I caught the covids. It started off like a regular flu. Four days into it, the fever grew out of control for my wife and I and we were laid out on our asses fast. I did not have ivermectin until day 5 and it was horse liquid not paste. I took 1.2 CCs daily of the Dyurvet brand and it didn't seem to do much. We completely lost our sense of smell and taste. It hurts for me to look at this screen and type on a keyboard. Today the fever continues to try and come back, I'm fighting it off with Tylenol. Zinc, Vita D, Quercetin didn't seem to do a whole lot for me. This illness fucked me up severely and I'm lucky to be alive. I went to the hospital 3 times, not for oxygen levels but for what felt like panic attacks. At the hospital they immediately saw a pneumonia spot in my lung also.
What really concerns me more than anything is in my mid 40s, I now am having random heart pains, and pain in my forearms. Is it myocarditis or some other heart illness ? How is it possible? I was completely healthy, not diabetic, not smoker/drinker, and yet I'm randomly and disturbingly getting these sensations at least a few times an hour.
The bastards that are responsible for unleashing this illness upon us need to fucking HANG and die horrible painful deaths. If I didn't have a family, I might sacrifice myself on that hill to make an example out of the nearest CDC/FDA office. I find the "do a terror" meme humorous, but if you were in my position, having been what I just went through, I don't see why going postal wouldn't put a smile on my face going out in a blaze of glory. From where I'm sitting, there have been 0 arrests, the shit show continues tomorrow, and I appear to be completely FUCKED if its Myocarditis.
What you are describing corresponds to clotting. If covid doesn't clear quickly, it can cause spontaneous clotting throughout the veins and arteries. Clotting can build upon itself. A pulse oxymeter can help monitor it, but blood clots can cause problems independently of oxygen levels. At the beginning of the pandemic, there were stories of people getting cured and then later having a stroke or heart attack shortly after leaving the hospital... this was because their body eventually beat the virus but they were released before the covid-induced blood clots got cleaned. After they started including blood thinners this problem stopped being reported. NAC, and aspirin to a lesser degree, can help this. NAC acts both to inhibit clot formation, and also to break up clots.
Recommend you start looking up symptoms online to see if it matches, if the arm pain could be described as muscle fatigue, and if you have covid toes or similar. I got most of my data from Dr Sehuelt via medcram.org; highly recommend the source. Good luck!
I got it back in April 2020. I had been taking vitamins, C, D, zinc and quercetin. Didn't know about ivermectin. After my breathing got really bad I used a nebulized dilution of hydrogen peroxide. For me that did the trick, and after the first day I slept like a baby for the first time in at least two weeks, and I improved from that time on. If you are interested, let me know and I'll write down the protocol I used. But if you're already improving there may be no need.
Hey can you give it to the rest of us? thx
Here goes: in a nebulizer, 3cc of "wound wash, preservative-free" saline solution from the first aid section of the pharmacy, with 0.05cc of hydrogen peroxide. To measure an amount that small, I used a diabetic insulin syringe to measure 5 units, as a "unit" of insulin is 0.01cc. The syringe makes it easy to measure. Syringes are non-prescription items, sold behind the counter at pharmacies usually in packs of ten, but you may have to sign for them. You may have to say you know a diabetic who needs syringes. 25-unit syringes will be the easiest to measure; 50-unit (I originally got this protocol from Dr Brownstein's website, along with links to patient testimonials on YouTube, before he was censored last year. Dr Mercola had a very similar treatment, but he was recently forced to un-publish all his stuff, too. Many other doctors had it as well before the first waves of censorship. They both recommended making a large batch- 300cc of saline to 5cc of hydrogen peroxide- and then storing it in the fridge, but I found it easier to make it each time after figuring out how to measure it correctly. Some people make a big deal about "food grade" peroxide... the doctors I read didn't. I used ordinary 3% hydrogen peroxide in a brown plastic bottle from the pharmacy. Fwiw, I credit the treatment with saving my life, as my breathing was really bad.)
Interesting.... makes me think of the time when Trump was suggesting disinfectants for our lungs
Also worth pointing out that the doctor's blog recommended first, do the vitamins; second, a B12 & C shot (don't remember the details, it was hard to obtain in my area, so I skipped it); and then if you didn't get better after that, especially with breathing difficulty, at that point do the nebulizing. So I'd recommend using this therapy only if the easier ones don't work. That said, once I got used to the idea, it's pretty easy to perform and did help me tremendously.
My doc did put me on vit D and B12, pills not IV. I wish I had enough energy to swallow etc all the recommended stuff . . .
Really, ppl are getting red-pilled on nutrition and natural and tried-and-true remedies and that is a very good thing!
Health and Blessings Mr A!
