The women hate lyrics are a response to feminism. While some is actual hate (just like some feminists really do want to kill all men, even though most don't, while using the same taking points), a lot of it is hyperbole, intentionally shocking in order to highlight how the real world doesn't match up with the cultural BS they're teaching in schools and the workplace. Anyone over 25 in lower income levels, even close to poverty levels or raised in welfare, knows that a woman with children from 4 different men can earn 4 times what a woman with 4 children from one husband will, and that the D.A. will use the police state power to ensure that a man trapped into child support wage garnishment has an extremely difficult challenge to escape it, while the women who abuse the system can count on the government to track down a man and provide her income. Songs, like movies, reflect extremes.
What's especially sad is that so much of black music (gospel, blues, jazz) was the building block for so much modern music like country, rock, metal, etc. I'm really saddened to meet young black men who have no idea of who guys like Fred McDowell or Ledbelly are and the impact of their music. Kurt Cobain was hugely influenced by Ledbelly. For those who haven't heard Fred play...
Rap is a type of spoken-word art: poetry with rhythm and cadence, at least potentially. Gil Scott-Heron (70's mostly) is a very easy example of how compelling the medium can be. His "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" was ahead of its time. And "Whitey's on the Moon" would find common ground with a lot of posters here. He's rap about as much as Natalie Cole is pop. Popular top-selling rap today is mostly degenerate, but so is popular rock, or anything on Billboard's list almost regardless of genre. Even country has hits like "Honky Tonk Badonkadonk" that might make Johnny Cash walk away in disgust. Doesn't mean that good stuff, including rap, isn't out there.
Well it's "entertainment". Music is when people organize sounds in some manner to convey and idea. There's also a difference between "hip-hip" and rap. Hip-Hop is an artistic culture. It has it's own style of dancing, it's own visual art and clothing style as well as it's own language and performance medium such as block parties. It also had it's own business apparatus. The fact is that any hip-hop artist on a stage who breakbeats on a turntable, freestyles and actively programs drum machines is playing music live.
Rap is just a word made up by the entertainment industry to note entertainment with a hip-hop feel to it. Cardi B is not hip-hop She's supposedly an "entertainer" though I have yet to be entertained by her. Entertainment is not truly performed live. Entertainment is usually pre-recorded or televised and is more centered on visual spectacle as opposed to the music though it may have music playing that is not it's focus. I think this fact really confuses people who don't play music professionally. Most of what people think are musical acts are in fact entertainment shows. This is why Cardi B could go from being a stripper to a "performer". It's essentially the same line of work. This is why they got away with pushing twerking and sexualizing teenage girls.
On the flip side of this music can also be entertainment. The MTV of the 80's is very much the modern example of this. Instead of groups touring for years before having a major hit all the entertainers had to do was figure out how touring musicians dressed and what the music generally sounded like. This is basically what grunge and alternative was accusing hair metal of. Being entertainment instead of actual music. To be fair there was some truth to it but it was also a gross exaggeration. There were hair bands who were genuine musical acts and there were other entertainment acts that pretended to be bands. Video Killed the Radio Star. Why work for years to become a Top 40 pop power house when you can pretend to be one and still hit the Top 40?
In reality you need entertainment AND music. Any good musician can, at any point hang it up and become an entertainer. Entertainers on the on hand may genuinely learn how to sing, play or write their music. If you really think about how this world works it's not much different than when kings would have minstrels, jugglers and dancing bears or women in their courts. They were there to provide music and/or entertainment and enforce the illusion of power to the court-goers. It's the same with athletes and painters. In modern times you replace kings with heads of state, court-goers with businessmen and career politicians. Minstrels remain musicians, jugglers become comedians and dancing bears are now advertising executives. The court is now television, radio and the internet. Cardi B is the entertainment in the court of the Muslim immigrant bloc's leader Obama. Tom MacDonald is the entertainment of GEOTUS's court.
Nay! Keep the spirit of Beethoven and Bach alive in the west. That is the real European musical heritage. Every good true Western leader should look for the next Beethoven to put on the airwaves. While some eastern and 3rd world music has it's charms it is not the white man's music. I look at Hip-hop and other non white folk music (aka world music) as a kind of amusement. It has its entertaining moments but I will never truly understand it because I will never genuinely be part of the culture who created it. As a musician however I think you should allow some stage time for any minstrel or entertainer who makes your way into your court. Let your court-goers decide who is worthy of their praise. Should they enjoy something as degenerate as Cardi B then you will know to keep your eye on them because they may be swayed to betray you by simple and foolish things.
RIP Motown.
The Temptations, the Supremes, etc had a very wide appreciative audience.
Don’t forget twerking
Even the Greeks knew that you could control an entire society simply by controlling the music they listened to.
https://www.youtube.com/c/SensusFidelium/search?query=music
Interesting link, thanks!
