Why is this stickied? Because sometimes we get so in deep with all the challenges (and WINNING) on our side, that it's good to poke our heads up and see all the hard work and WINNING our patriot bros around the world are doing. GO ITALY! WORLDWIDE!!! WE ARE WINNING!
(sorry for the mistake I made in the last post, thanks for understanding! I'm on a bus in the middle of the night, here)
Glad it's stickied Cats...we MUST stand with our brothers and sisters worldwide. Italy, Australia, France and others are just a prelude for what's in store for us here if we don't rise up.
It past time to hold these corrupt leaders accountable:
Immediate trials
Public execution
"The devil has the people by the throat" - Casablanca
Bravo ..for a moment when I flashed on “ Why is this stickied” I thought it was a rebuke and immediately planned to defend the RED !
As bad as it is in America it doesn’t compare to what our brothers and sisters are dealing with in other country’s! We need to stay “ VIGILANT “ we need to understand, really understand that we could be next, we need to keep one step ahead of the enemy, learn from the countries who are fighting for freedom . Just yesterday I thought ..why wait ? we should be marching now! I’ve been watching Aus, Can , NZ Once the flood gates are open it’s tough to hold back the water!
As a single mom with special needs daughter I am moving forward to be prepared , more than likely get out of San Diego ! Sell ? It’s not as simple with daughter to just flee , I did by an RV in case anything goes down before I’m out , I can jump in their with her and at least get to safer ground , the RV will give her some comfort on the road ..of course I will not wait until they are at my door, but I have a business, house etc , no family to run to , so can’t just grab a suitcase but I am preparing if all hell breaks lose ! More hell that is , it’s already pretty bad here !
“Make up the 5 eyes” ..I’ll admit I’ve never heard that expression , is it just an expression ? I’ll research ..if you know of simple way to direct me for info I’ll read or listen , I’d appreciate , ty
Thank you so much ...I’ve actually not read much of revelations so that scripture is new to me ..what a wonderful promise ...that will be my mantra and I’m going to put it on the window of my RV thank you for that ..I actually got a small road trex just to get my bearings ..I have no experience with the RV life , dumping tanks etc ..I do plan by next fall if we have time to buy a bigger one ...one that would be more comfortable for travel ! I just wanted something for now to learn and to have it ready in case I need it ..I have no family so I need to be ready to get out of here with my daughter if I need to . I was in the modeling world years back for a short time and left for obvious reasons but recently did a few quick jobs to get some fast cash and used it to do some work on my house, new roof floors etc . . I have to other kids who want me to save the place here, not sell , so I may leave it for them and take off, I don’t think they will leave ..daughter turned liberal, I’m heartbroken ..university got her ..my sons a Patriot but doesn’t understand the full grasp of what’s going on . He knows not to jab so I’m grateful for that .. anyway thank you so much .yes under the wings of the almighty is where I am resting !
The country's who make up this network of allies called the "5 eyes" operate to assist each other to gather intel for each other without "seeming" to break their own laws.
For example, if gov wanted intel on me without probable cause they would "ask under the radar" one of the other nations to get the info needed and "seemingly not break" our own laws. Rotten system to the core.
Wow, please feel my heart hugging you .. I never had parents and alway respect and feel so happy when I hear about mom and daughters being close ..so many families are estranged and so many kids don’t know how great they have it having a mom or dad who loves them ..if we don’t meet on earth please find me in heaven someday and introduce me to your mom ! I’ll look forward to meeting Joy!
I read somewhere else that there is something of a religious revival going on in Italy, with people praying together and singing hymns in public places. Any word on that?
Forcing Christianity down peoples throats is not the way. Religion is not the way. Religion is the perversion created by the PTB to transmute the spiritual into the obscene.
I don't mean to suggest there are no merits in Religion. It is based on spiritual exploration and thus has merits. But it is restricted in its exploration, confining the Truth to a specific box. A different box for each Religion.
The Truth is what you can experience when you stop trying to find it in the box.
Religion, as constructed, has little to do with God, and everything to do with restricting beliefs, ideas, and questions to a predetermined allowed set of them.
