In this thread, please share something you learned about vaccines, that really blew your mind...
⚠️ Vax-TYRANNY ☠️
https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateVaccines/
I'll go first...
When i learned that vaccines caused "SIDS", it blew my mind,
but when i learned that SIDS was invented for the sole purpose of covering up the fact that vaccines kill babies, that really blew my mind!
"It can be shown polio, small pox, measles, tuberculosis, tetanus, etc. were in free-fall decline before a vaxxine was developed. If anything, the vaxxines each time delayed the decline of these diseases."
Okay, but you've got to give me something in terms of data if you're going to assert such a claim.
It took me a while to find it. It's obvious the government/pharmaceutical compnies don't want the history to be exposed. OMG, the "already been debunked" articles put out by the NIH, CDC, and others take up the top 50 for a web search. You'll get no where if you do a search on "sanitation versus Vaccines".
I regress. Somewhere in my 3-4 gigabytes of documents I have kept, there was a very interesting article showing the timelines with the declines in each disease and when the vaccine for it was introduced. It was always after a 90% decline of the disease when the vaccine was introduced. Here is a similar article explaining this. If you can wrap your mind around 'feces' contamination being the source for all these common diseases of the early 20th Century, then you can see as the sanitation infrastructure was built, the diseases declined because fecal contamination was being eliminated. It wasn't just the sanitation infrastructure that was built that greatly diminished diseases. It was the popularity of the automobile that effectively eliminated beast of burden transportation.
I regret the length of this response, but I believe it is important. To me itr is quite obvious that vaccines have never helped mankind. It is the biggest fraud for killing and maiming people in all of history.
Today, the most prevalent cause of disease is from environmental chemical toxins that attack the neurological system and cause cancer and auto-immune diseases, et. al. In 2002, Dr. Tom Mack of USC stated --
Mack then stated --
And much more so now with the mRNA vaccine.
Common diseases of the early part of the last Century were caused from the lack of sanitation and nutrition. The prevalence of animal husbandry, the reliance of domesticated animals for travel, the lack of sanitation infrastructure, hygiene, and good nutrition contributed to widespread diseases. Often the drinking water was taken from the same source as human and animal waste went into. The streets were covered in animal fecal matter. It was tracked in doors and it was everywhere. Think of the cities and towns with horse and oxen cart traffic on these paved and unpaved roads when it rained. The vast majority of common diseases were spread through fecal matter.
While smallpox captured the imagination with its high death rate and gross manifestations on victims' bodies, less obvious infections claimed even more lives. For example, eighteenth-century Philadelphians drank water contaminated with fecal matter, which resulted in endemic typhoid, dysentery, and other intestinal diseases. Since polio was primarily transmitted in fecal matter, by simply improving sanitation infrastructure reduced the occurrence of polio cases.
The increasing establishment of modern sanitation infrastructure, treated drinking water, and improved nutrition was the single most important reason why common diseases in America decreased dramatically beginning in the early part of the 20th century. By the 1950s and 1960s, the United States had the most modern and advanced sanitation infrastructure in the world. Disease precipitously dropped as a result. It was never the vaccines as the CDC and FDA claim that caused the drop in common diseases. They are committing fraud. It's all a damn lie. It can be easily shown, it was the improvement and expansion of sanitation infrastructure that best correlates with the decrease of common diseases. If anything, the vaccines delayed the drop of common diseases when they were introduced after the decrease had already started.
Good sanitation, good hygiene, and good nutrition is infinitely better at preventing disease than any and all vaccines ever invented.
From Jon Rappaport's "AIDS, Inc." book.
For those denialists who cling to the notion that vaccines are remarkably safe and effective, this article is a pill you can swallow, bitter to be sure, but immunizing against the effects of bald lies from the bent medical establishment.
Understand: this is only a partial history of disasters and revelations, and it stops at 1988.
"The combined death rate from scarlet fever, diphtheria, whooping cough and measles among children up to fifteen shows that nearly 90 percent of the total decline in mortality between 1860 and 1965 had occurred before the introduction of antibiotics and widespread immunization. In part, this recession may be attributed to improved housing and to a decrease in the virulence of micro-organisms, but by far the most important factor was a higher host-resistance due to better nutrition." Ivan Illich, Medical Nemesis, Bantam Books, 1977
"In a recent British outbreak of whooping cough, for example, even fully immunized children contracted the disease in fairly large numbers; and the rates of serious complications and death were reduced only slightly. In another recent outbreak of pertussis, 46 of the 85 fully immunized children studied eventually contracted the disease."
