To recap on the relevant part of the movie for this. In the movie, the final plan that Ramius and the Americans decided on (and the best plan if it were to work) was to have Ramius defect to the USA with the Red October submarine while convincing the Soviets that the Red October had been sunk and destroyed.
Ramius had an option to get off of the Red October along with the rest of his crew when he engineered the nuclear problem (see Part I).
However, he did not choose this option. Let’s imagine the chain of events had he taken this option. Moscow had asked the USA to intervene and shoot down the Red October on the premise that Ramius went rogue and wanted to fire nukes at the USA.
If Ramius had successfully defected to the USA and Moscow knew about it, Moscow would not be able to save face. Both the Soviets and the USA would know about the “caterpillar” technology the Soviets developed with the purpose of having nuclear warheads reach American shores undetected.
Moscow would then feel equally unsafe about the Red October being in the hands of the Americans. Nuclear tensions between the two countries would have gone through the roof and diplomatic relations could have broken down.
The consequences would have been incalculable. Ramius plan to remain inside the Red October to stage a “false flag” sinking of his own sub would have been the highest “yield” solution for both countries and for himself.
So how does this relate to Zelensky, Putin, Trump and the war in Ukraine right now?
My hypothesis is based on the premise that the current war is according to the plans of Trump and that Zelensky is not who he seems to be.
If you are of the view that Zelensky if simply a hypocrite or a defender of the deep state and are unwilling to entertain another possibility, then you should read no further.
First, the background of Zelensky. He was born and raised in Kryvyi Rih as a Russian speaker. He only learned Ukrainian and English afterwards.
His grandfather fought in the Red Army against the Nazis in the Second World War. His grandfather’s three other brothers all died by the Nazis.
Zelensky’s main platform for winning the election was to bring about a peace deal in Eastern Ukraine or the Donbass region.
Now let’s assume Zelensky genuinely wants peace in Donbass. When he came to power, what would have stopped him if he just wanted to make a straight deal with the Russians for peace?
The answer is very public now but it wasn’t so obvious back then to everybody in the West. The Nazis, Azov battalion, other rogue fighter groups, extremists in Ukraine financed by the US Deep State essentially would hold a legitimate Ukrainian government hostage.
Why couldn’t Trump just solve the problem himself you might ask?
Root out the evils in Ukraine while he was still in office and had power. Think about how dangerous that would have been for Trump had the current story not fully come out?
Kolomoisky and Soros funding of the Nazis would have done their best to push Russia into action in Ukraine. What could Trump do at that point? Bioweapons released for false flag attacks by the Russians, the media screaming Russian collusion.
It would be a horrible situation to be in. It had to be this way. Trump had to step away to let the Deep State reveal itself.
Now that we have the context of the whole situation in view, what can we begin to see?
We can begin to see what we need to get from this Ukraine war in the big picture of things.
We need to reveal the extent of Biden and Deep State corruption in the Ukraine.
We need to destroy the Nazi army occupation in the Ukraine.
We need to neutralize the biolabs in Ukraine to prevent false flags and another pandemic from happening.
There’s probably more that we cannot see, but what we can see is more than enough to paint the picture.
The evil that resides in Ukraine is our Red October.
Hence, Zelensky or Putin can fill the role of Ramius in our story.
Remember the posts that Zelensky was actually communicating with Putin in telling him exactly where to bomb?
Of course, none of this can be confirmed. There are things that will never be revealed to the public. But I have a feeling that by the time this war is over, Zelensky, Putin and Trump will have all achieved exactly what they wanted in the very beginning.
Zelensky will rid his country of the Nazi battalions that have essentially overthrown the regular army.
There will be peace in Donbass via a treaty with Putin.
Putin will have achieved a purge of all the US biolabs in Ukraine, secured a neutral Ukraine and peace in the Donbass region.
Trump will have shown the American people just how far Biden was willing to go to protect his corrupt dealings with Ukraine.
If you can see the big picture, you will see that it had to be this way and that the best is yet to come.
Edited for spacing.
Wow! Thank you for sharing your analysis. For reasons I can't explain, other than the input of this community, I have been very confident the situation in the Ukraine will turn out to be a good thing, but I couldn't really see how. You have provided a damn plausible reading of the tea leaves.
Thank you. I make my living largely through analyzing stocks. I've long gotten into the habit of analyzing the reality of the situation and what rational actors should do rather than what they are saying with their mouths.
Thank you u/ActTwo...this is the only scenario that makes sense to me.
Been trying to explain this to my husband but he's focused on the media narrative. I've told him these are the people who have lied to the world about covid for 2 years...why would you believe anything of their scenario's?
Must take a 40,000 ft view.
Thank you for reading. As for your husband, his view is understandable. The human psychology is designed in a way where our minds must come to a conclusion on things. It’s very difficult to hold onto a thought as an unanswered question. We generally do not have the time or the energy to research and think through complex things so we generally go by what’s convenient or by our gut instincts. MSM gives us this convenience.
Agreed fren!
Thank you for sharing your wonderful gift.
I'm just happy to have people read this. I gotta thank the Mods for pinning this so quickly. Otherwise, a lot of you guys probably wouldn't have read this.
Archived:
Trump, Zelensky and the Real Meaning of Red October Part I https://files.catbox.moe/9jt8e8.pdf
Trump, Putin, Zelensky and the Real Meaning of Red October Part II (Who is our Ramius?)
https://files.catbox.moe/dfrbbs.pdf
Awesome. Thank you!
maybe you could write some stock tips as well or options :)
Well, I’m really heavy into Petrobras. I also bought Sberbank and Gazprom on the OTC market before they got frozen by the brokerages. I invest for the long term and do not do much short term trading.
You into GME?
Got it. Thanks. I am trying to prepare for market meltdown and options seem like an option (no pun intended).
Gamestop?
I was about to reply to u/mjs001 about how the Ukraine crisis seem to trend towards ‘a good thing’.
If we believe that fundamentally all Wars are economic/banker wars (I doubt this is disputed at this point), then we have to look at all conflict from a Resource/Monetary/Economic point of view, specifically Macro-Economic.
There is a change of the World Order underway, underpinned by the US Dollar as the World Reserve Currency. This is the fulcrum.
The Cabal is quite open with this changing of the guard if you will, e.g. Great Reset and the latest being Biden’s slip up on his New World Order where ‘We’ should lead it. I have no doubt in my mind that when he refers to ‘We’, he’s definitely not referring to the USA, but rather the World Corporation that puppeteer’s the current Super Power Nation.
We’re at an inflection point where a bunch of moves are happening at the same time, across all levers. If you look at the WEF Great Reset playbook, they have plans for every single area for human life/living and we also see counter-moves by ‘good’ actors to counter that singular design.
Keep a close eye on the fulcrum, the USD is losing it’s status as the worlds reserve currency. It’s neither good, nor bad. But history has proven time and time again that when the Reserve Currency is only as good as how fast your money printer can print, we’re in for War.
The fact that the current stock markets rebounds so quickly is an indicator. Imo.
Great stuff, anon
you feel it too.... Its like Qteam prepared us for things like this...