New Bill Will Make It A Crime To Ask Someone Their Vaccination Status
(redstatenation.com)
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I think it was already a crime to request private medical data
It is not. At all.
For a medical professional, it is a crime to reveal medical data without the patient's consent.
Anyone can ask for data and anyone can reveal their own data or allow others to reveal it on their behalf.
I thought Hipaa laws covered that.
Hippa only applies to the medical field
not exactly... fiance had an employer try to get private medical info, went to the doctor to try to get it for them, guy almost came unglued, ended up reading the employer the riot act over the phone. Told my fiance to let him know if they pulled that shit again.(my words)
Apparently, they'd done it before
A crime to ASK? No, just as it should not be a crime to not answer personal questions. Free speech should not be a crime.
Exactly this. Some people here want a different kind of tyranny.
Do you think it should be legal for an employer to ask employees their religion? Race? Gender? Sexual orientation or marital status? So far these are also illegal questions for an employer to ask. Personally I believe there should be some off limits questions, even if it crosses free speech. There are limits to free speech such as making threats to folks lives. Idk what do you think? I think vaccination status should be an off limits question by employer. Liability of infectious disease (such as HIV) should belong to the individual only if they knowingly spread the virus.
Those are my thoughts on that topic
Think you're misunderstanding the proposed law. They're not talking about if two private citizens ask each other their vaxx status, they're talking about businesses asking, then using it as an excuse to refuse service, employment etc.
Why should a private business not have the right to free speech?
Why should a private business not have the right to refuse service?
if it's straight up discrimination then that's bad. refusing service based on stuff like religious beliefs I can understand, but discrimination based on anything, including partaking in medical experiments, is wrong.
What if the business believes that the unvaccinated pose a direct health threat to their employees or their families? Should they be forced to put aside their beliefs?
Conversely, if you believe that the vaccinated shed spike proteins that could harm yourself or your employees, should you be forced to cater to them?
honestly idk, those aren't easy questions to answer. however in this context where the vaccine is experimental then it IS wrong to discriminate against people for their vaccination status.
But it's not wrong, because they are not simply discriminating based on a personal difference, and certainly not just different opinions.
They are defending themselves based on the belief of potential harm to their business or employees or customers. No business wants to shut down for two weeks because all their employees are sick. No business wants to be responsible for putting their customers in danger.
How can you argue that you have a right to service when it might put others in harm's way?
As for "experimental" status, no medication that is one year old can be guaranteed against longer term side effects. It's literally not possible. But your fear that the vaccine is dangerous does not override their fear that the virus is dangerous. At the same time, if you want to say "it's just a flu" they get to say "it's just a vaccine" and you have to accept that.
I see your point, but the problem is what happens when the only grocery store within an hour's drive wont serve the unvaccinated? What happens when every store takes that stance? I realize there are alternatives, but at what point does the burden become onerous upon the individual?
Large businesses especially have the power to enforce their will on the populace in much the same way governments do. On the other hand, overregulation is as harmful as well...
Thanks for this one =) Imma half to chew on this for a while..
Really the simple answer is that if that grocery store doesn't want to cater to the unvaccinated, but were told they couldn't discriminate on those grounds, they could just close for everyone, right? And, if every store decided to do that, what would you do?
The point is you don't have a right to service (no shirt, no shoes, no vaccine, etc). This isn't Soviet Russia. The government doesn't give you a job and tell you to do it no matter what.
Basically, if they want your business, they will concede, but they should not be forced to.
You could always open your own grocery store. Just think of the giant untapped market for the unvaccinated. It's literally the American way.
They can ask, but I'm under no obligation to tell or be penalized if they don't like the answer.
More like they can ask, you are under no obligation to tell, and they are under no obligation to do business with you regardless of your response. You know, freedom and all.
Good! It never used to be anyone's business, until the self-righteous, holier than thou, masked up, paranoid, covid obsessed karens felt they were entitled to know.
I can’t help but feel like the laws already written up should be sufficient for this situation. I believe businesses are simply ignoring the law and lawyers are afraid to touch it for some reason? Someone with balls needs to step up and break the seal.
not gonna lie, I'm almost disappointed my employer never tried to mandate the vaccine... I was so looking forward to suing their pants off, lmao...
Lol thats funny I get it
Yea I don’t know how I feel about making more laws and regulations. You know they always come back and bite you in the ass in another situation. I’m pretty sure medical discrimination should be covered in the disabilities act somewhere.
You can ask me. I'll gladly make you wish you hadn't.
Sounds like a slippery slope.
Now do Texas