Unpopular opinion: Russia isn't the "good guy", but they are leveraging the US biolab exposure against Biden. And they should. These bioweapons labs need to be erased from existence.
However, it does not give them moral authority to take Ukraine by military force.
Sure it does. You are leaving out the genocide being conducted against the ethnic Russians in east Ukraine. When a nation goes to war against its own citizens (13,000-14,000 killed), it loses any moral legitimacy. Anyone has the right to bring them to heel. (Kitty Genovese problem: there's a murder being accomplished in plain sight on the sidewalk. Do we walk on by?) Remember that governments obtain their power only from the consent of the governed. Russia does not need to have clean hands if Ukraine has dirty hands.
It’s funny how people were perfectly fine with Soviet republics breaking away, but as soon as Russia helps break-away Ukrainians republics get some freedom Russia is the evil scourge of the Earth.
Kitty Genovese problem: there's a murder being accomplished in plain sight on the sidewalk. Do we walk on by?
That's an oversimplification. In this case, the alleged murdered and victim had been trying to kill each other for years, the 'person walking by' has a historical beef with the alleged murderer, and has everything to gain, personally, by intervening, and has no right to be on the sidewalk in the first place.
Russia does not need to have clean hands if Ukraine has dirty hands
So therefore Russia has the "right" to invade the US for it's bioweapons production on Russia's borders, economic warfare and perceived historical conflict?
This is all perspective. One person's freedom fighters is anothers' rebel.
No. Russia (1) has the right to intervene and stop genocide...because the Ukraine has no right to commit genocide. By the way, "Russia" is not a person with a continuity of consciousness. Their ethnic relatives were/are the victims of the genocide. They were not "trying to kill each other for years." Russia (2) has the right to intervene and neutralize weapons of mass destruction while they are at it, since neither the Ukraine nor the U.S. was supposed to have any, by their own agreement to a treaty of prohibition. That was a good enough rationale for the U.S. to invade Iraq, halfway around the world. This is right across Russia's border.
Don't bother to stretch the case to absurd dimensions. It is not a matter of taste. The presence of genocide and bioweapons forfeit Ukraine's sovereignty. The killer of Kitty Genovese does not get to protest "Hey, I'm minding my own business. Get out of my space."
There are citizens in Russia that don’t like their government is doing just like how there are US citizens that don’t like what the US government is doing. I like your point. Just because Russia’s opponent is doing something wrong doesn’t mean Russia gets a blank moral check to be justified in whatever means of retaliation that they choose.
Russian citizens are fine with what Putin is doing in Ukraine from what I understand. They don't want a cauldron of biological weapons simmering on their border.
They also strongly support the annexation of Crimea (92%), because Crimea is Russian.
The Department of Defense specifically rejected the EcoHealth Alliance's proposal to engage in Gain of Function research because they deemed it far too dangerous.
We can't even count the number of tines top brass or high level executives went behind Trump's back and lied or deceived him.
Check out the time those couple of top military/Pentagon personnel lied to Trump about how many troops were in Afghanistan in order to hinder his plans to withdraw them and return them back home.
Patriots - Let's stop using this unbelievably sanitized psy-op name and call it what it is:
GAIN OF DANGER, or GOD research
They think they are GOD, and they want to control the world's population, so they conduct Gain of Danger research to make pathogens more dangerous, more spreadable, more toxic.
Unpopular opinion: Russia isn't the "good guy", but they are leveraging the US biolab exposure against Biden. And they should. These bioweapons labs need to be erased from existence.
However, it does not give them moral authority to take Ukraine by military force.
Sure it does. You are leaving out the genocide being conducted against the ethnic Russians in east Ukraine. When a nation goes to war against its own citizens (13,000-14,000 killed), it loses any moral legitimacy. Anyone has the right to bring them to heel. (Kitty Genovese problem: there's a murder being accomplished in plain sight on the sidewalk. Do we walk on by?) Remember that governments obtain their power only from the consent of the governed. Russia does not need to have clean hands if Ukraine has dirty hands.
It’s funny how people were perfectly fine with Soviet republics breaking away, but as soon as Russia helps break-away Ukrainians republics get some freedom Russia is the evil scourge of the Earth.
That's a good way of putting it. Thanks for sharing, fren.
Since we are all about "sauce,":--- sauce for goose = sauce for gander
That's an oversimplification. In this case, the alleged murdered and victim had been trying to kill each other for years, the 'person walking by' has a historical beef with the alleged murderer, and has everything to gain, personally, by intervening, and has no right to be on the sidewalk in the first place.
So therefore Russia has the "right" to invade the US for it's bioweapons production on Russia's borders, economic warfare and perceived historical conflict?
This is all perspective. One person's freedom fighters is anothers' rebel.
No. Russia (1) has the right to intervene and stop genocide...because the Ukraine has no right to commit genocide. By the way, "Russia" is not a person with a continuity of consciousness. Their ethnic relatives were/are the victims of the genocide. They were not "trying to kill each other for years." Russia (2) has the right to intervene and neutralize weapons of mass destruction while they are at it, since neither the Ukraine nor the U.S. was supposed to have any, by their own agreement to a treaty of prohibition. That was a good enough rationale for the U.S. to invade Iraq, halfway around the world. This is right across Russia's border.
Don't bother to stretch the case to absurd dimensions. It is not a matter of taste. The presence of genocide and bioweapons forfeit Ukraine's sovereignty. The killer of Kitty Genovese does not get to protest "Hey, I'm minding my own business. Get out of my space."
And I'm the one stretching the case to "absurd dimensions"? Lol
Now do China.
True, incorrect opinions are often unpopular.
There are citizens in Russia that don’t like their government is doing just like how there are US citizens that don’t like what the US government is doing. I like your point. Just because Russia’s opponent is doing something wrong doesn’t mean Russia gets a blank moral check to be justified in whatever means of retaliation that they choose.
Russian citizens are fine with what Putin is doing in Ukraine from what I understand. They don't want a cauldron of biological weapons simmering on their border.
They also strongly support the annexation of Crimea (92%), because Crimea is Russian.
The labs would have existed and continued to exist all throughout Trump's administration. Why didn't he shut them down, or try to?
He got impeached for even asking anything about Ukraine.
The Department of Defense specifically rejected the EcoHealth Alliance's proposal to engage in Gain of Function research because they deemed it far too dangerous.
We can't even count the number of tines top brass or high level executives went behind Trump's back and lied or deceived him.
Check out the time those couple of top military/Pentagon personnel lied to Trump about how many troops were in Afghanistan in order to hinder his plans to withdraw them and return them back home.
Patriots - Let's stop using this unbelievably sanitized psy-op name and call it what it is:
GAIN OF DANGER, or GOD research
They think they are GOD, and they want to control the world's population, so they conduct Gain of Danger research to make pathogens more dangerous, more spreadable, more toxic.