I disagree when you say religion is not the way. America is a Christian country and we need to keep our traditions and beliefs intact, we are being subverted enough as it is.
The Christian Religion has very little to do with the teachings of Jesus Christ.
The religion was started by a self-professed worshiper of the Sun God (Apollo in some cultures, Lucifer in others, Horus, etc.) in 325 A.D. They took the Torah (the Jewish book of Law), added in a few things, took out a few things, created some circular logic to self contain it, and used that religion to unite and control the entire population of Europe and the Americas for nearly two millennia.
Other "religions" in other parts of the world follow the exact same pattern; all to control their respective populations, which they did VERY well. When you really dig into them you see they even all use the same teachings. The parallels, once you start studying with an unbiased eye are unbelievable until you see the perpetually repeating patterns.
we need to keep our traditions and beliefs intact
Our "tradition" is slavery (I don't mean black slavery in the south). Our beliefs are based largely on fraud. They were constructed by the PTB in order to control us and enslave us without us realizing we are slaves. They created the perfect illusion. Many here realize that is going on now. Some here realize that has been going on for a long time. A few here have really dug in and realize that has been happening for many thousands of years, controlled by the same group the entire time.
The Great Awakening is about understanding this reality; that our beliefs are all based on the lies we learned from their books, stories, articles, pictures, movies, shows, websites, etc., etc..
The GA is about learning how to use critical thinking and discernment, coupled with an honest investigation into the truth, tempered with the power of debate using many minds, all endeavoring in an earnest attempt at finding the Truth, wherever that may lead.
America is a Christian country, founded on Christian principles. If you knew our true history and beginnings, you would understand how vital it is that we get back to our foundation. No one should be "forcing" anything down anyone's throat and it is NOT based on spiritual exploration. We are created beings, created in the image of God. You have the right to believe or not but history tells the story. A wise person is one who looks for this understanding.
The reality of the religion called Christianity will take some digging to understand, and perhaps many are not yet ready for that phase of The Great Awakening, but all books that exist today that are available in sufficient numbers (including the Bible) were written by the same group of people that are currently working to enslave us.
That doesn't mean there is no truth in the Bible, like all things, the best deceptions and population control mechanisms are based on truth, but the lies that were injected are doosies. Once you really open your eyes to the true Revelations contained therein, you can never go back to sleep.
Could you please provide some sources you've used to learn about the creation of Christianity? Genuinely curious.
That the main tenets of the Christian Religion as it is adhered to today has its origins long after the Death of Jesus is not disputed. I learned this in Sunday School many decades ago. There is nothing new here to a Christian. Everytime you say the Nicene Creed you restate the beliefs setup centuries after Christ. This explains the Bible's origins (as it is written today). The Nicene Creed lays out one of the fundamental beliefs of the Christian Religion; the Triune God.
This meeting that determined the tenets of the Religion also determined what books to include in the Bible. There are many books that are referenced in the Bible that were left out. Many have been found in the Dead Sea Scrolls. The book of Enoch is particularly interesting (there are other translations), but there are many others. Not only are there many left out that were referenced in what was included, but there are many others that have been found that are from the same area/time period and were not self-referenced. I suggest an investigation. Many are worth a read.
The Nicene Convention (or rather, the First Ecumenical Council as it is called today) was brought together by Emporer Constantine to create a unifying belief system to control the Roman Empire and give motive to expand his domain. The Nicene convention took from Pagan customs, Egyptian customs, competing Christian ideologies and various other religions that existed in the huge Eastern and Western Roman Empire and married them into one Religion (called Christianity today) allowing for him to bring together the Eastern and Western Empires under a united Rome, his Rome.
This gives a breakdown of the origins of Christianity. I absolutely hate the authors beliefs; suggesting that Judaism is the obvious Truth. Note that the author is a proponent of Judaism, not Zionism (or Satanism), the "other" Jewish religion that is apparently adhered to by the PTB. (The Religious fuckery by the PTB knows no bounds once you start digging.) The reason I am providing this link, despite my distaste for their obvious beliefs, is that they provide a good argument and a fair bit of useful evidence. Like all investigations, you have to learn to ignore the narrative and look at the evidence presented on its own merits. You then have to dig deeper to find corroboration. Even then, don't assume anything is truth. Each step is an attempt to get closer and closer to it. I suggest you don't ever allow yourself to assume you have found it. That only leads to the inability to see evidence to the contrary.
