Kushner cleared over 2 billion in post presidency deal while ivanka made 640 million.
If The Trump family is saving the country this is a pretty backwards way of going about it.
How is this not corruption in the trump presidency and laundering money through his family in basically the same way the biden crime family did?
Edit: Strange that is such an outrage over a legitimate topic. Almost as when twitter bots unanimously attack a target. Id say we're over target with this one.
You have to look near the bottom of this thread for any legitimate posts. Buried by childish rage, willfully ignorant posters, and a conceited, self righteous, egomaniac mod whos attacking his own community.
Kushner's family are open zionists. Trump pardoned kushners father. Trump's daughter is married to a zionist, globalist, jew. Who just recieved a 2 billion dollar investment through his fathers presidential connections. The crime family just changed faces. If people can curb their man crush on trump and consider what is really happening here for a second.
This has been the only legitimate, non snowflake, critical thinking response so far. Thank you for that.
The problem i have is that this is EXACTLY the hunter biden situation. Trump's son-in-law receives a 2 billion dollar investment deal through his fathers saudi connections with little to no investment experience?
And they say only crooks get rich in politics.
You're welcome, I don't like getting into my personal life on here for obvious reasons, but this is a topic I'm rather knowledgeable about for a variety of reasons. Though I will build on this given you keep pointing out the comparison to hunter biden.
I can see how one would come to that conclusion with no background information, so let met give a little bit. Trump and his family, including Jared, have looked to middle eastern and Nordic sovereign wealth funds as a means of funding their larger projects for more than a decade before he ever ran for president. If I remember correctly, Trump actually used his connections with the Qatar sovereign wealth fund to functionally buy a majority stake that he controlled in the Empire State Building at one point, before selling it off after the people who held the rest of the building stake refused to sell the rest to him.
Likewise, Kushner (The company, not Jared) has had ties to the Qatar and if I remember correctly, Emirate (UAE) sovereign wealth funds as well as the Norwegian sovereign wealth fund for decades now. Those three funds, along with investment visas, have been the favored method of funding their various projects since at least the late 90s. It basically allows them to assume a minimal amount of actual debt, by acting as a commercial syndication company.
Without letting my finance nerdery get ahead of me, it basically means they get paid a fee for managing the projects (hence why they have Westminster Property Management as a subsidiary since they can't legally subcontract it out to say, Greystar or CBRE) and if they put any of their own money in the project then they get a cut of the profits as well.
That's how Kushner (the company) controls nearly 8 billion dollars in assets, but all of the family members have a collective net worth of roughly 1.7 billion dollars with little to no debt between all of them. Private equity real estate is complicated and hard to explain because its a VERY niche and specialized sub market with special rules and regulations, but that's a VERY basic explanation of how all of this works.
So with all of that being said, it's not really accurate to compare this to hunter biden being paid off by Burisma when he had little to no experience. While Jared himself may not be super experienced in this specific niche, the family company IS experienced and has the qualified staff to manage it properly. CRE fund managers rarely involve themselves in the day to day stuff. They typically just pick a market to invest in, and allocate funds as needed according to the goals of the funds investors while letting their various underlings handle all the paperwork and actual development.
I may have ventured off into my finance nerdery in a few places, but I hope that clears up a few things about the situation and why it's not exactly abnormal (especially given decades old associations) and why it's not really comparable to the hunter biden case.
Anons teaching a rookie. Fascinating and good work Anon. I also enjoyed the geeky dig in. It served your point well! :) :)
i know ..that was awesome
I love all real estate nerd shit! Thank you!
Are you talking about the financial and investment stuff? Cause if so it's not exactly some closely held industry secret. The basic info is all over the internet. I tend to refer people to investopedia.com if they want to learn more about financial literacy and specific terms. It's basically an investing encyclopedia. If you're wanting more info on private equity real estate specifically, that's a bit harder to find given it's such a niche industry. Investopedia has several articles related to it, and there's also certain youtube channels that will sometimes explain bits of it (Bigger Pockets for example), but overall you won't find much detailed info because it's not an industry focused on large customer bases.
Most funds have maybe 5-10 client investors at most. And most of the time these aren't individuals, they're "Whales" (large institutional investors like Insurance Companies, Sovereign Wealth Funds, Hedge Funds, Family Offices, etc. etc.) So they aren't required to publish publicly available reports. They only have to put out the bare minimum required by the SEC.
Now having said all of that, if you're wanting to learn more about financial literacy and real estate specifically, I'd have to recommend starting with lower expectations since you're probably never going to get into this level of market, at least not without years of work or connections.
