I love Christ as well. I just happen to also love the original church of Christ that has been at war with Lucifarians, occultists, Communists & Freemasons for centuries.
The church that has now been overrun by the very same enemies of humanity. There is a particular reason why Q mentions Arch Bishop Vigano.
Look up Saint Simon of Trent. The church wasn’t always corrupt. God bless, fren.
The leadership of the church is super corrupt and most of the congregation doesn’t speak out against the child abuse publicly…most probably don’t even admit to themselves it’s happening. They just keep giving the pedos money at offering every week. Seems pretty corrupt as a whole then. Gotta care about Jesus more than you care about your man made and man-lead church
I Was born and raised a Catholic, I just grew jaded with the people running it. Which is the original church of christ at war with luciferians? The Catholic Church?
You mentioned a saint so I tale it that yes you were referring to Catholicism.
Look up Saint Simon of Trent.
Look up Saint William of Norwich.
Look up Holy Child of La Guardia.
Look up all the Papal bulls that condemn & forbid Masonry. All of these Saints & Papal bulls were tossed into the dust bin of history upon the Judeo Masonic Coup known as Vatican II.
You’re a former Catholic & I doubt your old enough to remember what the Catholic Church used to stand for once upon a time & that is intentional. The institution entrusted with protecting & preserving Christian society has been destroyed.
There is a reason Q mentions Arch Bishop Vigano & not a Protestant minister. There’s a reason why Lucifarians imitate the Traditional Catholic mass & have their black mass in Latin. There’s a reason why the Masonic Pope wants to ban the traditional Latin Mass of tradition since the Council of Trent.
The RCC is the only real religious institution with the authority to bring down the Judeo Masonic religious cabal.
Re-write the bible? As if the Catholic church hadn't?
Indulgences, praying to men called Saints instead of God, praying to Mary instead of God, priests called to celibacy when Peter had a wife, the entire concept of purgatory, of a pope -- a human supposedly being the infallible vicar of Christ on earth.
None of that is in the bible.
If you want to say Martin Luther was only a man and nobody special go ahead and do so, because that is the truth. No man is special before God, everyone will be held accountable for their failings.
The Vatican and all its residents with their human trafficking, rape of children, the satanic resurrection statue, the auditorium in a shape of the snake, they aren't going to have any easier time on the day of judgement.
And as far as Q calling out an Archbishop, let me remind you that Trump hugged a gay pride flag. Trump surrounded himself with pastors, not priests. You've read too much into that letter.
I’m aware that Trump married a Catholic. I’m aware that he retweeted Viganos letter during “the BLM summer of love”. In this letter, Vigano calls out the Masons. Jesus’ original church of 2000 years still stands. Meanwhile there are thousands of denominations of Protestantism.
Do you believe that God is the author of confusion?
Which 4,000 denominations of
Protestantism do you belong to?
Do you believe that there are 4000 different ways to get to heaven?
Do you believe that Christianity suddenly began and 1517 and if so,who preserved the Bible and assembled it up to that point?
Do you believe that our Christian society is better off now post reformation & post Masonic “age of enlightenment?”.
Have you ever start to consider that if you are wrong with your interpretation of Christianity you are putting your salvation at stake?
Do you believe that Martin Luther a man that belonged to the secret is Society of the Rosie cross, A man that wanted to remove books from the Bible, A man who ended up marrying a nun, is in heaven?
I don't understand why you are stuck on this kind of checklist-style sectarianism so much. If you have the Holy Spirit within you, you would be able to recognize the work of the Holy Spirit and the presence of God in other people.
I didn't even know what a denomination was until long after I became a Christian. I am happy to read works by Catholics and Protestants alike as long as it is evident that the writer was (is) also a follower of God. It is difficult for people to speak convincingly about spiritual matters in a way that conveys God to other people, so this is not exactly the hardest thing to do.
Why should people have to adhere to a bureaucratic system to be saved? Aren't you underestimating the power, mercy, and divinity of God?
God creates order, certainly, but we also live in a fallen world. Every church has its problems (and has had them, since the days of the apostles), and the Roman Catholic church is no exception. Sectarianism existed back then, too, in the form of the Jews scorning the Greeks and compelling them to get circumcised or they couldn't be Christians.
I read a verse lately that perfectly encapsulates my thoughts on the subject you raised. Mark 9:38-42.
Great post. The thing that the catholic church fears the most is society realising that it is the personal connection to God (through Christ) that matters.
In fact, this kind of empowerment scared Rome so much that they had to kill Christ, as he was freeing people of self inflicted bondage.
For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. - Matthew 7:8
The Our Fathers prayers lays it out clearly for me:
Thy Kingdom Come, Thy will be done on earth as it is In Heaven”. I believe God has given us the church & laws to institute his Kingdom. I also believe that “the Rapture” is a psyop meant to make Christian give up without putting up a fight.
Catholic monarchies, to me represent a high water mark point in Christian civilization of relative peace & cohesion. It dealt with Freemasons, occultists, witches & “Jews” that sacrificed Christian children (research Saint Simon of Trent/ Saint William of Norwich)
The fact that the institution brought peace & cohesion but has been relentlessly attacked for centuries has me believe that there is SOMETHING to this church.