To determine if Constantine was a worshiper of the Sun God throw a stone. If you hit a Christian, they will say either "he was not" or "he converted on his deathbed." If you hit a non-Christian they will say he was a worshiper of Apollo/Mithra. This Sun god is associated with Lucifer, Ba'al, or Horus in some cultures.
The Codex Theodosianus: On Religion is apparently the official document of the Law that became the Christian Church doctrine (or an English translation of it). It clearly lays out in law the allowed beliefs of the Roman Empire. This was to unify the empire and bring it under control. When everyone has one belief, they will listen to one leader. It doesn't really get any more simple than that. This rule became what was eventually Europe, which remained under one rule (the pope) for a millennia. The Roman Empire never really died. I'm not sure, but we might still be Roman citizens (legally speaking). I'm still digging on that.
Of course without an enemy to drive hate and fear, you have less control. The good ole' Hegelian dialectic must be fed to maintain control. This I believe was the reason for the creation of the Muslim Religion. Two enemies created by opposing belief systems. Always looking at each other, allowing themselves to be subjugated by tyrannical rulers (in each case, the society took a step backwards under the religions, though they eventually moved forward again).
I will not be justifying that paragraph. I am laying out an idea. it has supporting evidence, but is outside of the scope of this, as it is on Christianity.
This presents a really nice exploration of the history of the Trinity. His paper with sources can be found here. It concludes that the origin of the Trinity as a foundational Christian doctrine wasn't stated explicitly until the Second Ecumenical Council in 381 A.D., three and a half centuries after the reported death of Jesus. It also suggests that the Disciples of Jesus did not adhere to Jesus as God in the sense of the trinity, but rather in the sense of all of us as God. (What I mean by that requires far more explanation, and I can't do this concept justice in this brief response.)
This looks at the idea of the Trinity having its origins going back many thousands of years all across the world, It does not talk about the exact same Trinity as the foundational tenet of Christianity, but rather a triune idea of God (the father in Christianity), God the Word (Jesus aka The Messiah in Christianity), and God Sophia (wisdom aka The Holy Spirit in Christianity). In this historical reference, and if one takes out the Nicene doctrine and rereads Jesus' teachings, one finds the Trinity more as the trinity (lower case), and that God is one God (the creator). God's word is all of us and God's wisdom is also all of us. Part of the whole, but not the same. Not the same level (because we are trapped on Earth, or we believe that we are).
This is in no small part the same as the teachings of Buddha, but not just Buddha, but its essence can be found in every religion going back millennia. It wasn't until the second Nicene convention that that changed. It changed again 50 years after Muhammad when the Quran was written. I assert these Religions were created not by their original teachers, but long after they died (half a century in the case of Muhammad and three and a half centuries in the case of Christianity). When you really dig in, and take out the "official doctrines" that are included in the books on the topic (not a single word of either that were written by the "teachers") the overall narrative of the doctrine went substantially against the original teachings from both Jesus and Muhammad.
This entire playlist is particularly interesting. I do not agree with many of this persons conclusions, I think he is missing some pieces in his exposure. He tells a fun story (narrative overlay), but the reason I am putting it here is because he presents a ton of evidence, and connections between those pieces of evidence that when you dig deeper have a lot of corroboration. Like one of the links above, it suggests connections between the ancient world's religions and the modern (post Nicene convention) Christianity. By ancient, I mean really ancient. It suggests that there was an advanced, world wide civilization for thousands of years that ended 12,000 years ago. The evidence is very compelling. I highly recommend watching the whole thing and digging in to the parts that seem interesting.
I suggest there is much more to human history than just the past 10,000 years of it for which we have a story, almost all of the official version is based on just a few pieces of evidence, and leaves out more evidence than it includes. Who is writing the history books? More importantly, who is publishing them (i.e. the final editors)?
