"...but if you want to know who is responsible, you need only look into a mirror"
Remember when we rallied against Leftists and Progressives snaking their way into education and our local political establishments? Remember when after 2016 we mobilized in our local precincts to support our President at the local level? Remember when we rallied behind MAGA candidates in the 2018 House and Senate races? Remember after 2018 when we demanded audits and to fix our elections?
No. We didn't do any of that. We voted for Trump in 2016 and went on with our lives. Now granted, by design our system is SUPPOSED to be transparent and easy. It's supposed to leave us be and let us go about our lives. Problem is that is only as good as the people we elect or worse the ones we don't elect, but did fuck all to stop. The hard reality is, frens, we deserve this. We deserve the hardship and the pain. We got lazy and complacent and now we're paying for it and rightly so. There really was no other way. If Trump was still in office we wouldn't be here. We'd probably be doing other things that we were convinced were more important. We let them convince us that both parents working and 40+ hours a week while the state raises our kids is acceptable. Instead of maybe hearing out what some of the anti-work folks had to say we listened to the propaganda that hard work is a good thing. And while still somewhat true, that also depends on the hard work. Climbing the corporate ladder is not work. That's playing into and perpetuating the system. The "hard work" we were designed for was for our survival. Farming. Hunting and so fourth. This society is a giant illusion. A lie. Everything it values is vainglorious and has no substance. The entertainment is as fake as the relationships. Everything about this system is designed to fracture the family unit and destroy everything good God established. We don't need corporations. In fact 2020 proved the necessity for laws against them. As well as more economic regulations that protect workers and small businesses and wrangle in corporations and keep them in line. At present our system is the other way around, but of course saying so is communistic or some dumb fuckin boomer tier shit.
Part of the Great Awakening is awakening to the reality that we have more in common with the average BLM supporter and or lefty than we do any politician including Trump. Most leftists abandoned their stances when they are shown the truth. But the right wing is also playing a role in the division. Remember when Liberals said Iraq was about oil? Turns out they weren't entirely wrong. They just didn't know about the implications of the USD being the world's reserve currency. And when Saddam (who was still a piece of shit, btw. No saintly person by any measure) dared to trade outside the dollar, well... we can't have that. Point being we need to be uniting on common ground. There is no point in shilling for cutthroat capitalism, but communism and socialism aren't the answer either. However, there are good aspects to all of them. Programs for healthcare should be available for workers who want to pay into them. But should not be required, however you'll be liable for your expenses. At the same time, we do need to look into regulating healthcare. $30,000 for one hospital stay is insane. Unregulated capitalism makes sense for individuals and maybe small businesses. You should keep what you earn at your discretion. Major corps and businesses however MUST be regulated. Jefferson would have led a revolt against this corporate tyranny a long time ago. And of course most importantly, decentralized currency. Now.
This ran longer than I anticipated. Oh well. The most important thing we need to reestablish is the basic essentials of individual liberty. Jefferson for all his faults as a man was right on all his ideas. That is what will win people over regardless of the color of their hair. Most people just want to live their lives uninhibited and without persecution. Most people end up agreeing that forcing the issues is wrong. And well... that's cause it is. Does not matter if it's the teachings of Jesus or Trans rights, if you force it on people, or rather force people to accept it you are a fascist. This is not to be conflated with people expressing their views. An evolved society freely exchanges ideas good and bad. And we defeat ideas we disagree with, with better ideas and if we can't defeat them then... it probably means our ideas aren't as good which can be another hard truth to accept. We are not here to exert dominion on other people. That is what faggots do. In fact that is my rebranding of faggot: someone who attempts to exert dominion on another. Some might argue Jesus in this, but the way He's laid it out, people choose Him willingly so that's not forcing anything and also I think the Kingdom of Heaven isn't going to be anything that anyone has ever assumed or implied. We really don't know and that is okay.
Figure out what you need to ride out the rest of this and make sure to learn from the past so when we defeat this evil it can finally stick. They cycle of good times and hard times needs to end forever. We can and will establish a transparent system that actually does give people a fair shot and prevents corporate slavery and lets every American live how they wish. You cannot force people to accept what they aren't comfortable with. But we don't have to be rude either. Much love and encouragement to you all. The best is indeed yet to come.
Not sure I agree that 30,000 for healthcare is because its not regulated enough. Everything "regulated" is a scam. Banks, Healthcare, Education, you name it.
The answer is not regulation, but LAWS. Congress is supposed to pass LAWS that are short enough to read and understand. Article II of the Constitution makes drafting laws Congress' exclusive right and obligation.
But what they do instead is pass behemoth monstrosities that in turn delegate the "rule making" to an executive branch bureaucrat, usually the "Secretary" of HHS, EPA, whatever alphabet soup agency you can think of. Then the unelected unaccountable "implementing agency" drafts their own 3,000 page regulations. Which is what "we have to pass it to find out what's in it" really means. She wasn't joking and did not misspeak. This is how it is done now, as a matter of course.
Per James Madison, "It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood." We are now a country of men and not laws. You and I and everyone we know is guilty of some regulatory offense. The deep state just has to pick a target and then find the offense. Easy peasy.