The contrarian in me has me fight for the original church of Christ, the more it is attacked.
20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
Your questions about 4,000 denominations misses the point. Ever find it kinda strange that Christ battled the Romans and yet so many accept the Roman Church?
Im not here to convert you. I’m here to propose points of views that you won’t hear anywhere.
My response isn’t necessarily directed at you, but anyone that wants to hear a contrarian view:
yes, the Catholic Church is the Original church of Christ & in my belief, the authentic church passed down by the Apostles.
At one point, It controlled Europe, large swaths part of North America & Central America. Bringing Christianity to the Western Hemisphere centuries before Protestants set foot.
after the Masonic Italian revolutions of the 1700, & 1800’s, the sovereign state of Holy Roman Empire was relegated to the Vatican walls.
If the RCC was just like any other church, why have the Masons waged war against her for 400+ years? The SAME secret societies that we are at war with now, were first at war with the RCC.
Bella Dodd, a communist, admitted that back in rhe 1930’s she helped 1,300 communists & sodomites infiltrate the institution. This would help you understand why we’re riddled with homos & pedos.
I believe there is a reason why Q both highlights the Illumanists that have corrupted the institution but also highlights Vigano, a man that has called out the Pedos, Vatican II & all of the corruption.
If the RCC was just simply another church, dear reader, why are the enemies of humanity hell bent on distroying THIS church. Not the Anglican Church, not the Methodist church, not the Southern Baptist church, but the ORIGINAL church of Christ.
Nobody follows Luther. That's soooo intellectually dishonest and a straw-man fallacy.
He publicly questioned un-Biblical things the Catholic church was doing and helped kick off the Protestant reformation. None of the points he made point back to himself and no one needs to subscribe to all of his beliefs or absolute shortcomings as a man to accept the arguments he made. You argument is like saying we should dismiss the good teachings of MLK cause he cheated on his wife.
Not sure why folks are quick to dismiss 2,000 of Christian civilization & tradition
That's easy.... I'll quote Jesus for the answer: “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition"
The Word of God should go before any man-mad tradition or teaching. Full-stop.
Without Luther's action we wouldn't have the 5 sola's
The five solas are five Latin phrases popularized during the Protestant Reformation that emphasized the distinctions between the early Reformers and the Roman Catholic Church. The word sola is the Latin word for “only” and was used in relation to five key teachings that defined the biblical pleas of Protestants. They are:
Sola scriptura: “Scripture alone”
Sola fide: “faith alone”
Sola gratia: “grace alone”
Solo Christo: “Christ alone”
Soli Deo gloria: “to the glory of God alone”
Each of these solas can be seen both as a corrective to the excesses of the Roman Catholic Church at the start of the Reformation and as a positive biblical declaration.
Sola scriptura emphasizes the Bible alone as the source of authority for Christians. By saying, “Scripture alone,” the Reformers rejected both the divine authority of the Roman Catholic Pope and confidence in sacred tradition. Only the Bible was “inspired by God” (2 Peter 1:20-21) and “God-breathed” (2 Timothy 3:16-17). Anything taught by the Pope or in tradition that contradicted the Bible was to be rejected. Sola scriptura also fueled the translation of the Bible into German, French, English, and other languages, and prompted Bible teaching in the common languages of the day, rather than in Latin.
Sola fide emphasizes salvation as a free gift. The Roman Catholic Church of the time emphasized the use of indulgences (donating money) to buy status with God. Good works, including baptism, were seen as required for salvation. Sola fide stated that salvation is a free gift to all who accept it by faith (John 3:16). Salvation is not based on human effort or good deeds (Ephesians 2:9).
Sola gratia emphasizes grace as the reason for our salvation. In other words, salvation comes from what God has done rather than what we do. Ephesians 2:8-9 teaches, “For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.”
Solo Christo (sometimes listed as Solus Christus, “through Christ alone”) emphasizes the role of Jesus in salvation. The Roman Catholic tradition had placed church leaders such as priests in the role of intercessor between the laity and God. Reformers emphasized Jesus’ role as our “high priest” who intercedes on our behalf before the Father. Hebrews 4:15 teaches, “For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin.” Jesus is the One who offers access to God, not a human spiritual leader.
Soli Deo gloria emphasizes the glory of God as the goal of life. Rather than striving to please church leaders, keep a list of rules, or guard our own interests, our goal is to glorify the Lord. The idea of soli Deo gloria is found in 1 Corinthians 10:31: “So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.”
The five solas of the Protestant Reformation offered a strong corrective to the faulty practices and beliefs of the time, and they remain relevant today. We are called to focus on Scripture, accept salvation by grace through faith, magnify Christ, and live for God’s glory.
History doesn’t lie. Christianity, prior to the heretical Reformation movement was a lot more cohesive. There were Catholics & there were Orthodox.
Luther came along & shit the bed. He attempted to remove Seven books of the Bible, all in the Old Testament, are accepted by Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox, but are not accepted by Jews or Protestants. These include 1 and 2 Maccabees, Judith, Tobit, Baruch, Sirach, and Wisdom, and additions to the books of Esther and Daniel. that are not included in the Protestant version of the Old Testament. These books are referred to as the deuterocanonical books. Luther made an attempt to remove the books of Hebrews, James, Jude and Revelation from the canon (notably, he perceived them to go against certain Protestant doctrines such as sola gratia and sola fide).