Lets look at just the Bible itself. I'm just going to expose one discrepancy that shows a fundamental issue with a major Christian tenet, but there are many others. I like this one because its so easy to see. This is from another post of mine:
The bible as known today was a work of dogma created at the convention. A change of phrase here, a word there, can make all the difference in the world. It doesn't take much to completely alter meaning.
It's also very important to realize (which most do, but don't fully grasp) that the entire concept of "the law" part of the bible (Torah) is in large part the Jewish bible. Within it are stories of things like God demanding, or desiring first born son blood sacrifices, etc..
"Oh, but that's just the way the world was then." Really? So the Christian God wanted first born son sacrifices just like Molloch? And then he Changed? But he also says "I am unchanging"?
Look at the original Passover event. The Torah (old Testament) version of the "Creator God" apparently wanted all first born Egyptian sons to die so badly, he sent his angels to kill them all. "Oh, but that was only a last resort because they wouldn't let 'God's chosen people' go" (think about who those people were, one chosen race above all humanity in the entire world). Please note that murder by angel directive is not the same thing as "allowing bad things to happen". This is a direct act of murder by thug. So God wouldn't have killed them all (because presumably such a direct action of murder is bad) if they had only let the people go. God had to choose the lesser of two evils...
What kind of Creator God has to choose the lesser of two evils? Does that make ANY SENSE AT ALL?
Of course, the bible also says "if you run into logic that doesn't allow this book to make sense, take it on faith that the book is right and the logic is wrong".
Where else have we seen such statements?
In no way do I mean to demean the teachings of Christ. I am pointing out possible Luciferian influences in the Bible that creates the Dogma of the Religion. I am not in any way talking about Christ, nor his teachings.
Everyone who thinks the Bible somehow escaped Luciferian influence because the Bible says so when that book was written (final edit) by a self stated worshiper of the Sun God (aka Lucifer in some cultures) is deluding themselves, because that is what that same book told them to do.
You were downvoated for that. Your statements contain much truth; it may come to that. Pain surely is more convincing for some other methods. These demons CANNOT ever say that they were not told.
I just got suspended on twitter for saying exactly that to a whining Australian. This only ends when we drag these politicians out into the streets, Antifa style.
We have the covid pass for everything entertaining atm. Since cases are rising again they are talking about expending it to work, school and sports. We are not as far as italy yet but its comming.
Tuesday they will give another press conference about it
I'll be praying for you guys to find solidarity and encouragement and I really hope that great Dutch spirit of fairness comes out in force to stand alongside the marginalised and hold back the excessive control. I hope you have local fellowship fren. I think there is a great sleeping mass of people who are slowly waking up to the realisation that they need to be more visible and vocal in their protests if they want to stop this juggernaut, and I pray that you encounter them in real life and are greatly encouraged by them.
Do you actually believe that you can stop a genocide by getting together and singing a song? You guys have lost connection to the reality, we are fucked.
I wish we would have something this big here with “OPEN CARRY” citizens armed to the teeth . Let government know who they are dealing with!!!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Why is this stickied? Because sometimes we get so in deep with all the challenges (and WINNING) on our side, that it's good to poke our heads up and see all the hard work and WINNING our patriot bros around the world are doing. GO ITALY! WORLDWIDE!!! WE ARE WINNING!
(sorry for the mistake I made in the last post, thanks for understanding! I'm on a bus in the middle of the night, here)
Glad it's stickied Cats...we MUST stand with our brothers and sisters worldwide. Italy, Australia, France and others are just a prelude for what's in store for us here if we don't rise up.
It past time to hold these corrupt leaders accountable:
Immediate trials
Public execution
"The devil has the people by the throat" - Casablanca
I wish I knew. Trusting in God & The Plan.
Bravo ..for a moment when I flashed on “ Why is this stickied” I thought it was a rebuke and immediately planned to defend the RED ! As bad as it is in America it doesn’t compare to what our brothers and sisters are dealing with in other country’s! We need to stay “ VIGILANT “ we need to understand, really understand that we could be next, we need to keep one step ahead of the enemy, learn from the countries who are fighting for freedom . Just yesterday I thought ..why wait ? we should be marching now! I’ve been watching Aus, Can , NZ Once the flood gates are open it’s tough to hold back the water!
