Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
I beg to differ, the first amendment also says free speech is absolute, yet even people on here won't complain about it being illegal to scream fire in a theatre or something similar. Things like satanism are evil and corrupt by nature. Are we just ignoring that not too long ago they sued over all of the abortion bans because it "violated their religious freedoms since their religion calls for human sacrifice"?
So, I'll throw that question right back at you. Should we allow EVERYONE to do whatever they want because of "freedom"? Should cultists be allowed to conduct human sacrifices to their pagan deities? What about muslims? Should we legalize child marriage because it's A-Ok in their "religion"?
I'm all for freedom, but everyone needs to stop being an absolutist on every topic. There ARE limits to what we perceive as freedom. Otherwise you have Sodom and Gomorrah, where everything goes and nothing is illegal.
Notice you didn't refute the rest, meaning my point still stands even if what you say is true, which is isn't since it's based on local laws most of the time.
Regardless my point still stands, there ARE limits to "freedom" unless you want to live in a nation where sharia law is legal, meaning muslims can behead you for being a non muslim, child marriage is legal, cultists can conduct human sacrifice, etc. etc.
Or would you rather all of that be fully legal because they "have the freedom to do so"?
There's a lot that needs to be outlawed when this is all over. I'm sure it'll step on a lot of peoples toes and I'll be told I "sound like the left" when I say this, but certain things just need to be outlawed. Free speech and freedom are good, but when an ideology or "lifestyle" leads to rampant moral degeneracy, pedophilia, etc. They just have no place in a morally upright society.
So when all of this is done, satanism, homosexuality and all of its derivatives, that weird human meat crap that somehow passes on the west coast, critical race theory, communism, socialism, and all the other liberal agenda talking points/wish list need to be demonized, banned, and cast out from society.
I'm at the point where I have zero tolerances with this crap. I used to have a sort of "tolerate but don't accept it" point of view for the gays and a few other things, but as time has gone on, I've now gotten to the point I don't care anymore. Evil is evil and it needs to be rooted out before it can spread and evolve.
I don't disagree, not exactly sure how you'd go about doing that, but something needs to be done about freemasons, the illuminati, etc. so as to ensure they can't rise from the ashes in secret.
I'm going to disagree with this one. I truly believe that everyone has a right to believe what they want. If people want to believe in Lucifer, Islam, Christianity, Atheism, Agnosticism, Buddhism, ancestor worship, this is their choice. Whatever people want to do to themselves is fine by me. The line is when it comes to other people, you cannot impose your Will on another. Your belief does not give you carte blanche to inflict any harm on another. Demanding people illegalize certain groups because you disagree with their beliefs is the very problem we are fighting against. Freedom is for everyone and cannot be removed without due process. Be careful when stooping to the level of your enemy, you lose the moral high ground. Empty victories mean nothing and hold no value in the long run, even if it appeases your appetite today, you will gain no lasting benefit. We already have laws about inflicting damage on others, more laws is not the solution.
Clif High, on his latest video, suggested outlawing secret societies. Any open religion or groups are fine. He may be right. Its the hidden shit we have to worry about.
The only issue is figuring out who belongs to a secret society. The very fact they are secret makes it a bit difficult. Besides, how do you justify banning people congregating or banding together? I'm pretty sure there are lots of secret groups that don't advertise their membership or want their identities known. I'm also sure that not all anonymous groups are necessarily bad. Think of all the anonymous groups associated with addictions. Should we ban those groups because we don't have their identities? Who are we now? We want Identification from anyone that belongs to a group? Sounds like the polar opposite of what we stand for.
The way is to find people doing bad things and punish them. I don't think punishing everyone or curtailing the rights of everyone for the bad actions of a few is a great idea. It kinda got us here slowly over time. Now we have so many laws that ban everything from media hyped actions of a few and our rights have eroded so badly, there is practically no freedom left.