Yes, Luther made his OWN religion. Who was Luther to be an authority on editing the Bible? A man that belonged the the Rosicrucian secret society. A man that has lead millions of souls to hell, including himself, in my opinion.
This is MY opinion. There are millions of opinions out there… if you get all bent out of shape because of MY opinion, perhaps your faith isn’t as strong as you think it is.
History doesn't lie as one of the funniest things I've heard in a while. Could you say it again please?
And then tell me about the indulgences the Catholic church was selling at the time of the Reformation. You know licenses to go send and show me where that is in Scripture.
You're basically taking the position that God is a powerful enough to convey his word throughout history. Your position also ignores much of scripture.
Different shoes like the pope? Are they made out of human flesh as well? It's a tradition right?
I’ll respond to you, as soon as you tell me what happened to Christianity between the 3rd Century when Emperor Constantine converted & 1517 when Martin Luther proposed his new religion. Did Christianity not exist?
Follow up question: how do you feel about the fact that Martin Luther took it upon himself to attempt to remove seven books from the Old & new Testament.
You should read Fomenko...russian mathematician...he discovered a thousand year difference in time scale.. we are really only in the middle ages...so much fraud in Bible etc
So you believe Christianity sprung up suddenly in 1517? Where was it for 1,300 years?
A woman represents a church in Bible prophecy.
The dragon represents Satan.
Revelation 12:13-17
13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
It wasn't 1300 years. It was 1260 years, and it's referred to as the Dark Ages for a reason.
"A time (360), and times (360+360), and half a time (180)" is 1260 days.
Many Christians believe this 1260 days represents a literal 3.5 years of Tribulation because their church is teaching them Dispensationalism, a false doctrine introduced into the American theological seminaries by Jesuit coadjutors in the early 1900s and disseminated from there around the world.
The 490 year prophecy in Daniel 9 actually ended 3.5 years after Yashua was crucified. When the Jewish high priest ordered Stephen to be stoned to death, the natural branch was cut off and salvation was opened to all mankind (the Gentiles). Those 3.5 years didn't magically move to an undetermined time in the future as is taught by most Protestant denominations today.
In reality, a day is a year in prophetic time.
The Seventh Day Adventists are an interesting denomination to study because 99% of their theology is what was taught by mainline Protestant churches prior to 1844. Once you toss out their Investigative Judgment false teaching, you've got a pretty good foundation to interpret Bible prophecy.
Ellen White was a false prophet who followed a Freemason named William Miller, one of the original datefags. Miller predicted the world was going to end in 1844.
After his claims were exposed as the lies they were, Ellen White and the rest of the Millerites referred to this period of time as "The Great Disappointment".
Ultimately, Ellen White took control of the Millerite movement by teaching the false doctrine Miller was right about 1844, even though he was wrong about it being the end of the world, but rather the start of the "Investigative Judgment." This was the start of the Seventh Day Adventist church.
I'm going to quote from an Adventist apologetic site because it sums up the history as they believe it as well as I ever could-
Why the Investigative Judgment Doctrine Is Sound
After the great disappointment of 1844, a small band of Adventists, unable to deny the presence of God in the Millerite movement, came to the conclusion that, instead of the Second Coming, God had begun what they termed the “Investigative Judgment,” now also known as the Pre-Advent Judgment, as distinct from the Final Judgment. Demonstrating biblical basis for Investigative JudgmentThroughout the last hundred and seventy years critics from both within and outside the Seventh-day Adventist Church, have questioned the validity of this Investigative Judgment doctrine. And they still raise objections like the following:
The Investigative Judgment is nothing more than a feeble face-saving attempt to address the mistake of 1844.
It is an extra-biblical doctrine invented entirely by Ellen White.
It cheapens the Reformation gospel of salvation by grace through faith.
It robs Adventists of the assurance of salvation and causes them to live in constant fear.
No other denomination has seen any value in this doctrine, and hence all have rejected it.
A good number of Adventist ministers and theologians secretly believe the doctrine to be false but are afraid to admit it.
In light of these charges, one would think the debate would be over. However, as we will demonstrate, the debate is far from over. In fact, we believe that the critics have no valid argument.
I agree with the critics that the Investigative Judgment is indeed an extra-biblical doctrine.
Here's the verse in question.
Daniel 8:14
And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
Now, in this instance, the 2300 days mentioned are literal days because the word translated from Hebrew into English as "Day" in this verse is וַיְהִי-עֶרֶב וַיְהִי-בֹקֶר, or "Evening-Morning"
Because Daniel specified "Evening-Morning," he's letting us know these are literal days and not prophetic days.
The book of Revelation is interesting in that you need to know the entire Bible to interpret it. If you do, many things make sense that wouldn't otherwise.
Daniel 7:23-24
23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
This is a prophecy regarding the fourth kingdom or Rome.
