No, abortion isn’t a federal overreach issue. As conservatives, we stand for your right to do whatever you want as long as you don’t harm or infringe upon other. Abortion kills another person.
Moreover, this barbaric practice of murdering ones offspring before it can be seen outside the body, is, and never had been, a law by the legislature. It was an unelected judicial body decision that was made "law."
Remember, our government was built with the separate of powers. The judiciary was NEVER designed to make law.
I posted this the other day, but my stance is this: abortion laws should be completely State-decided legislation. The Federal government can fuck right off.
If I had MY way, abortion would carry the same charges as murder.
But... banning abortion outright is just as bad as what we have now. The Federal government has too much power as it is, and this has ALWAYS overstepped their bounds.
Even entertaining the thought that the Federal government has a say in abortion law is a gross attack on our Constitutional Republic. The Federal government never should have had that power to begin with, so all this legislation on its face is uncouth, unfounded, and un-American.
States were designed by the Founding Fathers to have sole authority on how to govern their citizens, not the Federal government. The Federal government was only supposed to involve themselves with legislation that involves inter-State commerce and relations including Military efforts to ensure States that wanted to be in the Union would be protected.
Anything a State can decide and manage on their own should be off limits. States should be able to succeed and fail on their own; due to their own policies. Abortion policies always fail without Government intervention and funding. The only reason we still have abortion clinics nation-wide is because the Federal Government subsidizes them.
Cut the FED out of this crap and the abortion industry disappears nation-wide overnight.
There are very very very rare cases where abortion would save a woman’s life. Early abortion I agree with you, there needs to be something in place however I think it has more to do with things like partial birth abortion, that is murder! First trimester abortion I believe is still killing a life but if a woman is diagnosed with cancer, many cancers feed off estrogen which is in high supply during pregnancy, or the event of rape -Early abortion, morning after pills etc destroy the egg before it can attach are not like second and third trimester. Getting cancer treatment while pregnant will kill the baby, but waiting moms can die, it’s happened. I have six children and in the impossible chance I was pregnant and faced with a scenario of dying because of a pregnancy or ending a pregnancy I don’t know what I would do. Is it fair to take the risk of leaving six children without a mom? I thank the Lord I’ve never had to face it. However, babies past 21+ weeks have survived, but they kill the babies before they can take breath so they can harvest their parts. If a baby survives an abortion they leave it to die so they can harvest their parts, it is evil. After 15 weeks I do not believe people should be able to abort babies, give them a few more weeks and let them try to survive. That’s not what they want, they want their bodies, their organs, it’s evil, it’s sick! It needs to end! It’s no different than stealing a newborn for their parts.
I think the "where it saves the mother's life" argument is a cop-out, honestly. Very rarely does that happen. Why are we not finding ways to, instead, save both mom and baby?
Even in the cases where mom may be in danger, I think about all of the babies where doctors have stated they'll have an abnormality... and then born perfectly healthy.
