I am sure others struggle with this.. Thanks
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Since you're asserting the other narratives are false, I will assert that the bible and its narratives are as well.
You're a slave to a system of thought policing and victimization. Doubt is shunned and real truth never, ever derides doubt. Doubt is a motivator that leads to scrutiny and a pursuit of truth that once verified only re-enforces the truth. Truth should welcome doubt.
These verses are something a cult leader would say to keep their secrets hidden and the scheme alive. But since it's coming from "God's book." It's okay.
The biggest conspiracy out there is organized religion. But fortunately, its days are numbered.
The things we are talking about were/have never been explained to me from the pulpit or through my Christian private school education. Ministers/priest, what have you, are not so willing to have this conversation in front of a congregation out of fear of alienating or confusing their people.
I came to my understanding through conversation, reading, prayer and thought. Similar to what you and I are doing right now.
I have never been someone that anyone would look up too as an example of how a Christian should behave. Regardless of what I was taught in my younger life I still questioned and for the most part behaved like a non-believer.
So, if the Koolaide was past by me I obviously did not drink from it. Because who wants Koolaide when there’s plenty of beer, whiskey, wine and blow🤷🏻♂️. As I aged I realized all of those good time vices brought me nothing, but pain and misery. It wasn’t until I went searching for a more meaningful existence that I came back to God. Even then it wasn't a ground shaking life altering event. It took me years to come to a comfortable understanding of God.
It seems like you have a problem with religion and not so much God.
If that’s true, I GET IT.
Great comment. Yeah, I grew up in the church and after 25 years I left.
On the planet I live on, we judge people based on their behaviors not their beliefs. Ask your deity to use that system instead and let me know what he/she/they say.
To clarify, I’m not asserting the other narratives are false. Honestly, I don’t know.
More importantly to me, I don’t “believe” out of fear of what will happen to me if I die not believing. I chose to believe because I believe there is a God that created this existence and to me that is the God of Abraham and much more.
And you worship a deity that wants to punish me for simply concluding the wrong thing? Do you understand how that's divisive and somewhat offensive? Do you have a torture chamber in your basement? Why not? You worship a deity that created, engineered and implemented one for people guilty of wrong think (OMG anything but THAT!). Seems to me people that think this is okay and actually worship this being should be looked into for everyone else's safety. After all, you endorse torture in certain circumstances... It exposes primitive thinking... Like Muslims revering a mass-murdering pedo they call Mohammad. Hopefully, you can see how many of us on the outside are concerned that this world-view is not only common, it's endorsed. Uhhhh....
Regardless, being wrong despite sincere pursuit and honest searching is worthy of death? Uhh.... Welcome to being human? We're fucking wrong about shit all the time and that's even with things we can observe. But I'm supposed to be right about my opinions from an ancient text with questionable origins and extraordinary claims(council of Nicea)? Uhhh...
Nothing about that is "all loving." Especially once one understands how beliefs work.
It's a sharp ideology (Christianity). It's got a lot of people fooled because it cloaks its evil rather well. But it's still evil.
I told you Dante came up with the idea that hell was full of fire.
Also, I have struggled with knowing that humans are born with innate characteristics that seem to very much hinder some from believing. Some will be born with very little curiosity, so how does that help a person who was born in a Muslim society come to Christ, I don’t know🤷🏻♂️.
That and a whole lot of other “I don’t knows” don’t stop me from believing.
Also, the things in the New Testament that we are suppose to live by are not constricting to me. There’s nothing in the 10 commandments that I don’t aspire for on a daily basis. Yet, I fail.
But, those failures do not define me. Nor do they keep me from God. If anything, they pull me closer.
I'm not concerned with the origins of hell, to me, it's not scriptural at all... I just take issue with the morality of people who believe in it and endorse it.
Don't covet your neighbors donkey, bro!!!