Outlawing Satanism is outlawing Christianity. Freedom of religion is non-negotiable. What needs to happen is for the We the People to stand up and point our fingers at every opportunity to expose and destroy them through public opinion. What needs to happen is a legitimate Press, which reports on the filth properly. A free and fair Press would destroy all this degeneracy in no time at all.
So by this logic, pagan worshippers who believe in aztec deities should be allowed to perform human sacrifice? Or how about legalizing child marriage because in islam it's not only allowed, but encouraged?
People really need to stop this libertarian moral absolutism when it comes to this stuff. There are certain ideologies that are evil by their very nature and have no place in a morally upright society. You say a free and fair press would destroy this, but problem lies in the fact you have idiots cheering this crap on. Remember when the satanic temple sued Texas because they claimed the abortion ban violated their freedom of religion since their religion calls for human sacrifices?
Or are we conveniently forgetting that little tidbit? This is a "religion" that requires murder as part of their freaking doctrine. You can't defend it, and it NEEDS to be outlawed, because by their very beliefs they're evil and a threat to actual society.
I understand all the arguments. I truly do. The problem is religions don't live well around one another. That's just historical fact. Differing value systems clash. So, do we keep up this charade along with the rest they want us to uphold? It's a conundrum, I don't have all the answers. I wish I did.
Apparently, you haven't been around long enough, Satan is real and these are his minions. If he is real in their minds, it determines their actions, in which case, the influence is unleashed and becomes very very real.
You can't have it both ways.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
If the “religion” or “belief system” is in direct opposition to our Constitution it is NOT ALLOWED to be practiced here.
Islam is one of those belief systems along with those who worship Satan/self.
I beg to differ, the first amendment also says free speech is absolute, yet even people on here won't complain about it being illegal to scream fire in a theatre or something similar. Things like satanism are evil and corrupt by nature. Are we just ignoring that not too long ago they sued over all of the abortion bans because it "violated their religious freedoms since their religion calls for human sacrifice"?
So, I'll throw that question right back at you. Should we allow EVERYONE to do whatever they want because of "freedom"? Should cultists be allowed to conduct human sacrifices to their pagan deities? What about muslims? Should we legalize child marriage because it's A-Ok in their "religion"?
I'm all for freedom, but everyone needs to stop being an absolutist on every topic. There ARE limits to what we perceive as freedom. Otherwise you have Sodom and Gomorrah, where everything goes and nothing is illegal.
Please quit repeating this bullshit.
It is NOT illegal to yell fire in a movie theatre. Period.
Notice you didn't refute the rest, meaning my point still stands even if what you say is true, which is isn't since it's based on local laws most of the time.
Regardless my point still stands, there ARE limits to "freedom" unless you want to live in a nation where sharia law is legal, meaning muslims can behead you for being a non muslim, child marriage is legal, cultists can conduct human sacrifice, etc. etc.
Or would you rather all of that be fully legal because they "have the freedom to do so"?
There's a lot that needs to be outlawed when this is all over. I'm sure it'll step on a lot of peoples toes and I'll be told I "sound like the left" when I say this, but certain things just need to be outlawed. Free speech and freedom are good, but when an ideology or "lifestyle" leads to rampant moral degeneracy, pedophilia, etc. They just have no place in a morally upright society.
So when all of this is done, satanism, homosexuality and all of its derivatives, that weird human meat crap that somehow passes on the west coast, critical race theory, communism, socialism, and all the other liberal agenda talking points/wish list need to be demonized, banned, and cast out from society.
I'm at the point where I have zero tolerances with this crap. I used to have a sort of "tolerate but don't accept it" point of view for the gays and a few other things, but as time has gone on, I've now gotten to the point I don't care anymore. Evil is evil and it needs to be rooted out before it can spread and evolve.
Certain kind of secret societies need to be outlawed one way or another.
The masons etc. is how the cabal ran rings around society.
This is the real biggie. It's pernicious because you don't know it's there, rotting society.
I don't disagree, not exactly sure how you'd go about doing that, but something needs to be done about freemasons, the illuminati, etc. so as to ensure they can't rise from the ashes in secret.