Which is why I said very very very rare. I’ve only known of a couple. One, the woman was warned to not get pregnant. She had had multiple c- sections and could not carry another pregnancy. She got pregnant anyway, they warned her not to continue, she did anyway. She died from rupture (risk after csections) I believe, baby survived but left behind like 6 kids. Another case mom diagnosed with cancer, she chose to carry baby as far as she could but she wasn’t able to fight the cancer and died. The baby actually got the cancer, it was a really weird case and shocked medical professionals because they had never seen it. As far as I know baby survived. Having kids is not risk free, having abortions is not risk free. Brain aneurisms, will kill during labor I had a friend who tried over and over to get pregnant and had miscarriage after miscarriage. Heartbroken and angry for years, found out she had an aneurism, it would have killed her. Another friend, almost died with her son, doctors told her she had a genetic issue and another pregnancy would likely kill her so she chose not to have anymore kids. My mother in law almost died after her 4th, they told her she would die if she had anymore and not long after had to have a total hysterectomy. I could never judge another mother facing something like that. I leave that to God however, partial birth abortion is NEVER necessary, it is a form of horrific birth control, population control, and evil! I try not to judge women who have had abortions, I do judge those who pressure, commit the murders, and profit off the carnage. They are evil
Life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. How can an unborn baby enjoy those if his body is destroyed? We need to criminalize abortion, where if it's not proven rape or incest, the guilty can be charged with murder. If it's a case of proven rape or incest and the baby is aborted, then the guilty can get a large fine imposed on them instead. In the case where the mother's health is at risk, every possible means (including experimental means) must be exhausted to save both lives before deciding to end the baby's life; then that wouldn't be counted as an abortion. If a mother really wants to abort her baby, she still (unfortunately) will have the black market back-alley way, yet she'll have to think harder now before doing that and reconsider because even though she could probably get away with it, it would be riskier (heathwise) than before. Plus, she can still be tried as a criminal if the abortion was proven that it occurred, along with the back-alley practitioner, too. These were some of my thoughts over the years on how we should deal with this fairly and constitutionally.
Overturning RvW would remove government regulation that stipulates that abortion must be available.
Abortion, as a requirement to save the mothers life or in other cases will be left up to those that would preform them instead of everyone capable being forced to participate.
This is the gay wedding cake debate all over again. (small potatoes in comparison, I am aware)
The government can not compel people to do something that they do not want to, just as the government cannot compel people to purchase something that they might not wish to buy. Though they do it all the time.
The states must choose themselves how they want to handle this topic without the intervention of "Bigger Brother". People have been forced to choose their livelihoods over their convictions in the past. We cannot allow government to tell people that they will comply with ~murdering the unborn~ {you can insert literally anything in place of this and it remains the same} (regardless how anyone sees it). This is very important because if we allow one avenue of government compelling actions they will only use it to compel more.
No, abortion isn’t a federal overreach issue. As conservatives, we stand for your right to do whatever you want as long as you don’t harm or infringe upon other. Abortion kills another person.
Moreover, this barbaric practice of murdering ones offspring before it can be seen outside the body, is, and never had been, a law by the legislature. It was an unelected judicial body decision that was made "law."
Remember, our government was built with the separate of powers. The judiciary was NEVER designed to make law.
I posted this the other day, but my stance is this: abortion laws should be completely State-decided legislation. The Federal government can fuck right off.
If I had MY way, abortion would carry the same charges as murder.
But... banning abortion outright is just as bad as what we have now. The Federal government has too much power as it is, and this has ALWAYS overstepped their bounds.
Even entertaining the thought that the Federal government has a say in abortion law is a gross attack on our Constitutional Republic. The Federal government never should have had that power to begin with, so all this legislation on its face is uncouth, unfounded, and un-American.
States were designed by the Founding Fathers to have sole authority on how to govern their citizens, not the Federal government. The Federal government was only supposed to involve themselves with legislation that involves inter-State commerce and relations including Military efforts to ensure States that wanted to be in the Union would be protected.
Anything a State can decide and manage on their own should be off limits. States should be able to succeed and fail on their own; due to their own policies. Abortion policies always fail without Government intervention and funding. The only reason we still have abortion clinics nation-wide is because the Federal Government subsidizes them.
Cut the FED out of this crap and the abortion industry disappears nation-wide overnight.
State laws vs federal laws. Important.
There are very very very rare cases where abortion would save a woman’s life. Early abortion I agree with you, there needs to be something in place however I think it has more to do with things like partial birth abortion, that is murder! First trimester abortion I believe is still killing a life but if a woman is diagnosed with cancer, many cancers feed off estrogen which is in high supply during pregnancy, or the event of rape -Early abortion, morning after pills etc destroy the egg before it can attach are not like second and third trimester. Getting cancer treatment while pregnant will kill the baby, but waiting moms can die, it’s happened. I have six children and in the impossible chance I was pregnant and faced with a scenario of dying because of a pregnancy or ending a pregnancy I don’t know what I would do. Is it fair to take the risk of leaving six children without a mom? I thank the Lord I’ve never had to face it. However, babies past 21+ weeks have survived, but they kill the babies before they can take breath so they can harvest their parts. If a baby survives an abortion they leave it to die so they can harvest their parts, it is evil. After 15 weeks I do not believe people should be able to abort babies, give them a few more weeks and let them try to survive. That’s not what they want, they want their bodies, their organs, it’s evil, it’s sick! It needs to end! It’s no different than stealing a newborn for their parts.