Per James Madison, "It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood."
I propose this as a start toward a solution:
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I hate the term "common sense regulations" but that is what I mean. Ones specifically targeted at preventing corporate corruption and tyranny like Anti Trust laws (a socialist concept, btw).
You raise a point in that we need to ban corporate lobbying at least for a time. Definitely need anti corruption laws that carry a minimum of the noose. If you use government for personal gain, especially at the expense of others you need to swing.
I agree. Treason has been desensitized like we've been desensitized to violence on TV. No big deal. It's all fake. Go on. For the worst offense committed it sure seems to come with a lot of red tape. Treason is treason. You hang. Simple.
The laws are there; in fact there a millions of laws. They are not obeyed. The Constitution is ignored. Get obedience or recall or indictment. Must get back to common law, our rightful situation.
Um a lot of us were doing all of those things bc Ron Paul said to and we've been actively engaged in reclaiming the Republic along the Drs plan since 2007. Trump people pretend this is like a new plan and not a new leader on the cover sheet of the playbook.
^ This! Best description of Q I've seen a while.
Also this: "Acting like your fren and neighbor is to blame because they didn't get mad enough in 1992 over voting machines, or didn't run for PTA president last year . . ." And, really, all the rest of your comment.
You're on a roll here, Rooftop. Most Cabal victims are innocents [long discussion being bypassed here] and that's not even counting the millions of children. Thanks for standing up for them.
Eve was the first victim of the cabal and God still cast her out of the Garden.
For disobedience.
But why would a five-year-old forced to get the jab be cast out? For that matter, why would a 35-year-old mother be "cast out" who simply believes what her doctor, her pastor, her parents, and every voice she hears on television tells her about the NEED for the vaccine to help PROTECT OTHERS as well as herself?
This will be heretical to many here, but I don't think God's mercy and concern, for that matter, is applied on an individual basis. If it were, the natural world wouldn't consist of predators and prey and wouldn't include horrifying diseases and other problems that have cut lives short since the dawn of our kind (if you were creating a video game world with players who felt and could suffer, would YOU do that?).
Some people -- MANY people, actually -- become victims through no fault of their own.
God measures each person individually, because each person is unique. I’ve been very blessed so I better make good use of my situation. Children born into what is basically hell will not be held to my standard. Of course God’s concerned about each of us. He knows that He can’t change free will - that may be the only thing that is truly ours. Not even God can take it away. He knew we would suffer - that is the purpose of life: to see how we manage in the face of mortality.
It’s no accident that the Ultimate Hero was someone who unfairly suffered all things in Gethsemane, paid for our sins, was hung on a cross and tortured. The Guy who deserved it the least suffered the most. The Guy we’re supposed to follow, and be like. When faced with suffering He said, “Bring it on.” It’s a model for transcending our own suffering - voluntarily pick it up and carry it. Satan is the opposite. He whines and complains like a little b**** when he suffers from his own dumb mistakes.
Sorry for the soap box. I appreciate you giving it a read. Best of luck with everything friend. Bear your cross. Keep your faith in Christ.
Excellent.
Thank you for the kind reply. Best wishes to you also.
Disobedience, yet it says that all of creation was made subject to futility, NOT WILLINGLY...
This means that God had already ordained the fall. For what? So that we would hope on the One who did it. Read proverbs and you'll learn a lot about the theory of "free will."
She CHOSE to disbelieve God. She was not a victim.
Well said.
Oh you were cool before it was cool? How well did that work for you? So why didn't you do anything to stop Obama or Romney? Why couldn't you get the support necessary to topple the 16 year plan without Trump? How many Ron Paul operatives got into positions of power at the local level?
I hear what you're saying and do believe Paul was screwed out of the Primary in 2012. However, I didn't see any effort from the lolbertarians to actually effect change. In fact it seems all of you gave up in 2012. I mean I did too, but I accept that I still contributed to this mess. It appears you're still in denial.
Media blackout does not magically hide the fact that the lolbertarians are and always will be a joke. Those same folks literally give up the second the fight actually requires them to do something. You know how many people lolbertarian and Republican alike who gave me the "I'm just too busy to follow politics" excuse. Wonder how many of the same person on this board crying over "muh house and car".
Now let me clear up your misrepresentation of my stance. I am saying it's our fault as a call for personal responsibility. You should be making friends and uniting with your neighbors if you aren't already. But this does not mean that as a movement we aren't politically lazy and complacent. The lolbertarians accepted the game was rigged and did fuck all to challenge it. Again, I also didn't see them take any local precincts or start a grassroots movement the likes of what we are seeing now. Why? Because as discussed time and again on this sub only at the precipice do people make the necessary changes and well... clearly it took having 2020 stolen to FINALLY whip our asses into shape. And rightly so. We may have been "tricked" and manipulated, but so too was Eve in the Garden. God didn't accept their excuse so I completely reject yours and everyone else's. If we really want to change for the better we need to look at ourselves and evaluate what we're doing and how we're approaching. Me, I'm going back to the basics of how I interact with people, even in online games. It's a struggle, but I really am a douche and it's better to accept that and try to work through it than pretend I am someone I am not.