In Edward Gibbon's historical masterpiece Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, he provides the names of the 10 kingdoms which emerge out of the ashes after the fall of the Roman empire.
These kingdoms were as follows-
Alemanni, Franks, Burgundians, Suevi, Vandals, Visigoths, Anglo-Saxons, Ostrogoths, Lombards, and the Heruli
Now, as Daniel 7:24 states, another horn AKA king/kingdom shall arise after those 10 kings/kingdoms and shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
The Ostrogoths, the Heruli, and the Vandals were slaughtered by the Roman Catholic Church.
Here's proof of that from the Catholic Encyclopedia itself-
Here's another article showing Odoacer removed the last Roman emperor and declared himself King of Italy. (Odoacer tried to name his choice for the Bishop of Rome but was rejected. Ultimately, once Odoacer died, the Bishop of Rome took over his kingdom, in essence subduing the Heruli.)-
This horn or king/kingdom was diverse from the rest. Indeed, the Roman Catholic Church claimed it was both a spiritual and temporal power.
Daniel 7:25-26
25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
"And he shall speak great words against the most High"
We know the Roman Catholic Church maintains its traditions take precedence over the Word of God.
"and shall wear out the saints of the most High"
We know the Roman Catholic Church mercilessly wiped out Christians who held alternate interpretations to the Bishop of Rome, deeming them as heretics.
After all, declaring the doctrine of baptism by immersion was a terrible crime which definitely deserved to be punishable by death, right?
As far as the prophecy this king/kingdom would "think to change times and
laws," we know for a fact the Roman Catholic Church replaced the Biblical lunar calendar with the Gregorian solar calendar and replaced Biblical feast days with pagan feast days. The Pope also declared Sunday replaces the Jewish sabbath simply because He said so.
Here Daniel also mentions the "time and times and the dividing of time" which is the same 1260 day/year prophecy mentioned in Revelation.
The Roman Catholic Church ceased being a world power after the 1260 years had passed. In 1798, Pope Pius VI was imprisoned by Napoleon, which marks the end of this 1260 year period.
Here's another Roman Catholic source verifying the imprisonment of Pope Pius VI in 1798-
By 476 AD the Western Roman empire was in shreds, having disintegrated at the hands of the invading hordes that picked it apart one swath at a time until it was roughly divided into about ten major parts. Most of these tribes had been converted to Christianity through the efforts of the missionary Ulfilas. Ulfilas, while preaching the gospel to the Goths also preached to them a form of Christianity known as Arianism. Arianism didn’t accept that Jesus was Co-Eternal with the Father, teaching instead that he was begotten of God at some unknown point in eternity. This belief made them divergents of Catholicism and therefore they were looked upon as opponents. When the Arian Ostrogoths under Theodoric took over Rome in 493 AD they significantly limited the power of the Pope. But the Catholic Emperors of the Eastern Empire managed to help the Pope by eliminating three of the Arian tribes. The Emperor Zeno arranged a treaty with the Ostrogoths in 487 AD which led to the eradication of the Heruli in 493 AD. Later Justinian destroyed the Vandals in 534 AD and crippled the power of the Ostrogoths in 538 AD thereby eliminating all the powers that had limited the power and influence of the Pope.
Don't blame Luther and the Reformers for the neo-Platonic, hermetic, kabbalistic / talmudic cancers that infected Christian doxies and praxis from at least the 15th century onward via the Romanists. Read The Occult Renaissance Church of Rome by Michael Hoffman to set the record straight.
The Bible speaks for itself. It doesn't need a crutch. If it limps, it's a lie.
Acts 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
Show me a literate society at that time.
Most of Europe was illiterate at that time.
The mass was in Latin & not in the vernacular because language, much like Protestant religions have a way of constantly changing.
Dead Sea Scrolls was transliterated by a Freemason known as Zacharai Steichen. I tend to think they are fake. He the guy that pushed “Aliens” and “the 9th planet of Nubiru”.
If you want to follow the Doctrines of Freemasons & Devils, have at it.
Did you know that Martin Luther had a time machine? He died in 1546, yet Rosicrucianism didn't start until 1617. I think you must realize you just made some idiotic statements.
In Luther's time, Christian civilization has been extant for 1500 years, not 2000 years (but maybe his time machine made a difference). His effort was to dispel man-made observances and restore the teachings and doctrine of the Bible (which the Roman church had concealed from the laity for centuries, substituting heresies such as indulgences). As far as I know, he had no dispute with the Coptic or Orthodox churches.
Luther translated the Bible into German in 1534, thus making God's Word widely available among believers. A translation is not a "re-write."
Did Christianity suddenly begin in 1517?
Did you know that Martin Luther was a Christian Kabbalist, alchemist, and member of the Rosicrucian Order? It’s even in his coat of arms.
Not sure why folks are quick to dismiss 2,000 of Christian civilization & tradition to follow a man who wanted to re-write the Bible.
I just love christ. No church or denomination for me.
I love Christ as well. I just happen to also love the original church of Christ that has been at war with Lucifarians, occultists, Communists & Freemasons for centuries. The church that has now been overrun by the very same enemies of humanity. There is a particular reason why Q mentions Arch Bishop Vigano.