It was a mistake going to the hospital at all. If they gave you any medicine it will be something that will cause massive problems in you. You did not specify if they gave you medicine. If you have pnemonia on your lungs which you could with covid than you need antibiotics to clear that out. Do not take Farioniacin or any other antibiotic that has nicacin in the name. Doses of 10,000 units of vitamin C daily according to one of the experts. Start with 5000 and work your way up. If you get the runs scale it back it means you dont need that much.
Yes, it's a supplement, available at vitamin stores and common enough that sometimes it's at chain pharmacies. N-Acetyl-L-Cysteine, but at my local vitamin store they say "N-A-C." It will probably give you smelly farts.
91 is very low for someone without chronic lung-affecting conditions. The package on my oxymeter says normal is 95 and higher. If yours is generally higher now, that's good. If it drops, it's a real problem and you'll probably notice breathing difficulties. Remember to have clean hands and fingernails when you test, and might as well test different fingers to make sure you get accurate readings.
Of course! That's what frens are for. 😎
Late to this thread..my sister has the covid..
How much NAC can she take a day?
We are using NAC as part of our COVID treatment plan too. Absolutely fantastic treatment protocols outlined here:
Covid19criticalcare.com
By the FLCCC. Absolutely trust these doctors and their recommendations. If you have to be hospitalized REFUSE REMDESEVERE. REMDESEVERE IS CAUSING MULTI ORGAN FAILURE. If you are admitted with COVID during the viral replication of the disease they absolutely WILL give you Remdesevere by default unless you refuse the drug.
Become well versed in the various protocols out there. America's Frontline Doctors has a treatment protocol and Dr. Zelenko has one too. My personal preference is the FLCCC covid19criticalcare.com option because there are very specific drugs and dosing information and in the case of hospital admittance the language and drug classes used in the protocol seem most adaptable to what hospitals might be willing to accommodate.
Thank you…your advice may save a life.
I don't think it's possible to overdose on NAC. When sick, I took 1200 mg / day.
Thanks fren
Hi Fren. I'm not a doctor, so do your own research, but fever is a good thing. Don't take Tylenol, let the fever happen. The fever will kill the illness in your body. Just don't let the fever go over 104c.
Everything else you said I agree with.
Hijacking to say:
OP reeks of a glowing faggot’s butthole.
Studies have shown decreasing a fever doesn't really prolong an illness, but I agree sweat it out as long as not miserable.
I had chest and back pain for a month after.
I'm two weeks back to work and having the same problem - bad back pain, aches and weakness from the hips down. Glad to know it stops eventually.
I hope it fades for you too. But yeah I was freaking out for a good month.
Maybe post what you're taking in detail and we can double check your quantities?
I'd review each of the protocols based on where you believe you're at, and maybe see if there's anything that's missing that you could work with a doctor or hospital (shudder) to add:
https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/
Honestly the few people I know who licked it licked it pretty quick. Are you around anyone who might be shedding? Maybe get some distance from the vaxxed just in case?
28mg is a solid dose (depending what your weight is), so it doesn't seem likely you're underdosing or overdosing.
If you're in a spot you have nothing to lose you may want to list your city/state and maybe someone can recommend you a good doctor that will look at your unique circumstances. I wish I had more to offer but it seems like you have the basics. Hopefully another fren has a similar experience and can offer you a better insight.
Shortness of breath can be caused by lack of oxygen. Do you have an oximeter. Are you taking your oxygen. Without the proper amount of oxygen your body it will not be able to transport all the nutrients and medication that you’re taking throughout your body. Fact
My o2 levels have been acceptable and I have never been on oxygen. The spot in my lung was minimal but developed almost immediately. Maybe I need some O2 therapy?
So true. The Ivermectin, if taken early and at proper doses is almost foolproof and it works within a few days, not weeks.
To beat the thing once 10+ days of progressively worse illness is definitely possible but you need to be using the drugs in the protocols and especially the suggested steroid and anti coagulant. Do not despair if your loved one must be hospitalized post viral phase. It is very serious and you'll have to be right on top of the hospital staff advocating for your loved one but it is very possible they will recover even though you can't necessarily get the hospital to use Ivermectin or another effective anti-parasitc treatment. In the viral replication phase the Ivermectin is very important. We don't have many effective anti virals. In the pulmonary phase, the Ivermectin is still greatly beneficial to address inflammation but we have lots of drugs to choose from that can help with inflammation so don't despair if you cant get it for your loved ones but of course try.
Pay attention to your breathing. If it becomes difficult, that's an important warning sign. Especially if it progressively gets more difficult day after day. I had similar night sweats, along with insomnia. And chills. It was scary, but I got through it without a hospital. Fwiw, I felt feverish, almost a fever delirium feeling, but never actually had a fever.
15mg is fairly high on that from what I've seen, but an allergic reaction is no bueno.