The women hate lyrics are a response to feminism. While some is actual hate (just like some feminists really do want to kill all men, even though most don't, while using the same taking points), a lot of it is hyperbole, intentionally shocking in order to highlight how the real world doesn't match up with the cultural BS they're teaching in schools and the workplace. Anyone over 25 in lower income levels, even close to poverty levels or raised in welfare, knows that a woman with children from 4 different men can earn 4 times what a woman with 4 children from one husband will, and that the D.A. will use the police state power to ensure that a man trapped into child support wage garnishment has an extremely difficult challenge to escape it, while the women who abuse the system can count on the government to track down a man and provide her income. Songs, like movies, reflect extremes.
Gospel follows the Gospel. Music follows the “muse.” The latter a fabrication of antiquated pagan worship; the former an eternal Truth!
What's especially sad is that so much of black music (gospel, blues, jazz) was the building block for so much modern music like country, rock, metal, etc. I'm really saddened to meet young black men who have no idea of who guys like Fred McDowell or Ledbelly are and the impact of their music. Kurt Cobain was hugely influenced by Ledbelly. For those who haven't heard Fred play...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64T6ugyWXAA&ab_channel=ScottGrant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg9qtgzUOhw&ab_channel=ilovetrinamichaels
Just brilliant! It's too bad we don't hear more of that and "black music" has devolved into F the police, beaches and hoes, etc.
Goodnight Irene (Irene, Goodnight)
Time Traveler Music
Such a shame, such talented people blessed with rythm.
Singing in a choir is replenishin to the soul.
Rap is a type of spoken-word art: poetry with rhythm and cadence, at least potentially. Gil Scott-Heron (70's mostly) is a very easy example of how compelling the medium can be. His "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" was ahead of its time. And "Whitey's on the Moon" would find common ground with a lot of posters here. He's rap about as much as Natalie Cole is pop. Popular top-selling rap today is mostly degenerate, but so is popular rock, or anything on Billboard's list almost regardless of genre. Even country has hits like "Honky Tonk Badonkadonk" that might make Johnny Cash walk away in disgust. Doesn't mean that good stuff, including rap, isn't out there.
Well it's "entertainment". Music is when people organize sounds in some manner to convey and idea. There's also a difference between "hip-hip" and rap. Hip-Hop is an artistic culture. It has it's own style of dancing, it's own visual art and clothing style as well as it's own language and performance medium such as block parties. It also had it's own business apparatus. The fact is that any hip-hop artist on a stage who breakbeats on a turntable, freestyles and actively programs drum machines is playing music live.
Rap is just a word made up by the entertainment industry to note entertainment with a hip-hop feel to it. Cardi B is not hip-hop She's supposedly an "entertainer" though I have yet to be entertained by her. Entertainment is not truly performed live. Entertainment is usually pre-recorded or televised and is more centered on visual spectacle as opposed to the music though it may have music playing that is not it's focus. I think this fact really confuses people who don't play music professionally. Most of what people think are musical acts are in fact entertainment shows. This is why Cardi B could go from being a stripper to a "performer". It's essentially the same line of work. This is why they got away with pushing twerking and sexualizing teenage girls.
On the flip side of this music can also be entertainment. The MTV of the 80's is very much the modern example of this. Instead of groups touring for years before having a major hit all the entertainers had to do was figure out how touring musicians dressed and what the music generally sounded like. This is basically what grunge and alternative was accusing hair metal of. Being entertainment instead of actual music. To be fair there was some truth to it but it was also a gross exaggeration. There were hair bands who were genuine musical acts and there were other entertainment acts that pretended to be bands. Video Killed the Radio Star. Why work for years to become a Top 40 pop power house when you can pretend to be one and still hit the Top 40?
In reality you need entertainment AND music. Any good musician can, at any point hang it up and become an entertainer. Entertainers on the on hand may genuinely learn how to sing, play or write their music. If you really think about how this world works it's not much different than when kings would have minstrels, jugglers and dancing bears or women in their courts. They were there to provide music and/or entertainment and enforce the illusion of power to the court-goers. It's the same with athletes and painters. In modern times you replace kings with heads of state, court-goers with businessmen and career politicians. Minstrels remain musicians, jugglers become comedians and dancing bears are now advertising executives. The court is now television, radio and the internet. Cardi B is the entertainment in the court of the Muslim immigrant bloc's leader Obama. Tom MacDonald is the entertainment of GEOTUS's court.
You're saying it's Time to roll over, Beethoven?
Nay! Keep the spirit of Beethoven and Bach alive in the west. That is the real European musical heritage. Every good true Western leader should look for the next Beethoven to put on the airwaves. While some eastern and 3rd world music has it's charms it is not the white man's music. I look at Hip-hop and other non white folk music (aka world music) as a kind of amusement. It has its entertaining moments but I will never truly understand it because I will never genuinely be part of the culture who created it. As a musician however I think you should allow some stage time for any minstrel or entertainer who makes your way into your court. Let your court-goers decide who is worthy of their praise. Should they enjoy something as degenerate as Cardi B then you will know to keep your eye on them because they may be swayed to betray you by simple and foolish things.