"In 1977, 34 new cases of measles were reported on the campus of UCLA, in a population that was supposedly 91% immune, according to careful serological testing. Another 20 cases of measles were reported in the Pecos, New Mexico, area within a period of a few months in 1981, and 75% of them had been fully immunized, some of them quite recently. A survey of sixth-graders in a well-immunized urban community revealed that about 15% of this age group are still susceptible to rubella, a figure essentially identical with that of the pre-vaccine era."
"Finally, although the overall incidence of typical acute measles in the U.S. has dropped sharply from about 400,000 cases annually in the early 1960s to about 30,000 cases by 1974-76, the death rate remained exactly the same; and, with the peak incidence now occurring in adolescents and young adults, the risk of pneumonia and demonstrable liver abnormalities has actually increased substantially, according to one recent study, to well over 3% and 2%, respectively." Richard Moskowitz, MD, The Case Against Immunizations, 1983, American Institute of Homeopathy.
"Of all reported whooping cough cases between 1979 and 1984 in children over 7 months of age - that is, old enough to have received the primary course of the DPT shots (diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus) - 41% occurred in children who had received three or more shots and 22% in children who had one or two immunizations."
"Among children under 7 months of age who had whooping cough, 34% had been immunized between one and three times..."
"... Based on the only U.S. findings on adverse DPT reactions, an FDA-financed study at the University of California, Los Angeles, one out of every 350 children will have a convulsion; one in 180 children will experience high-pitched screaming [can indicate brain damage]; and one in 66 will have a fever of 105 degrees or more." Jennifer Hyman, Democrat and Chronicle, Rochester, New York, special supplement on DPT, dated April, 1987.
"A study undertaken in 1979 at the University of California, Los Angeles, under the sponsorship of the Food and Drug Administration, and which has been confirmed by other studies, indicates that in the U.S.A. approximately 1,000 infants die annually as a direct result of DPT vaccinations, and these are classified as SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome) deaths. These represent about 10 to 15% of the total number of SIDS deaths occurring annually in the U.S.A. (between 8,000 and 10,000 depending on which statistics are used)." Leon Chaitow, Vaccination and Immunization, CW Daniel Company Limited, Saffron Walden, Essex, England, 1987.
"Assistant Secretary of Health Edward Brandt, Jr., MD, testifying before the U.S. Senate Committee on Labor and Human Resources, rounded... figures off to 9,000 cases of convulsions, 9,000 cases of collapse, and 17,000 cases of high-pitched screaming for a total of 35,000 acute neurological reactions occurring within forty-eight hours of a DPT shot among America's children every year." DPT: A Shot in the Dark, by Harris L. Coulter and Barbara Loe Fischer, Harcourt Brace Jovanovich.
"While 70-80% of British children were immunized against pertussis in 1970-71, the rate is now 39%. The committee predicts that the next pertussis epidemic will probably turn out to be more severe than the one in 1974/75. However, they do not explain why, in 1970/71, there were more than 33,000 cases of pertussis with 41 fatal cases among the very well immunized British child population; whereas in 1974/75, with a declining rate of vaccination, a pertussis epidemic caused only 25,000 cases with 25 fatalities." Wolfgang Ehrengut, Lancet, Feb. 18, 1978, p. 370.
"... Barker and Pichichero, in a prospective study of 1232 children in Denver, Colorado, found after DTP that only 7% of those vaccinated were free from untoward reactions, which included pyrexia (53%), acute behavioral changes (82%), prolonged screaming (13%), and listlessness, anorexia and vomiting. 71% of those receiving second injections of DTP experienced two or more of the reactions monitored." Lancet, May 28, 1983, p. 1217
"Publications by the World Health Organization show that diphtheria is steadily declining in most European countries, including those in which there has been no immunization. The decline began long before vaccination was developed. There is certainly no guarantee that vaccination will protect a child against the disease; in fact, over 30,000 cases of diphtheria have been recorded in the United Kingdom in fully immunized children." Leon Chaitow, Vaccination and Immunization, p. 58.
"Pertussis (whooping cough) immunization is controversial, as the side effects have received a great deal of publicity. The counter claim is that the effectiveness and protection offered by the procedure far outweigh the possible ill effects... annual deaths, per million children, from this disease over the period from 1900 to the mid-nineteen seventies, shows that from a high point of just under 900 deaths per million children (under age 15) in 1905, the decline has been consistent and dramatic. There had been a lowering of mortality rates of approximately 80% by the time immunization was introduced on a mass scale, in the mid-nineteen fifties. The decline has continued, albeit at a slower rate, ever since. No credit can be given to vaccination for the major part of the decline since it was not in use." Chaitow, Vaccination and Immunization, p. 63.
