Despite the fact I have written daily on how to get HCQ and Ivermectin on social media and my cousin eats it all up and loves it, when she and her mother and brother came down with it TWO WEEKS AGO they did nothing. Now their mother—my aunt—is in the hospital and two of my cousins have bad Covid.
So,,the one cousin is 66 and he’s lived two weeks with it without pneumonia or hospitalization, so he’s doing okay. Still, I’m recommending Ivermectin horse paste for him because after two weeks, he’s still feeling poorly. He can’t get Ivermectin in his town otherwise.
His sister—same thing. Two weeks into it...seems to have survived so far. Maybe some horse paste to get rid of it once and for all.
But my friggin aunt is now in the hospital and they refuse all the the therapeutics for her. Not yet on a intubator but it’s coming. Late 70”s.
I’m not going to let this happen. No effing way.
I need horse paste protocol. I need advice for aunt in hospital. I need prayers.
I am so frigging done with this bull shit. I am so mad at the universe but I am fighting for them.
A word of warning: If they have serious trouble breathing on their own, they WILL DIE out of hospital. If your blood oxygen is too low, you need extra oxygen and/or help breathing. No medicine can cure you fast enough to overlast it.
We have at least one member here who stayed out of hospital at home with horse paste and did not make it.
True
Also helpful to have a pulse oximeter. Will tell you the O2 saturation and HR. I have one at home.
My parents have a pulse oximeter.
We did a test a while back: - without mask 96/97 - with a mask 3-4 points lower
This is great! I had one and it really takes the fear out of the situation. Loaned it 2 family's, and it was extremely helpful keeping them informed and out of the hospital
Cheap and available at every drugstore and big supermarket pharmacy. Oxygen concentrator, not so cheap but you could get them from a variety of online stores. Oxygen in a tank available at your welding supply, but then you need a delivery system to deliver a steady diluted amount, pure O2 is not a good idea, not to mention wasteful. Medical O2 and regulator stuff is by prescription.
I recommend a sleep apnea machine if you can get one. Anything is better than dying on a ventilator in a fucking hospital.
Well, there's always those situations when you do not die because of a ventilator in "a fucking hospital".
If you can't breathe on your own, you need a ventilator to survive. Period. I doubt any of us are of the class who can afford a home care with ER level gear.
Just supplemental oxygen, without intubation/ventilator, is probably all people need who go to the hospital with low oxygen levels. I'm thinking it might be a good idea to have some "emergency oxygen" source at home.
There was a woman, I think she worked for a radio station, whose husband came down with CV pneumonia. I can't remember the details but she fought to have him treated as 'regular ' pneumonia, which was just O2, not intubation. He pulled through.
One of the ER doctors in TX when this all started looked at it as 'how do I get them stabilize?' and he looked at it from the viewpoint of someone having an asthma attack and gave them breathing treatments which makes sense. My friend has asthma and more than once has gone to the ER to have Breathing treatments - she doesn't get intubation.
This is true. Approprate ventilation saves lives. A lot have been lost here because of inappropriate ventilation. For instance, if RBCs have temporarily lost the ability to carry O2, you need blood, not more pressure. If lungs are filling up with fluid, that has to be addressed first.
No, you do not need to be put on a ventilator at all. That is how they are killing people. The hospital is where you go to die, nobody has ever died from covid at home.
You need to take the ivermectin early on, otherwise the damage to the lungs has been done.
Yes, true! I had to go in...
Wait ‘one member’ here like a fellow anon passed? And she/he took Ivermectin and still passed?
Maybe I’m reading this wrong cause I haven’t had my coffee yet.
Yes.
With all those who have gone, I'm not sure he was the only one either.
Do you happen to know his u/?
Yes I do, he described his illness here openly and his last post is also public here. I'm not sure if it's ok to "doxx" him...?
Anyway it's not all black and white. It's ridiculous to think no one who takes ivermectin dies and everyone who gets ventilated dies. I know people who took it and still ended up ventilated because they were unable to breathe on their own and survived and are almost back to normal by now.
All I'm trying to say is if you or your loved one can't breathe, taking him/her to hospital is probably the best bet to save them. You can't keep them breathing by manual cpr, asthma pump or such.