As a single mom with special needs daughter I am moving forward to be prepared , more than likely get out of San Diego ! Sell ? It’s not as simple with daughter to just flee , I did by an RV in case anything goes down before I’m out , I can jump in their with her and at least get to safer ground , the RV will give her some comfort on the road ..of course I will not wait until they are at my door, but I have a business, house etc , no family to run to , so can’t just grab a suitcase but I am preparing if all hell breaks lose ! More hell that is , it’s already pretty bad here ! “Make up the 5 eyes” ..I’ll admit I’ve never heard that expression , is it just an expression ? I’ll research ..if you know of simple way to direct me for info I’ll read or listen , I’d appreciate , ty
Thank you so much ...I’ve actually not read much of revelations so that scripture is new to me ..what a wonderful promise ...that will be my mantra and I’m going to put it on the window of my RV thank you for that ..I actually got a small road trex just to get my bearings ..I have no experience with the RV life , dumping tanks etc ..I do plan by next fall if we have time to buy a bigger one ...one that would be more comfortable for travel ! I just wanted something for now to learn and to have it ready in case I need it ..I have no family so I need to be ready to get out of here with my daughter if I need to . I was in the modeling world years back for a short time and left for obvious reasons but recently did a few quick jobs to get some fast cash and used it to do some work on my house, new roof floors etc . . I have to other kids who want me to save the place here, not sell , so I may leave it for them and take off, I don’t think they will leave ..daughter turned liberal, I’m heartbroken ..university got her ..my sons a Patriot but doesn’t understand the full grasp of what’s going on . He knows not to jab so I’m grateful for that .. anyway thank you so much .yes under the wings of the almighty is where I am resting !
The country's who make up this network of allies called the "5 eyes" operate to assist each other to gather intel for each other without "seeming" to break their own laws.
For example, if gov wanted intel on me without probable cause they would "ask under the radar" one of the other nations to get the info needed and "seemingly not break" our own laws. Rotten system to the core.
I'll be praying for you and your daughter! 🙏
Thank you Daughter of Joy :)
So wonderful your daughter has a great mom like you! đź’ž
My mom was my best friend and I miss her deeply now that she is in Heaven but still "talk" to her daily.
Wow, please feel my heart hugging you .. I never had parents and alway respect and feel so happy when I hear about mom and daughters being close ..so many families are estranged and so many kids don’t know how great they have it having a mom or dad who loves them ..if we don’t meet on earth please find me in heaven someday and introduce me to your mom ! I’ll look forward to meeting Joy!
Can confirm, fren. I am NOT ever driving here. Too crazy.
Italian drivers only seem to have a death wish. Love those roundabouts...Godspeed!
I read somewhere else that there is something of a religious revival going on in Italy, with people praying together and singing hymns in public places. Any word on that?
No idea but sounds like we need a lot more of it here
Forcing Christianity down peoples throats is not the way. Religion is not the way. Religion is the perversion created by the PTB to transmute the spiritual into the obscene.
I don't mean to suggest there are no merits in Religion. It is based on spiritual exploration and thus has merits. But it is restricted in its exploration, confining the Truth to a specific box. A different box for each Religion.
The Truth is what you can experience when you stop trying to find it in the box.
Societies that do not believe in a higher power are more vulnerable to becoming slaves. -Yuri Bezmenov https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ch-A1aqddg
William Penn wisely said, "Men must be governed by God or they will be ruled by tyrants."
Religion, as constructed, has little to do with God, and everything to do with restricting beliefs, ideas, and questions to a predetermined allowed set of them.
maybe why america is the last stand, our country founded on God and still quietly we believe.
Who said anything about not believing in a higher power?
I disagree when you say religion is not the way. America is a Christian country and we need to keep our traditions and beliefs intact, we are being subverted enough as it is.
The Christian Religion has very little to do with the teachings of Jesus Christ.
The religion was started by a self-professed worshiper of the Sun God (Apollo in some cultures, Lucifer in others, Horus, etc.) in 325 A.D. They took the Torah (the Jewish book of Law), added in a few things, took out a few things, created some circular logic to self contain it, and used that religion to unite and control the entire population of Europe and the Americas for nearly two millennia.