I'm not sure how to do it either, I'm not generally in favour or banning things, but this is unavoidable, it has to be done.
The most important part is actually for society to realise it has this problem, then everybody is vigilant.
We weren't vigilant enough.
Make the necromancers go back to practicing in dank caves out in the wastelands.
You definitely have a great point!
We need the truth! Once we have the truth for all to see there will be no need for laws. Everyone left will want the same thing.. Peace!!
I'm going to disagree with this one. I truly believe that everyone has a right to believe what they want. If people want to believe in Lucifer, Islam, Christianity, Atheism, Agnosticism, Buddhism, ancestor worship, this is their choice. Whatever people want to do to themselves is fine by me. The line is when it comes to other people, you cannot impose your Will on another. Your belief does not give you carte blanche to inflict any harm on another. Demanding people illegalize certain groups because you disagree with their beliefs is the very problem we are fighting against. Freedom is for everyone and cannot be removed without due process. Be careful when stooping to the level of your enemy, you lose the moral high ground. Empty victories mean nothing and hold no value in the long run, even if it appeases your appetite today, you will gain no lasting benefit. We already have laws about inflicting damage on others, more laws is not the solution.
Clif High, on his latest video, suggested outlawing secret societies. Any open religion or groups are fine. He may be right. Its the hidden shit we have to worry about.
The only issue is figuring out who belongs to a secret society. The very fact they are secret makes it a bit difficult. Besides, how do you justify banning people congregating or banding together? I'm pretty sure there are lots of secret groups that don't advertise their membership or want their identities known. I'm also sure that not all anonymous groups are necessarily bad. Think of all the anonymous groups associated with addictions. Should we ban those groups because we don't have their identities? Who are we now? We want Identification from anyone that belongs to a group? Sounds like the polar opposite of what we stand for.
I see your point. It's good to have this conversation though. We have to find a way.
The way is to find people doing bad things and punish them. I don't think punishing everyone or curtailing the rights of everyone for the bad actions of a few is a great idea. It kinda got us here slowly over time. Now we have so many laws that ban everything from media hyped actions of a few and our rights have eroded so badly, there is practically no freedom left.
Outlawing Satanism is outlawing Christianity. Freedom of religion is non-negotiable. What needs to happen is for the We the People to stand up and point our fingers at every opportunity to expose and destroy them through public opinion. What needs to happen is a legitimate Press, which reports on the filth properly. A free and fair Press would destroy all this degeneracy in no time at all.
So by this logic, pagan worshippers who believe in aztec deities should be allowed to perform human sacrifice? Or how about legalizing child marriage because in islam it's not only allowed, but encouraged?
People really need to stop this libertarian moral absolutism when it comes to this stuff. There are certain ideologies that are evil by their very nature and have no place in a morally upright society. You say a free and fair press would destroy this, but problem lies in the fact you have idiots cheering this crap on. Remember when the satanic temple sued Texas because they claimed the abortion ban violated their freedom of religion since their religion calls for human sacrifices?
Or are we conveniently forgetting that little tidbit? This is a "religion" that requires murder as part of their freaking doctrine. You can't defend it, and it NEEDS to be outlawed, because by their very beliefs they're evil and a threat to actual society.
I understand all the arguments. I truly do. The problem is religions don't live well around one another. That's just historical fact. Differing value systems clash. So, do we keep up this charade along with the rest they want us to uphold? It's a conundrum, I don't have all the answers. I wish I did.
Satan does not exist so these people are me tally ill
Apparently, you haven't been around long enough, Satan is real and these are his minions. If he is real in their minds, it determines their actions, in which case, the influence is unleashed and becomes very very real.
If enough people treat them as the mentally ill people they are the rest won't be so keen to join their club and flash their symbols..
Q said...does the thought of satan exist? You have to be me ntally unbalanced to think such an entity exists....
I’ve been under direct demonic attacks because I was doing the Fathers will. The enemy does exist and you choosing to deny that gives him more power.