"... the swine-flu vaccination program was one of its (CDC) greatest blunders. It all began in 1976 when CDC scientists saw that a virus involved in a flu attack outbreak at Fort Dix, N.J., was similar to the swine-flu virus that killed 500,000 Americans in 1918. Health officials immediately launched a 100-million dollar program to immunize every American. But the expected epidemic never materialized, and the vaccine led to partial paralysis in 532 people. There were 32 deaths." U.S. News and World Report, Joseph Carey, October 14, 1985, p. 70, "How Medical Sleuths Track Killer Diseases."
"Despite (cases) in which (smallpox) vaccination plainly failed to protect the population, and despite the rampant side-effects of the methods, the proponents of vaccination continued their attempts to justify the methods by claims that the disease had declined in Europe as a whole during the period of its compulsory use. If the decline could be correlated with the use of the vaccination, then all else could be set aside, and the advantage between its current low incidence could be shown to outweigh the periodic failures of the method, and to favour the continued use of vaccination. However, the credit for the decline in the incidence of smallpox could not be given to vaccination. The fact is that its incidence declined in all parts of Europe, whether or not vaccination was employed." Chaitow, Vaccination and Immunization, pp. 6-7.
"Smallpox, like typhus, has been dying out (in England) since 1780. Vaccination in this country has largely fallen into disuse since people began to realize how its value was discredited by the great smallpox epidemic of 1871-2 (which occurred after extensive vaccination)." W. Scott Webb, A Century of Vaccination, Swan Sonnenschein, 1898.
"In this incident (Kyoto, Japan, 1948) - the most serious of its kind - a toxic batch of alum-precipitated toxoid (APT) was responsible for illness in over 600 infants and for no fewer than 68 deaths."
"On 20 and 22 October, 1948, a large number of babies and children in the city of Kyoto received their first injection of APT. On the 4th and 5th of November, 15,561 babies and children aged some months to 13 years received their second dose. One to two days later, 606 of those who had been injected fell ill. Of these, 9 died of acute diphtheritic paralysis in seven to fourteen days, and 59 of late paralysis mainly in four to seven weeks." Sir Graham Wilson, Hazards of Immunization, Athone Press, University of London, 1967.
"Accidents may, however, follow the use of this so-called killed (rabies) vaccine owing to inadequate processing. A very serious occurrence of this sort occurred at Fortaleza, Ceara, Brazil, in 1960. No fewer than 18 out of 66 persons vaccinated with Fermi's carbolized (rabies ) vaccine suffered from encephalomyelitis and every one of the eighteen died." Sir Graham Wilson, Hazards of Immunization.
"At a press conference in Washington on 24 July, 1942, the Secretary of War reported that 28,585 cases of jaundice had been observed in the (American) Army between 1 January and 4 July after yellow fever vaccination, and of these 62 proved fatal." Wilson, Hazards of Immunization.
"The world's biggest trial (conducted in south India) to assess the value of BCG tuberculosis vaccine has made the startling revelation that the vaccine 'does not give any protection against bacillary forms of tuberculosis.' The study said to be 'most exhaustive and meticulous,' was launched in 1968 by the Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) with assistance from the World Health Organization (WHO) and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta, Georgia."
"The incidence of new cases among the BCG vaccinated group was slightly (but statistically insignificantly) higher than in the control group, a finding that led to the conclusion that BCG's protective effect 'was zero.'" New Scientist, November 15, 1979, as quoted by Hans Ruesch in Naked Empress, Civis Publishers, Switzerland, 1982.
"Between 10 December 1929 and 30 April 1930, 251 of 412 infants born in Lubeck received three doses of BCG vaccine by the mouth during the first ten days of life. Of these 251, 72 died of tuberculosis, most of them in two to five months and all but one before the end of the first year. In addition, 135 suffered from clinical tuberculosis but eventually recovered; and 44 became tuberculin-positive but remained well. None of the 161 unvaccinated infants born at the time was affected in this way and none of these died of tuberculosis within the following three years." Hazards of Immunization, Wilson.
"We conducted a randomized double-blind placebo-controlled trial to test the efficacy of the 14-valent pneumococcal capsular polysaccharide vaccine in 2295 high-risk patients... Seventy-one episodes of proved or probable pneumococcal pneumonia or bronchitis occurred among 63 of the patients (27 placebo recipients and 36 vaccine recipients)... We were unable to demonstrate any efficacy of the pneumococcal vaccine in preventing pneumonia or bronchitis in this population." New England Journal of Medicine, November 20, 1986, p
Dude, A+++
For the supporting data go to the youtube video referenced in this thread:
https://greatawakening.win/p/140vaFtTS0/history-of-vaccines--incredible-/
"Modern" vaccine discussion starts at about the 11:45 mark.
I guess it can be said... Where is your data that you stood so firmly upon just a moment ago? Would be nice to see why you're defending them.