Other "religions" in other parts of the world follow the exact same pattern; all to control their respective populations, which they did VERY well. When you really dig into them you see they even all use the same teachings. The parallels, once you start studying with an unbiased eye are unbelievable until you see the perpetually repeating patterns.
Our "tradition" is slavery (I don't mean black slavery in the south). Our beliefs are based largely on fraud. They were constructed by the PTB in order to control us and enslave us without us realizing we are slaves. They created the perfect illusion. Many here realize that is going on now. Some here realize that has been going on for a long time. A few here have really dug in and realize that has been happening for many thousands of years, controlled by the same group the entire time.
The Great Awakening is about understanding this reality; that our beliefs are all based on the lies we learned from their books, stories, articles, pictures, movies, shows, websites, etc., etc..
The GA is about learning how to use critical thinking and discernment, coupled with an honest investigation into the truth, tempered with the power of debate using many minds, all endeavoring in an earnest attempt at finding the Truth, wherever that may lead.
Could you please provide some sources you've used to learn about the creation of Christianity? Genuinely curious.
America is a Christian country, founded on Christian principles. If you knew our true history and beginnings, you would understand how vital it is that we get back to our foundation. No one should be "forcing" anything down anyone's throat and it is NOT based on spiritual exploration. We are created beings, created in the image of God. You have the right to believe or not but history tells the story. A wise person is one who looks for this understanding.
See my reply above.
The reality of the religion called Christianity will take some digging to understand, and perhaps many are not yet ready for that phase of The Great Awakening, but all books that exist today that are available in sufficient numbers (including the Bible) were written by the same group of people that are currently working to enslave us.
That doesn't mean there is no truth in the Bible, like all things, the best deceptions and population control mechanisms are based on truth, but the lies that were injected are doosies. Once you really open your eyes to the true Revelations contained therein, you can never go back to sleep.
u/evangelion
That the main tenets of the Christian Religion as it is adhered to today has its origins long after the Death of Jesus is not disputed. I learned this in Sunday School many decades ago. There is nothing new here to a Christian. Everytime you say the Nicene Creed you restate the beliefs setup centuries after Christ. This explains the Bible's origins (as it is written today). The Nicene Creed lays out one of the fundamental beliefs of the Christian Religion; the Triune God.
This meeting that determined the tenets of the Religion also determined what books to include in the Bible. There are many books that are referenced in the Bible that were left out. Many have been found in the Dead Sea Scrolls. The book of Enoch is particularly interesting (there are other translations), but there are many others. Not only are there many left out that were referenced in what was included, but there are many others that have been found that are from the same area/time period and were not self-referenced. I suggest an investigation. Many are worth a read.
The Nicene Convention (or rather, the First Ecumenical Council as it is called today) was brought together by Emporer Constantine to create a unifying belief system to control the Roman Empire and give motive to expand his domain. The Nicene convention took from Pagan customs, Egyptian customs, competing Christian ideologies and various other religions that existed in the huge Eastern and Western Roman Empire and married them into one Religion (called Christianity today) allowing for him to bring together the Eastern and Western Empires under a united Rome, his Rome.
This gives a breakdown of the origins of Christianity. I absolutely hate the authors beliefs; suggesting that Judaism is the obvious Truth. Note that the author is a proponent of Judaism, not Zionism (or Satanism), the "other" Jewish religion that is apparently adhered to by the PTB. (The Religious fuckery by the PTB knows no bounds once you start digging.) The reason I am providing this link, despite my distaste for their obvious beliefs, is that they provide a good argument and a fair bit of useful evidence. Like all investigations, you have to learn to ignore the narrative and look at the evidence presented on its own merits. You then have to dig deeper to find corroboration. Even then, don't assume anything is truth. Each step is an attempt to get closer and closer to it. I suggest you don't ever allow yourself to assume you have found it. That only leads to the inability to see evidence to the contrary.