I think the "where it saves the mother's life" argument is a cop-out, honestly. Very rarely does that happen. Why are we not finding ways to, instead, save both mom and baby?
Even in the cases where mom may be in danger, I think about all of the babies where doctors have stated they'll have an abnormality... and then born perfectly healthy.
Which is why I said very very very rare. I’ve only known of a couple. One, the woman was warned to not get pregnant. She had had multiple c- sections and could not carry another pregnancy. She got pregnant anyway, they warned her not to continue, she did anyway. She died from rupture (risk after csections) I believe, baby survived but left behind like 6 kids. Another case mom diagnosed with cancer, she chose to carry baby as far as she could but she wasn’t able to fight the cancer and died. The baby actually got the cancer, it was a really weird case and shocked medical professionals because they had never seen it. As far as I know baby survived. Having kids is not risk free, having abortions is not risk free. Brain aneurisms, will kill during labor I had a friend who tried over and over to get pregnant and had miscarriage after miscarriage. Heartbroken and angry for years, found out she had an aneurism, it would have killed her. Another friend, almost died with her son, doctors told her she had a genetic issue and another pregnancy would likely kill her so she chose not to have anymore kids. My mother in law almost died after her 4th, they told her she would die if she had anymore and not long after had to have a total hysterectomy. I could never judge another mother facing something like that. I leave that to God however, partial birth abortion is NEVER necessary, it is a form of horrific birth control, population control, and evil! I try not to judge women who have had abortions, I do judge those who pressure, commit the murders, and profit off the carnage. They are evil
Do I support legal murder?
No.
Next question.
Abortion is evil
Yeah ... I remember when I believed in Santa Claus, too.
Should we loosen government regulations against other forms of murder too?
This is Biblical, our country has turned its back on God. We deserve what is happening.
Life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. How can an unborn baby enjoy those if his body is destroyed? We need to criminalize abortion, where if it's not proven rape or incest, the guilty can be charged with murder. If it's a case of proven rape or incest and the baby is aborted, then the guilty can get a large fine imposed on them instead. In the case where the mother's health is at risk, every possible means (including experimental means) must be exhausted to save both lives before deciding to end the baby's life; then that wouldn't be counted as an abortion. If a mother really wants to abort her baby, she still (unfortunately) will have the black market back-alley way, yet she'll have to think harder now before doing that and reconsider because even though she could probably get away with it, it would be riskier (heathwise) than before. Plus, she can still be tried as a criminal if the abortion was proven that it occurred, along with the back-alley practitioner, too. These were some of my thoughts over the years on how we should deal with this fairly and constitutionally.
Overturning RvW would remove government regulation that stipulates that abortion must be available.
Abortion, as a requirement to save the mothers life or in other cases will be left up to those that would preform them instead of everyone capable being forced to participate.
This is the gay wedding cake debate all over again. (small potatoes in comparison, I am aware)
The government can not compel people to do something that they do not want to, just as the government cannot compel people to purchase something that they might not wish to buy. Though they do it all the time.
The states must choose themselves how they want to handle this topic without the intervention of "Bigger Brother". People have been forced to choose their livelihoods over their convictions in the past. We cannot allow government to tell people that they will comply with ~murdering the unborn~ {you can insert literally anything in place of this and it remains the same} (regardless how anyone sees it). This is very important because if we allow one avenue of government compelling actions they will only use it to compel more.
Seriously? This is your argument. Wow just wow