One of the benefits of taking all these vitamins early for prophylaxis is you know how your body handles them. I've noticed that Zinc and vitamin D don't sit well on an empty stomach. FIrst round of Ivermectin gave me cramps. Took a higher dose of Zinc/Copper mix and did not revisit that one. Etc.
I feel for you fren, having all these people describing all these different treatments and experiences and you having to try and sort out something on the fly. Hope your family can help you keep track of what you've been taking, symptoms, side-effects, patterns, etc. while you're brain fogged.
Why did you take so much? The ideal dose is unknown, but all the recommended dosing I have seen on various protocols so far suggests 8mg-10mg once per day
Dear OP
I am having similar issues. Few months ago I started encountering chest pains, especially in the heart region, and pain/numbness in my arms. According to my knowledge I did not contract COVID, however a few times I was struck with flu-like symptoms that came and went in 1-2 days and I did not get tested every time that happened.
That said, in July I went to the ER because stuff became a bit scary. They did some tests but found nothing. Asked if I ever had panic attacks - nope. Had CTs, ultrasounds, blood works, etc - nothing. Except a bit elevated D-Dimer but still not at worrisome levels. So might be some clotting.
However. One doctor suspected possible GERD. So I got some stomach acid regulator or whatnot, and it is helping. My symptoms almost went away, sometimes they are there but very weakly. I am continuing GERD management and see what comes of it. Check it out as well.
check your blood pressure! even if it is a bit higher than normal some can feel it. if you let your anxiety have it's way with you, that will cause the pressure to build. breath, chill, and I take a baby aspirin when I feel mine.
Thank you !
My Dad is experiencing the exact same thing. We were late to start Ivermectin for him because my mom used my entire stash it took me three months to accumulate when she was sick and my dad refused the prophylactic dosing because he thought he would be fine. I just ordered from buy-pharma.md without a prescription so I have access to the meds I need in time for other loved ones. (Be your own doctor with caution pls - takes 15-25 days to get the meds so plan in advance).
It is well known now that after the viral phase of COVID, for people who don't really exterminate it there, the disease progresses to a pulmonary phase which damages lung and other healthy body tissues. The FLCCC recommends Methylprednisolone and Heparin as primary treatments in their protocol for hospitalized patients whose COVID has progressed (protocol at covid19criticalcare.com). I lobbied with his doctor to ensure he got the methylprednisolone instead of their default dexamethasone which is far less effective for COVID. The anticoagulant he received in hospital was called lovenox which is fine. Because of his high D dimer numbers at discharge I insisted they send us home with an anticoagulant and they sent home INJECTIBLE lovenox at a prophylactic, not treatment, dose. They should have ordered an oral anticoagulant along with appropriate testing but these people want the unvaccinated to die and they blindly follow their hospital protocols so I was lucky to get the injectables despite the distaste of administering them.
My Dad was in the hospital for 13 days. Yesterday he had been home for 6 days and while he has reported some tightness in his chest every day, yesterday he had other symptoms of possible clotting including tingling/numbness in the arm, pain in the left should/neck area and a racing pulse that exceeded 145 when he got up and walked several feet. His oxygen use needs have been steadily improving since he's been home but he was sent home with D dimer still in a very dangerous range in the 930s (healthy people have D dimer below 200 and most COVID patients admitted to hospital are between 500-900). On admission dad's D dimer was in the high 900s so from my perspective and according to that metric, they sent him home to us when he was still at the same level of risk as he was when we admitted him (his D dimer number went up to over 6,000 while in hospItal possibly partly because it took them nearly 2 full days to admit him to a room and begin treating him during which time.he got progressively worse without as much as a vitamin C or D pill!) indicating that microclotting WAS still happening in his body at the time of discharge. It is common for D dimer numbers and for the problem of microclotting in the blood to continue after hospital discharge from COVID. A pretty high percentage of patients are readmitted after discharge from hospital due to clotting events post discharge. In my opinion this is due to the gross negligence of hospitals and primary care physicians to appropriately prescribe for and monitor microclotting after discharge as those issues resolve over time in the body and the patient is restored to health.
For what it's worth my Dad has been taking NAC twice a day since he has been home as well as full strength aspirin and is still having these problems. I have been making him eat "perfectly" (no inflammatory agents from animal products until he is well) but realized yesterday that some of the foods I have been piling into him are extremely high in Vitamin K - the nutrient responsible for healthy blood clotting in the body! So, even the food you feed your loved one after discharge needs to be carefully researched and don't expect any education on this from your doctor. I would recommend feeding fruits and vegetables and supplementing with B vitamins but definitely focus on those that are low in Vitamin K and that aid in good blood viscosity like tomatoes, tomato juice, onions, garlic, turmeric....etc. A good list of foods safe to feed when your loved one is having clotting issues can be found at Kfreedaily.com
For foods high in vitamin K to avoid or limit in the early recovery phase of pulmonary COVID just search your favorite web browser. Definitely bring the leafy greens back in as soon as your loved one gives evidence that clotting issues and damage from the virus are resolved in their body. Hopefully this helps someone.