To determine if Constantine was a worshiper of the Sun God throw a stone. If you hit a Christian, they will say either "he was not" or "he converted on his deathbed." If you hit a non-Christian they will say he was a worshiper of Apollo/Mithra. This Sun god is associated with Lucifer, Ba'al, or Horus in some cultures.
The Codex Theodosianus: On Religion is apparently the official document of the Law that became the Christian Church doctrine (or an English translation of it). It clearly lays out in law the allowed beliefs of the Roman Empire. This was to unify the empire and bring it under control. When everyone has one belief, they will listen to one leader. It doesn't really get any more simple than that. This rule became what was eventually Europe, which remained under one rule (the pope) for a millennia. The Roman Empire never really died. I'm not sure, but we might still be Roman citizens (legally speaking). I'm still digging on that.
Of course without an enemy to drive hate and fear, you have less control. The good ole' Hegelian dialectic must be fed to maintain control. This I believe was the reason for the creation of the Muslim Religion. Two enemies created by opposing belief systems. Always looking at each other, allowing themselves to be subjugated by tyrannical rulers (in each case, the society took a step backwards under the religions, though they eventually moved forward again).
I will not be justifying that paragraph. I am laying out an idea. it has supporting evidence, but is outside of the scope of this, as it is on Christianity.
This presents a really nice exploration of the history of the Trinity. His paper with sources can be found here. It concludes that the origin of the Trinity as a foundational Christian doctrine wasn't stated explicitly until the Second Ecumenical Council in 381 A.D., three and a half centuries after the reported death of Jesus. It also suggests that the Disciples of Jesus did not adhere to Jesus as God in the sense of the trinity, but rather in the sense of all of us as God. (What I mean by that requires far more explanation, and I can't do this concept justice in this brief response.)
This looks at the idea of the Trinity having its origins going back many thousands of years all across the world, It does not talk about the exact same Trinity as the foundational tenet of Christianity, but rather a triune idea of God (the father in Christianity), God the Word (Jesus aka The Messiah in Christianity), and God Sophia (wisdom aka The Holy Spirit in Christianity). In this historical reference, and if one takes out the Nicene doctrine and rereads Jesus' teachings, one finds the Trinity more as the trinity (lower case), and that God is one God (the creator). God's word is all of us and God's wisdom is also all of us. Part of the whole, but not the same. Not the same level (because we are trapped on Earth, or we believe that we are).
This is in no small part the same as the teachings of Buddha, but not just Buddha, but its essence can be found in every religion going back millennia. It wasn't until the second Nicene convention that that changed. It changed again 50 years after Muhammad when the Quran was written. I assert these Religions were created not by their original teachers, but long after they died (half a century in the case of Muhammad and three and a half centuries in the case of Christianity). When you really dig in, and take out the "official doctrines" that are included in the books on the topic (not a single word of either that were written by the "teachers") the overall narrative of the doctrine went substantially against the original teachings from both Jesus and Muhammad.
This entire playlist is particularly interesting. I do not agree with many of this persons conclusions, I think he is missing some pieces in his exposure. He tells a fun story (narrative overlay), but the reason I am putting it here is because he presents a ton of evidence, and connections between those pieces of evidence that when you dig deeper have a lot of corroboration. Like one of the links above, it suggests connections between the ancient world's religions and the modern (post Nicene convention) Christianity. By ancient, I mean really ancient. It suggests that there was an advanced, world wide civilization for thousands of years that ended 12,000 years ago. The evidence is very compelling. I highly recommend watching the whole thing and digging in to the parts that seem interesting.
I suggest there is much more to human history than just the past 10,000 years of it for which we have a story, almost all of the official version is based on just a few pieces of evidence, and leaves out more evidence than it includes. Who is writing the history books? More importantly, who is publishing them (i.e. the final editors)?
Lets look at just the Bible itself. I'm just going to expose one discrepancy that shows a fundamental issue with a major Christian tenet, but there are many others. I like this one because its so easy to see. This is from another post of mine:
The bible as known today was a work of dogma created at the convention. A change of phrase here, a word there, can make all the difference in the world. It doesn't take much to completely alter meaning.
