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Supreme Court to hear oral arguments on challenges to Biden vaccine mandates. What's everyone think? Are we fucked or are we ok? We all know this shit is unconstitutional, but do these justices? (www.foxnews.com)
posted 4 years ago by RustyShackleford777 4 years ago by RustyShackleford777 +49 / -0
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– thephantom1979 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

The Great Reset has too much money behind it. They will pay off judges for sure.

I think the S Court will allow for vaccine mandates.

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– skf93 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

Their unpredictable at this point.

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– Precocious13 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Will this hold precedent for other kinds of medical coercion? If they allow it to stand does it open the door to other, more horrible things? The only one I have confidence in is Clarence Thomas, well, actually Alito as well, but I don't have much hope for the rest.

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– Tewdryg 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

I'm not sure how they will rule. It is clearly unconstitutional. The 5th Circuit Court was correct in stating --

"After the President voiced his displeasure with the country’s vaccination rate in September,12 the Administration pored over the U.S.Code in search of authority, or a “work-around,”13 for imposing a national vaccine mandate. The vehicle it landed on was an OSHA ETS. The statute empowering OSHA allows OSHA to bypass typical notice-and-comment proceedings for six months by providing “for an emergency temporary standard to take immediate effect upon publication in the Federal Register” if it “determines (A) that employees are exposed to grave danger from exposure to substances or agents determined to be toxic or physically harmful or from new hazards, and (B) that such emergency standard is necessary to protect employees from such danger.” 29 U.S.C. § 655(c)(1).

As the name suggests, emergency temporary standards “are an ‘unusual response’ to ‘exceptional circumstances.’” Int’l Chem. Workers, 830 F.2d at 371 (quoting Pub. Citizen Health Rsch. Grp. v. Auchter, 702 F.2d 1150, 1155 (D.C. Cir. 1983)). Thus, courts have uniformly observed that OSHA’s authority to establish emergency temporary standards under § 655(c) “is an ‘extraordinary power’ that is to be ‘delicately exercised’ in only certain ‘limited situations.’” Id. at 370 (quoting Pub. Citizen, 702 F.2d at 1155).14

But the Mandate at issue here is anything but a “delicate[] exercise[]” of this “extraordinary power.” Cf. Pub. Citizen, 702 F.2d at 1155. Quite the opposite, rather than a delicately handled scalpel, the Mandate is a one-size fits-all sledgehammer that makes hardly any attempt to account for differences in workplaces (and workers) that have more than a little bearing on workers’ varying degrees of susceptibility to the supposedly “grave danger” the Mandate purports to address.

13 On September 9, 2021, White House Chief of Staff Ron Klain retweeted MSNBC anchor Stephanie Ruhle’s tweet that stated, “OSHA doing this vaxx mandate as an emergency workplace safety rule is the ultimate work-around for the Federal govt to require vaccinations.” See, e.g., Pet’rs Burnett Specialists, Choice Staffing, LLC, and Staff Force Inc.’s Reply Brief at 4 (emphasis added).

14 The Agency has thus conceded in the past that “[t]he OSH Act does not authorize OSHA to issue sweeping health standards to address entire classes of known and unknown infectious diseases on an emergency basis without notice and comment.” See Department of Labor’s Resp. to the Emergency Pet. for a Writ of Mandamus at 33–34, In re AFL-CIO, No. 20-1158 (D.C. Cir. May 29, 2020) [hereinafter OSHA D.C. Circuit Brief].

It's an abuse of power. If Kavanaugh and SCOTUS disappoints and rules against us, it doesn't end there. We will fight to the last breath and end the OSHA's Temporary Emergency Standard (ETS).

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– slokill 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

They will kick the vax decisions back to the States. OSHA decision who knows. they don't care about the Constitution except Thomas, Alito and one or two others.

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– realeagle 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

It's going to be defeated by a single vote to hide the fact that all of this is a show, as Q said.

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– Eion1830 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Sauce / Q post # plz

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– Factfiler 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Rulings in lower courts appear to be leaning in favor of ruling against the mandate. I think we're good on this and will really turn the tide. Of course if the judges are compromised, we're looking at another obamacare passage event, only much, much worse.

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– BigDisGoat 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

We fucked with those cucked puppets ..

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– Tredlitely 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Given Kavenaugh and ABC’s track record we are screwed unless they’ve been pretending to be pretend conservative constitutionalist gone liberal. Quite the disappointments to date.

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– CookingGrams1 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

If they let it go through, will this be the precipice that will push the masses? I am having trouble believing anything will wake up most people anymore. I think more than 4 to 6 % of the population is lost for good. I just want to grab people and jam the freaking red pill right up their @$$ at this point so that it is absorbed faster. Losing patience and ready to start throwing tea in a harbor.

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– RustyShackleford777 [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I agree, I don't see how things haven't popped off yet at this point. Putting 100 million+ Americans out of work would certainly be a tipping point.

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– TexasPatriot57 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

They’re compromised, we’re fucked.

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