Look up Saint Simon of Trent. The church wasn’t always corrupt. God bless, fren.
The leadership of the church is super corrupt and most of the congregation doesn’t speak out against the child abuse publicly…most probably don’t even admit to themselves it’s happening. They just keep giving the pedos money at offering every week. Seems pretty corrupt as a whole then. Gotta care about Jesus more than you care about your man made and man-lead church
It’s like you didn’t read his comment. Weird.
I Was born and raised a Catholic, I just grew jaded with the people running it. Which is the original church of christ at war with luciferians? The Catholic Church?
You mentioned a saint so I tale it that yes you were referring to Catholicism.
The Holy Bible has no denominations in it. The church is the Body of Christ, which is made up of all that believe in Him.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-Chapter-1/
Look up Saint Simon of Trent. Look up Saint William of Norwich. Look up Holy Child of La Guardia.
Look up all the Papal bulls that condemn & forbid Masonry. All of these Saints & Papal bulls were tossed into the dust bin of history upon the Judeo Masonic Coup known as Vatican II.
You’re a former Catholic & I doubt your old enough to remember what the Catholic Church used to stand for once upon a time & that is intentional. The institution entrusted with protecting & preserving Christian society has been destroyed.
There is a reason Q mentions Arch Bishop Vigano & not a Protestant minister. There’s a reason why Lucifarians imitate the Traditional Catholic mass & have their black mass in Latin. There’s a reason why the Masonic Pope wants to ban the traditional Latin Mass of tradition since the Council of Trent.
The RCC is the only real religious institution with the authority to bring down the Judeo Masonic religious cabal.
You growing jaded of the people running the church does not mean Catholicism isn't the one true religion.
Judas was one of the apostles for Heaven's sake!
Please come home!
https://www.youtube.com/c/CatholicBryan
What’s the Q drop where Vigano is mentioned?
u/#q4429
https://qalerts.app/?n=4429
Letter here:
https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/archbishop-viganos-powerful-letter-to-president-trump-eternal-struggle-between-good-and-evil-playing-out-right-now/
This pope is actually an improvement over what they were doing from 1000 to 1800 AD. Are you people really this clueless?
No, why don’t you Enlighten me.
The Catholic church is the one true religion started by Jesus Christ.
https://www.youtube.com/c/CatholicBryan
Please reconsider!
Re-write the bible? As if the Catholic church hadn't?
Indulgences, praying to men called Saints instead of God, praying to Mary instead of God, priests called to celibacy when Peter had a wife, the entire concept of purgatory, of a pope -- a human supposedly being the infallible vicar of Christ on earth.
None of that is in the bible.
If you want to say Martin Luther was only a man and nobody special go ahead and do so, because that is the truth. No man is special before God, everyone will be held accountable for their failings.
The Vatican and all its residents with their human trafficking, rape of children, the satanic resurrection statue, the auditorium in a shape of the snake, they aren't going to have any easier time on the day of judgement.
And as far as Q calling out an Archbishop, let me remind you that Trump hugged a gay pride flag. Trump surrounded himself with pastors, not priests. You've read too much into that letter.
I’m aware that Trump married a Catholic. I’m aware that he retweeted Viganos letter during “the BLM summer of love”. In this letter, Vigano calls out the Masons. Jesus’ original church of 2000 years still stands. Meanwhile there are thousands of denominations of Protestantism.
Do you believe that God is the author of confusion?
Which 4,000 denominations of
Protestantism do you belong to?
Do you believe that there are 4000 different ways to get to heaven?
Do you believe that Christianity suddenly began and 1517 and if so,who preserved the Bible and assembled it up to that point?
Do you believe that our Christian society is better off now post reformation & post Masonic “age of enlightenment?”.
Have you ever start to consider that if you are wrong with your interpretation of Christianity you are putting your salvation at stake?
Do you believe that Martin Luther a man that belonged to the secret is Society of the Rosie cross, A man that wanted to remove books from the Bible, A man who ended up marrying a nun, is in heaven?
I don't understand why you are stuck on this kind of checklist-style sectarianism so much. If you have the Holy Spirit within you, you would be able to recognize the work of the Holy Spirit and the presence of God in other people.
I didn't even know what a denomination was until long after I became a Christian. I am happy to read works by Catholics and Protestants alike as long as it is evident that the writer was (is) also a follower of God. It is difficult for people to speak convincingly about spiritual matters in a way that conveys God to other people, so this is not exactly the hardest thing to do.
Why should people have to adhere to a bureaucratic system to be saved? Aren't you underestimating the power, mercy, and divinity of God?
God creates order, certainly, but we also live in a fallen world. Every church has its problems (and has had them, since the days of the apostles), and the Roman Catholic church is no exception. Sectarianism existed back then, too, in the form of the Jews scorning the Greeks and compelling them to get circumcised or they couldn't be Christians.
I read a verse lately that perfectly encapsulates my thoughts on the subject you raised. Mark 9:38-42.
Great post. The thing that the catholic church fears the most is society realising that it is the personal connection to God (through Christ) that matters.
In fact, this kind of empowerment scared Rome so much that they had to kill Christ, as he was freeing people of self inflicted bondage.