Update: Yestereay dad had a CTA (a type of Cat Scan that can ck for pulmonary embolism) in the emergency room just in case. He also had updated D dimer test. His D dimer number had dropped down to the 630 range which is great from the 930 at discharge though still elevated and indicating some microclotting. His CTA came back clear. So - possible but less likely that there is a sizable clot somewhere to be concerned with dislodging and moving through the body.
Next possibility is that elevated heart rate was the result of improper tapering off his steroid at hospital discharge. He was on 40mg of methylprednisolone in the hospital. Proper tapering based on his 2+ weeks of steroid use would have been 5 days at 20mg and 5 days at 10mg. Hospital intern discharged him with 3 days at 8mg and 3 days at 4 mg. So, first day he experienced racing heart rate was also first day the steroid was not available to his body. Some people may have steroid withdrawal even when following a proper tapering schedule so these symptoms are good to be aware of. https://www.healthline.com/health/psoriasis/prednisone-withdrawal
This was really informative. I bet the doctors didn't know how to handle you. I started ivermectin too late. I probably would not have had to go to the hospital once if I had planned ahead.
I'm still having random pains in forearms and heart area. I'm going to stick with 600 mg for now. I finally started to be able to eat and put some weight back on.
That's not correct. Both the virus (in a progressed pulmonary phase of the illness) and the shot can cause similar damage including blood clotting that results in strokes, heart attacks etc. This reality is well documented by reputable independent physicians who are not only not on the big pharma payroll but who are actively being persecuted and having licenses revoked for speaking out about the very real risks from the MRNA injections. Check the COVID treatment protocols at covid19criticalcare.com. You'll notice that in the protocols for early treatment the focus is on defeating the viral replication and as the condition worsens for those who begin treatment late or otherwise fail to see early positive results from treatment, the focus shifts to addressing ongoing problems with inflammation and clotting. It says right in the FLCCC protocol that on hospital discharge a careful tapering of the steroid must take place as well as a full month on an oral anti coagulant to help dissolve the micro clots that have formed in the blood.
Were you around shedding a lot? This could easily account for this. Also, Tylenol severe cold + flu, along with Vicks on chest. If fever, alternate every 4 hr with motrin. And hydrate hydrate. Like pee should be clear. Also, vitamin D I see you're taking. It's pretty safe @ 7,000 a day. Ivermectin do another dose 48 hrs from first. It may take a few doses if you started it later. And a humidifier if you have one.
Regular notice: I am not a Dr and this I can not prescribe a treatment or diagnose you.
We are praying fren, you got this. 🙏🏻
Oh and ELDERBERRY. the stuff works
Make sure you are getting proper electrolytes. Peeing that much and not adding salt, calcium and magnesium, potassium will surely make your heart palpitate and will give me the sense of a panic attack. I’m no doctor but have plenty of anecdotal experience with low electrolyte. Look up what the side effects of having low levels of the mentioned electrolytes are and I’m sure you will see some correlation
And no, Gatorade is not enough. That’s just sugar water which is horrible for you anyway
Pedialyte can be helpful when trying to rehydrate after dehydration.
Sounds like he might need a anabiotic for the pneumonia. I don’t care if they tell you it’s viral, you still want an anabiotic. Sounds like you also need a anti-inflammatory some type of steroid like they gave people for COPD. If your oxygen levels are below 96 or 97, you can get at home oxygen. That’s what we used for my mom and she was 80 years old and got it. Als, You can get Pedialyte in powder form. It comes eight to a box with four different flavors. You put it in a bottle of water, shake it up and drink it. That’ll give you the electrolytes without all the sugar that you’re getting from Gatorade. The staff works miracles, question be getting all that potassium that you need to help your body heal. I’m not a doctor but I just got done taking care of my 80-year-old mother who had Covid, and she’s doing fine. She’s actually going to the gym every day of the week now. LOL good luck
Well it seems like you’re on the mend, but you’re having a lot of anxiety, and I don’t know what’s going on with the pain in your body and the pain in your heart. Sorry you’re having to go through all this. Do you have any Vicodin! You might want to just take a regular Vicodin or something like that for the pain for a day or two if it hurts that much. I don’t know what else to tell you, but going to the hospital and having them mocking you isn’t going to help at all. Try a different hospital, or urgent center. Don’t tell them that you have Or had covid. If anything, just tell them you had the vaccine. Then maybe they can actually treat you! Just kidding I’m not a doctor. Best of luck