All that said, when this is over I want an easy system that is transparent and doesn't require 24/7 news coverage to participate in. Our time on this Earth is precious so no I don't hold anger or resentment towards those who didn't do anything either and I get it. Our system is a fucking slog. It's designed to demoralize and pacify you. I don't want to hammer on the past as much. I have said what I said and the only was is forward. V also said that "some are certainly more responsible than others" and those are the ones that get my anger and resentment. The ones complaining about their situation and jobs simply don't get my sympathy, but they don't get my anger either. For one, plenty of jobs out there. In fact anyone forced to make a career change should seek out something that doesn't perpetuate this evil system. For two, you CAN get involved locally and make a change. And if you aren't happy then exhaust all legal efforts. And that there is where people give up. I understand our system is a pain in the ass to navigate legally, but again, choosing not to fight through it IS the same as giving up altogether and again, making excuses for complacency.
We're sinful, selfish beings. We deserve hell. It is by Grace that we won't get it, by Grace we have had the very lush and luxurious life and by that Grace we will share the good life with the world here soon. Again, my post is about self evaluation. I certainly hold no resentment towards anyone who just wanted to live their lives... however it is because of that we got to where we are now. The cabal continued to exploit the same opportunity. That cycle MUST end. If it doesn't then what we do is pointless regardless and I lived in that mindset for a time... I'd rather not go back.
The 2 counties in nj in which i primarily am engaged as a citizen, the organizing locals are all Ron Paul era friends.
It doesnt matter tho bc the elections are fake
And what are you doing to right the wrong. The common theme in and the reason I stopped being a lolbertarian is because you guys accept defeat and do fuck all to actually change anything. Lolbertarians are the party of self-awre do nothingers.
Not buying it. I have tried hard to turn the tides of crap fir decades. I have apologized to citizens in other countries saying the American people don't want to bomb ypu, our government is out of control. This has been a problem that the people could not change by design... Too many sleepers. Imagine: your in the matrix movie, wake up, and see all of the sleepers. No way to wake them up... Life sucked!
The idea that the solution to our problems is to change or eliminate other people is a very dangerous idea indeed. It turns ‘good people’ into monsters, the 20th Century showed us how that happens. That is the bedrock of Western Civilization - individual sovereignty, individual responsibility. BOTH sovereignty and responsibility are decentralized all the way down to the level of the individual.
Is there a Cabal of Luciferians standing on our necks? Yes. Is there something we could do about it (but I’ve not yet done) that would make our situation just a little bit better? Yes, probably many things. Complaining about a Cabal does not strengthen us. We have to all lift where we stand. Together we can change the world.
“Saving the world is not a yes or no proposition. We’re all saving the world to some degree every day, and destroying it to some degree every day. Even an action as seemingly binary and discrete as diverting an asteroid from its path depends on many decisions long before that point in many different systems, and it creates repercussions, some of which are far in the future and can’t be foreseen. Saving humanity is a good thing, but it’s never a simple thing, and it can’t be crossed off a to-do list, by a giant worm or by anyone else.”
https://www.tor.com/2018/11/07/the-one-book-that-made-me-take-the-long-view-of-the-future-god-emperor-of-dune/
Giant worm is in reference to the God Emperor of the Dune series.
You wrote a lot and put a lot of thought into it. I do have one point--a lot of us wanted politicians is that would go against this, like conservative republicans--we then found out they weren't the opposition but part of the collusion. We, out here, in America didn't have many choices--we selected the best we could and they turned on us. This is not all our fault. Most definitely more people are "awake" today and realize most of the politicians are in the uniparty. However, not many expected paul ryan to fold, mitch mcconnell to go with the commies, etc. We don't elect the head of the senate or the houise.
I don’t know if I agree with the whole thing but I definitely agree we got here on our own, and we have to get out on our own. We allowed them to gain this much ground, right under our noses. Granted they were incredibly clever; and boiled the frog extremely, extremely slowly over about 75 years. We were up against pure evil and didn’t realize it. But we do now
Not that I agree with all of this but what we are, we are human and we make mistakes... Hopefully it's not to late to correct those mistakes?
Time to take action and responsibility for what needs to be DONE
Deport my post and put "sticky please" in "other"
I will never disparage anyone for their ethnicity or sexual identity. That is the most stupid fucking reason to not like someone and certainly no excuse to put someone down. Ever.
I do believe strongly in rebranding and what word gets "tyrannical fuckwit" across while also reducing them to the pieces of shit that they are better than "faggot"? ...and yes I do use it to describe people who irritate me. But that's more just petty indulgence. Again no assumption of sexual orientation or identity.
Can't you see how people would see using that term as a very negative thing though? Sure, you may be trying to rebrand it to mean tyrannical fuckwit, but for generations it's been a slur against homosexuals. It carries much more negative weight as that than anything else. If you truly would not disparage someone for their race or sexuality, you should consider not using the term faggot at all. It's something used in hate for most of its recent history as a word, and those negative connotations aren't easy to lose no matter how much you try to reclaim the word. Just my two cents, as I try to live my life in love and acceptance despite how common using that word is here on this board. Live out the ideals you claim to hold.