For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. - Matthew 7:8
The Our Fathers prayers lays it out clearly for me: Thy Kingdom Come, Thy will be done on earth as it is In Heaven”. I believe God has given us the church & laws to institute his Kingdom. I also believe that “the Rapture” is a psyop meant to make Christian give up without putting up a fight.
Catholic monarchies, to me represent a high water mark point in Christian civilization of relative peace & cohesion. It dealt with Freemasons, occultists, witches & “Jews” that sacrificed Christian children (research Saint Simon of Trent/ Saint William of Norwich)
The fact that the institution brought peace & cohesion but has been relentlessly attacked for centuries has me believe that there is SOMETHING to this church.
The contrarian in me has me fight for the original church of Christ, the more it is attacked.
I believe the Protestant denominations in the World Council of Churches have reunited with the Roman Catholic Church behind the scenes.
Yes..the new world order want one religion which they will rule over with their appointed king of Jerusalem.
20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
Your questions about 4,000 denominations misses the point. Ever find it kinda strange that Christ battled the Romans and yet so many accept the Roman Church?
Im not here to convert you. I’m here to propose points of views that you won’t hear anywhere. My response isn’t necessarily directed at you, but anyone that wants to hear a contrarian view:
yes, the Catholic Church is the Original church of Christ & in my belief, the authentic church passed down by the Apostles.
At one point, It controlled Europe, large swaths part of North America & Central America. Bringing Christianity to the Western Hemisphere centuries before Protestants set foot.
after the Masonic Italian revolutions of the 1700, & 1800’s, the sovereign state of Holy Roman Empire was relegated to the Vatican walls.
If the RCC was just like any other church, why have the Masons waged war against her for 400+ years? The SAME secret societies that we are at war with now, were first at war with the RCC.
Bella Dodd, a communist, admitted that back in rhe 1930’s she helped 1,300 communists & sodomites infiltrate the institution. This would help you understand why we’re riddled with homos & pedos.
I believe there is a reason why Q both highlights the Illumanists that have corrupted the institution but also highlights Vigano, a man that has called out the Pedos, Vatican II & all of the corruption.
If the RCC was just simply another church, dear reader, why are the enemies of humanity hell bent on distroying THIS church. Not the Anglican Church, not the Methodist church, not the Southern Baptist church, but the ORIGINAL church of Christ.
Nobody follows Luther. That's soooo intellectually dishonest and a straw-man fallacy.
He publicly questioned un-Biblical things the Catholic church was doing and helped kick off the Protestant reformation. None of the points he made point back to himself and no one needs to subscribe to all of his beliefs or absolute shortcomings as a man to accept the arguments he made. You argument is like saying we should dismiss the good teachings of MLK cause he cheated on his wife.
That's easy.... I'll quote Jesus for the answer: “And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition"
The Word of God should go before any man-mad tradition or teaching. Full-stop.
Without Luther's action we wouldn't have the 5 sola's
The five solas are five Latin phrases popularized during the Protestant Reformation that emphasized the distinctions between the early Reformers and the Roman Catholic Church. The word sola is the Latin word for “only” and was used in relation to five key teachings that defined the biblical pleas of Protestants. They are:
Each of these solas can be seen both as a corrective to the excesses of the Roman Catholic Church at the start of the Reformation and as a positive biblical declaration.
Sola scriptura emphasizes the Bible alone as the source of authority for Christians. By saying, “Scripture alone,” the Reformers rejected both the divine authority of the Roman Catholic Pope and confidence in sacred tradition. Only the Bible was “inspired by God” (2 Peter 1:20-21) and “God-breathed” (2 Timothy 3:16-17). Anything taught by the Pope or in tradition that contradicted the Bible was to be rejected. Sola scriptura also fueled the translation of the Bible into German, French, English, and other languages, and prompted Bible teaching in the common languages of the day, rather than in Latin.
Sola fide emphasizes salvation as a free gift. The Roman Catholic Church of the time emphasized the use of indulgences (donating money) to buy status with God. Good works, including baptism, were seen as required for salvation. Sola fide stated that salvation is a free gift to all who accept it by faith (John 3:16). Salvation is not based on human effort or good deeds (Ephesians 2:9).
Sola gratia emphasizes grace as the reason for our salvation. In other words, salvation comes from what God has done rather than what we do. Ephesians 2:8-9 teaches, “For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.”
Solo Christo (sometimes listed as Solus Christus, “through Christ alone”) emphasizes the role of Jesus in salvation. The Roman Catholic tradition had placed church leaders such as priests in the role of intercessor between the laity and God. Reformers emphasized Jesus’ role as our “high priest” who intercedes on our behalf before the Father. Hebrews 4:15 teaches, “For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin.” Jesus is the One who offers access to God, not a human spiritual leader.
Soli Deo gloria emphasizes the glory of God as the goal of life. Rather than striving to please church leaders, keep a list of rules, or guard our own interests, our goal is to glorify the Lord. The idea of soli Deo gloria is found in 1 Corinthians 10:31: “So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.”
The five solas of the Protestant Reformation offered a strong corrective to the faulty practices and beliefs of the time, and they remain relevant today. We are called to focus on Scripture, accept salvation by grace through faith, magnify Christ, and live for God’s glory.
