At what point do some to most stop? Is there at all any point this is possible or will the gov simply recycle with the desperate for a job?
As far as I see it, there are so many people who don't give a fuck about anything but a pay check that for the gov it would be like fishing with dynamite getting more order takers even if the current ones say "no more".
Let's face it, the time for the DS to make their move is coming very fast. It exponentially sped up when the Convoy in Canada parked.
I'm seeing clips of cops walking around intimidating people, stealing gas, stealing fire wood, arresting old men. Now I know those are Canadian cops but are our cops really any different? NY cops arrest kids for no mask or vax pass on a daily basis. I mean they cuff em and process them. Were talking 10 year olds. No issues whatsoever they just "do muh job". Seriously. What the fuck is wrong with these people?
Behavior wise I don't see any different between Canadian/American/European Leos.
What's with these guys?
I am not referring to small town and rural cops. I want to know if any current or former LEO's think these guys have any integrity at all.
Not former military or LE..... but I personally think the vast majority will obey orders (their entire structure is built on obeying orders), until there is a full out civil war/ society breakdown. At that time, there would be factions that spit off, but up until that line, THEY WILL COMPLY.
The key is who is issuing the orders. In many rural, suburban areas in red states, and generally places where sanity still exists and progressives haven’t taken over, the police will act in a good way, because they people issuing orders won’t take it too far.
In blue cities and states, all bets are off.
This is where I lean as well. I think two years ago we conservatives were quite fond of the institution of policing but that trust has been shattered. Obliterated in fact.
Those issuing orders have families, right? Cops as well. And any rural area, even in blue states, has a rather large contingent of hunters with bolt actions and scopes who can pick targets at distances cops are not equipped to deal with. Many sheriff's departments, even in blue states, are not "blue" to begin with and may simply stay neutral if not joining the people.
All of this was already discussed years ago on other forums. Cops will be the least problem even if they decide to go stupid. NG is a crap shoot at this point, but same as cops, most have families and choices they make will dictate what we have to deal with, and how.
I’ll say right up, it depends on their Chief really. In Northern Cali, thee bluest State, our Sheriff’s from Sacramento north are all elected officials. And they’ve all been very generous in middle fingers to Gavin NewScum and ALL other politicians by not enforcing any ridiculous “mandates”, or clearly unlawful orders. Since they are elected officials, protected by recall or voting removal only, they have the legal power to say NO! But outside of that, I can’t say much more than it depends on the chief having the balls to use “obstruction of justice” against stupid politicians and in turn arresting them for ordering illegal or unlawful stupid crap.
Sheriffs of So Cal (Riverside, Ventura, L.A.) have openly rejected enforcing masks and other BS like private gathering restrictions. Los Angeles County Sheriff has also been very proactive in holding public meetings to encourage people to get involved in politics, like recalling the crime-promoting D.A.
City police are hit-or-miss. Some cities are managing well, others are using mask violations as a source of revenue.
I'm in Yolo, and getting a CCW in Yolo is almost impossible, and this tells me Yolo is deep blue.
One other point about Sacramento itself, not sure if you recall, but DA, can't recall her name, was being intimidated by Antifa last year, and she came down on them, hard, after making her point on TV, which was awesome to see when Antifa was heckled by people on streets afterwards. So, not only Sheriffs, but even some politicos in Sac to North are on red(der) side. And to the West as well, Rte. 50 West is all red, all the way to Tahoe.
The Milligram experiments pretty well answered this question.
Look at history. They will comply. In Canada they're stealing gasoline. Food next.
Our LE is being replaced with DS demons This will be the problem!