I'd recommend watching some youtube videos by Graham Stephen, Ben Mallah, and Manny Khoshbin (his real estate videos, though the car videos are cool too). They're all low-mid tier real estate and Commercial Real Estate investors who generally explain things in a really blunt direct manner as compared to a charlatan like, for example, Grant Cardone.
I will say this though, one of the biggest mistakes most people make when they get into commercial real estate is they think people will get a 30 year mortgage and sit back on ALL properties. That's very rare, most developers will get a 5 year mortgage, amortized over 30 years or at interest only. Spend 3 or 4 years collecting rent, and then sell the appreciated building in year 4 or 5, pay off their debt and use the proceeds in what's called a 1031 exchange to legally defer taxes so long as you invest all profits in another property within 6 months of the selling date.
The problem with books is that often they're written with a motive of making money off the book itself, or selling a course, etc. etc. So I tend to recommend people just look for others (Like the three youtube channels I mentioned) as an example since they know what they're doing, and just do the whole "teaching" thing on the side for fun.
That is definitely an interesting take that i will have to dig into a little further. But the whole things seems very off putting. Considering the current events and what we believe to be happening.
Many here believed that kushner was in gitmo and pictures of ivanka with no ring on surfaced. But here they are getting filthy rich off their fathers connections.
Are we still to believe that kushner is a good guy in the bigger picture?
Personally, I never really bought into the whole Kushner's in Gitmo thing. Honestly? I don't even think any of Trumps kids (or in law in Kushner's case) are in on the plan. I think they MIGHT have been shown a sneak peak of what laid behind the curtain to wake them up and have them cut off certain ties and business relationships (soros and the clintons for example). But I really don't think any of them are privy to anything high tier. They're probably just a single rung higher than us on the ladder in what they know and have been allowed to see.
Wrong. Kushner didn't gain it's wealth off Trump. Do dig a bit.
You cant ignore trumps connections to Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud. Specially here on a Q site that believes the q team saved the prince from an assassination attempt.
Who here believed that?
I've seen several of your posts today and in many of you are very assumption driven and know or at least exhibit little to no actual knowledge about the things your speaking of. Coupled with seemingly little to no knowledge about this community itself. Just regurgitated talking points from MSM.
It was universally accepted back when kushner hadnt been seen in a while. Then his appearance significantly changed and pictures of Ivanka not wearing her wedding ring popped up.
Just type "Kushner" into the search on this site. You'll see countless posts on his body doubles, the buying of the 666 address in NY, his ties to soros money, etc etc.
Just because youre out of the look doesnt give you the right to attack others based on your personal ignorance.
LOL nice one OP 🤣😂 (not that I’ve seen)
It was a long running deal, back when people were tracking flights to gitmo, etc. Some weird occurrences around Kushner. His appearance changed noticeably. Then photos of ivanka without a wedding ring appeared. So many assumed kushner, the zionist jew, was arrested and a body double was in his place.
Thats how easy things get memory holed around here. There is no attention span. Only hurry onto the next topic.
You don't have a very solid understanding of the Hunter Biden situation, at all, if you think Kushner and Ivanka getting paid for a business deal is "the exact same" as what Hunter was doing with our US tax dollars being laundered to him, and 'the big guy.'
Kushner joins Afinity, (burisma), a private equity firm with no experience in private equity, like hunter with energy. Both profit greatly through their father's connections.
Insert "these two images are the same" meme.
Not the same. https://www.law.com/dailybusinessreview/2022/01/20/jared-kushners-investment-firm-hires-former-trump-staffers/?slreturn=20220312153254
Kushner has experience with big money investments from his prior job. And Affinity was not even a company until after the 2020 election, with the deal being made 6 months after Trump was out of office. You clearly do not understand what influence peddling is, and therefore cannot see that Kushners deal is in no way illegal.
However, even if you could show proof that Trump used US tax payer money to legally fund Affinity it still would not qualify as anything illegal because the deal happened after Trump was out of office. Therefore, no influence peddling, and not the same as the Hunter&Big Guy Burisma deal.
He has zero experience with investments. Thats even stated on his wiki. He founded the private equity firm AFTER trumps presidency. Then only a couple months later receives billions. You dont find that strange for a new start up to receive that kind of money and from people with those kind of connections?
Follow the money.
Kushner has long ties with soros money, the saudis, his father was a long term democrat party donor who went to prison for dirty dealing with the dem party.
If anyone else had done this we would burn them at the stake. Why does the trump family get a pass for massive kick backs?
Here i made a part 2. https://greatawakening.win/p/15HImBQOnL/over-target-kushner-and-ivanka-c/
Yep a lib would try to insert them into the same meme even though they are clearly not, that is what they do...