It's also very important to realize (which most do, but don't fully grasp) that the entire concept of "the law" part of the bible (Torah) is in large part the Jewish bible. Within it are stories of things like God demanding, or desiring first born son blood sacrifices, etc..
"Oh, but that's just the way the world was then." Really? So the Christian God wanted first born son sacrifices just like Molloch? And then he Changed? But he also says "I am unchanging"?
Look at the original Passover event. The Torah (old Testament) version of the "Creator God" apparently wanted all first born Egyptian sons to die so badly, he sent his angels to kill them all. "Oh, but that was only a last resort because they wouldn't let 'God's chosen people' go" (think about who those people were, one chosen race above all humanity in the entire world). Please note that murder by angel directive is not the same thing as "allowing bad things to happen". This is a direct act of murder by thug. So God wouldn't have killed them all (because presumably such a direct action of murder is bad) if they had only let the people go. God had to choose the lesser of two evils...
What kind of Creator God has to choose the lesser of two evils? Does that make ANY SENSE AT ALL?
Of course, the bible also says "if you run into logic that doesn't allow this book to make sense, take it on faith that the book is right and the logic is wrong".
Where else have we seen such statements?
In no way do I mean to demean the teachings of Christ. I am pointing out possible Luciferian influences in the Bible that creates the Dogma of the Religion. I am not in any way talking about Christ, nor his teachings.
Everyone who thinks the Bible somehow escaped Luciferian influence because the Bible says so when that book was written (final edit) by a self stated worshiper of the Sun God (aka Lucifer in some cultures) is deluding themselves, because that is what that same book told them to do.
Just the kind of information I was looking for. Thank you very much.
Exactly the evils of religion.
i hate that they call them 'health' passes (instead of 'death' passes)
Do protest work?
They keep coming out. But nothing is changing.
So my question.
What impact is this really having?
They work. It connects people show that they are not alone like they want us to think.
I think the biggest issue we have right now. People don't want to take the vaccine. Will cave if it takes away their jobs.
I can't be upset with someone who caves to support their familes. This is why the deep state doesn't care if you protest.
They know they will pressure employerrs to do their dirty work for them. They know they will get enough people to cave to save their job.
This is why I am asking if these protest will actually work for this.
Peacful protests don't work at all, pain works.
I think if you are going to protest. You must show up to the decision makers home. Protest there.
Also.. when you see them in public. BOO their asses loudly.
The whole idea of "they won't be able to walk down the street". That needs to happen.
we did that in the UK with Jeremy Vine's house and naturally the media smeared everyone there.
They have an armed security and can't feel shame. They won't be able to walk down the street only if their legs are broken.
You were downvoated for that. Your statements contain much truth; it may come to that. Pain surely is more convincing for some other methods. These demons CANNOT ever say that they were not told.
I just got suspended on twitter for saying exactly that to a whining Australian. This only ends when we drag these politicians out into the streets, Antifa style.
I wish we had this kind of spirit in the netherlands.
I'm not familiar with the situation in the netherlands - are you guys also experiencing a similar level of discrimination and coercion as in Italy?
We have the covid pass for everything entertaining atm. Since cases are rising again they are talking about expending it to work, school and sports. We are not as far as italy yet but its comming.
Tuesday they will give another press conference about it
OK, thanks for the info.
I'll be praying for you guys to find solidarity and encouragement and I really hope that great Dutch spirit of fairness comes out in force to stand alongside the marginalised and hold back the excessive control. I hope you have local fellowship fren. I think there is a great sleeping mass of people who are slowly waking up to the realisation that they need to be more visible and vocal in their protests if they want to stop this juggernaut, and I pray that you encounter them in real life and are greatly encouraged by them.
Every major city in every country needs to do this. Enough already.
all i hear is something something hold the line
The problem with peaceful protests is that they don't work.
Those were not protests; they were wanton destruction and violence.
Do you actually believe that you can stop a genocide by getting together and singing a song? You guys have lost connection to the reality, we are fucked.
So show me the right one, where I belong and I'm gone in the blink of an eye.
Burn It Down!
I wish we would have something this big here with “OPEN CARRY” citizens armed to the teeth . Let government know who they are dealing with!!!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