History doesn’t lie. Christianity, prior to the heretical Reformation movement was a lot more cohesive. There were Catholics & there were Orthodox.
Luther came along & shit the bed. He attempted to remove Seven books of the Bible, all in the Old Testament, are accepted by Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox, but are not accepted by Jews or Protestants. These include 1 and 2 Maccabees, Judith, Tobit, Baruch, Sirach, and Wisdom, and additions to the books of Esther and Daniel. that are not included in the Protestant version of the Old Testament. These books are referred to as the deuterocanonical books. Luther made an attempt to remove the books of Hebrews, James, Jude and Revelation from the canon (notably, he perceived them to go against certain Protestant doctrines such as sola gratia and sola fide). Yes, Luther made his OWN religion. Who was Luther to be an authority on editing the Bible? A man that belonged the the Rosicrucian secret society. A man that has lead millions of souls to hell, including himself, in my opinion.
This is MY opinion. There are millions of opinions out there… if you get all bent out of shape because of MY opinion, perhaps your faith isn’t as strong as you think it is.
History doesn't lie as one of the funniest things I've heard in a while. Could you say it again please?
And then tell me about the indulgences the Catholic church was selling at the time of the Reformation. You know licenses to go send and show me where that is in Scripture.
You're basically taking the position that God is a powerful enough to convey his word throughout history. Your position also ignores much of scripture.
Different shoes like the pope? Are they made out of human flesh as well? It's a tradition right?
I find the Freemasonic Pope’s red shoes disgusting. That & the snake auditorium built in the 70’s is equally disturbing.
We get all this weirdness when Masons infiltrated the institution back in the 1960’s.
I’ll respond to you, as soon as you tell me what happened to Christianity between the 3rd Century when Emperor Constantine converted & 1517 when Martin Luther proposed his new religion. Did Christianity not exist?
Follow up question: how do you feel about the fact that Martin Luther took it upon himself to attempt to remove seven books from the Old & new Testament.
Let’s hear it.
Based.
You should read Fomenko...russian mathematician...he discovered a thousand year difference in time scale.. we are really only in the middle ages...so much fraud in Bible etc
A woman represents a church in Bible prophecy.
The dragon represents Satan.
Revelation 12:13-17
13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
It wasn't 1300 years. It was 1260 years, and it's referred to as the Dark Ages for a reason.
"A time (360), and times (360+360), and half a time (180)" is 1260 days.
Many Christians believe this 1260 days represents a literal 3.5 years of Tribulation because their church is teaching them Dispensationalism, a false doctrine introduced into the American theological seminaries by Jesuit coadjutors in the early 1900s and disseminated from there around the world.
The 490 year prophecy in Daniel 9 actually ended 3.5 years after Yashua was crucified. When the Jewish high priest ordered Stephen to be stoned to death, the natural branch was cut off and salvation was opened to all mankind (the Gentiles). Those 3.5 years didn't magically move to an undetermined time in the future as is taught by most Protestant denominations today.
In reality, a day is a year in prophetic time.
The Seventh Day Adventists are an interesting denomination to study because 99% of their theology is what was taught by mainline Protestant churches prior to 1844. Once you toss out their Investigative Judgment false teaching, you've got a pretty good foundation to interpret Bible prophecy.
Ellen White was a false prophet who followed a Freemason named William Miller, one of the original datefags. Miller predicted the world was going to end in 1844.
After his claims were exposed as the lies they were, Ellen White and the rest of the Millerites referred to this period of time as "The Great Disappointment".
Ultimately, Ellen White took control of the Millerite movement by teaching the false doctrine Miller was right about 1844, even though he was wrong about it being the end of the world, but rather the start of the "Investigative Judgment." This was the start of the Seventh Day Adventist church.
I'm going to quote from an Adventist apologetic site because it sums up the history as they believe it as well as I ever could-
Why the Investigative Judgment Doctrine Is Sound
After the great disappointment of 1844, a small band of Adventists, unable to deny the presence of God in the Millerite movement, came to the conclusion that, instead of the Second Coming, God had begun what they termed the “Investigative Judgment,” now also known as the Pre-Advent Judgment, as distinct from the Final Judgment. Demonstrating biblical basis for Investigative JudgmentThroughout the last hundred and seventy years critics from both within and outside the Seventh-day Adventist Church, have questioned the validity of this Investigative Judgment doctrine. And they still raise objections like the following:
The Investigative Judgment is nothing more than a feeble face-saving attempt to address the mistake of 1844.
It is an extra-biblical doctrine invented entirely by Ellen White.
It cheapens the Reformation gospel of salvation by grace through faith.
It robs Adventists of the assurance of salvation and causes them to live in constant fear.
No other denomination has seen any value in this doctrine, and hence all have rejected it.
A good number of Adventist ministers and theologians secretly believe the doctrine to be false but are afraid to admit it.
In light of these charges, one would think the debate would be over. However, as we will demonstrate, the debate is far from over. In fact, we believe that the critics have no valid argument.
https://ssnet.org/blog/why-the-investigative-judgment-doctrine-is-sound/
I agree with the critics that the Investigative Judgment is indeed an extra-biblical doctrine.
Here's the verse in question.
Daniel 8:14
And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
Now, in this instance, the 2300 days mentioned are literal days because the word translated from Hebrew into English as "Day" in this verse is וַיְהִי-עֶרֶב וַיְהִי-בֹקֶר, or "Evening-Morning"
Because Daniel specified "Evening-Morning," he's letting us know these are literal days and not prophetic days.
The book of Revelation is interesting in that you need to know the entire Bible to interpret it. If you do, many things make sense that wouldn't otherwise.
Daniel 7:23-24
23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
This is a prophecy regarding the fourth kingdom or Rome.
In Edward Gibbon's historical masterpiece Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, he provides the names of the 10 kingdoms which emerge out of the ashes after the fall of the Roman empire.
These kingdoms were as follows-
Alemanni, Franks, Burgundians, Suevi, Vandals, Visigoths, Anglo-Saxons, Ostrogoths, Lombards, and the Heruli
Now, as Daniel 7:24 states, another horn AKA king/kingdom shall arise after those 10 kings/kingdoms and shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
The Ostrogoths, the Heruli, and the Vandals were slaughtered by the Roman Catholic Church.
Here's proof of that from the Catholic Encyclopedia itself-
Ostrogoths - https://www.catholic.org/encyclopedia/view.php?id=8827
Vandals- https://www.catholic.org/encyclopedia/view.php?id=11914
Heruli - Note: There isn't a specific article on the Heruli, but here's an article which shows their king was Odoacer -
https://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=1739
Here's another article showing Odoacer removed the last Roman emperor and declared himself King of Italy. (Odoacer tried to name his choice for the Bishop of Rome but was rejected. Ultimately, once Odoacer died, the Bishop of Rome took over his kingdom, in essence subduing the Heruli.)-
https://www.catholic.org/encyclopedia/view.php?id=10846
This horn or king/kingdom was diverse from the rest. Indeed, the Roman Catholic Church claimed it was both a spiritual and temporal power.
Daniel 7:25-26
25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
"And he shall speak great words against the most High"
We know the Roman Catholic Church maintains its traditions take precedence over the Word of God.
"and shall wear out the saints of the most High"
We know the Roman Catholic Church mercilessly wiped out Christians who held alternate interpretations to the Bishop of Rome, deeming them as heretics.
After all, declaring the doctrine of baptism by immersion was a terrible crime which definitely deserved to be punishable by death, right?
As far as the prophecy this king/kingdom would "think to change times and laws," we know for a fact the Roman Catholic Church replaced the Biblical lunar calendar with the Gregorian solar calendar and replaced Biblical feast days with pagan feast days. The Pope also declared Sunday replaces the Jewish sabbath simply because He said so.
Here Daniel also mentions the "time and times and the dividing of time" which is the same 1260 day/year prophecy mentioned in Revelation.
The Roman Catholic Church ceased being a world power after the 1260 years had passed. In 1798, Pope Pius VI was imprisoned by Napoleon, which marks the end of this 1260 year period.
Here's another Roman Catholic source verifying the imprisonment of Pope Pius VI in 1798-
https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/the-pope-who-outlasted-a-tyrant
THE DESTRUCTION OF THE THREE TRIBES
https://lineagejourney.com/read/the-roman-empire-from-313-538-ad/
538+1260=1798
Don't blame Luther and the Reformers for the neo-Platonic, hermetic, kabbalistic / talmudic cancers that infected Christian doxies and praxis from at least the 15th century onward via the Romanists. Read The Occult Renaissance Church of Rome by Michael Hoffman to set the record straight.
The Bible speaks for itself. It doesn't need a crutch. If it limps, it's a lie.
Acts 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
Matthew 15:9
But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Not interested in your pagan traditions.
Then go and believe your own seudo man- made religion.
You're deep in Mystery Babylon and don't even realize it.
If it had been left up to the Roman Catholic Church, the common man would be illiterate and not even have a Bible to read.
The discovery of the Dead Sea scrolls proves your claims of rewritten Bibles are completely false.
Show me a literate society at that time. Most of Europe was illiterate at that time. The mass was in Latin & not in the vernacular because language, much like Protestant religions have a way of constantly changing.
Dead Sea Scrolls was transliterated by a Freemason known as Zacharai Steichen. I tend to think they are fake. He the guy that pushed “Aliens” and “the 9th planet of Nubiru”.
If you want to follow the Doctrines of Freemasons & Devils, have at it.
Did you know that Martin Luther had a time machine? He died in 1546, yet Rosicrucianism didn't start until 1617. I think you must realize you just made some idiotic statements.
In Luther's time, Christian civilization has been extant for 1500 years, not 2000 years (but maybe his time machine made a difference). His effort was to dispel man-made observances and restore the teachings and doctrine of the Bible (which the Roman church had concealed from the laity for centuries, substituting heresies such as indulgences). As far as I know, he had no dispute with the Coptic or Orthodox churches.
Luther translated the Bible into German in 1534, thus making God's Word widely available among believers. A translation is not a "re-write."
Nice copypasta