In this thread, please share something you learned about vaccines, that really blew your mind...
⚠️ Vax-TYRANNY ☠️
https://www.reddit.com/r/DebateVaccines/
I'll go first...
When i learned that vaccines caused "SIDS", it blew my mind,
but when i learned that SIDS was invented for the sole purpose of covering up the fact that vaccines kill babies, that really blew my mind!
When I learned that all infectious diseases were already pretty much wiped out by better sanitation before vaccines were ever even introduced.
This! And polio is caused by unsanitary water systems.
Polio was caused first by lead arsenic and then by DDT.
It finally went away when DDT was banned, except that it still exists in some parts of Africa where (a) DDT is still used, and (b) Bill Gates pushes "polio vaccines."
Here’s another insane thing. My husband gets that the vaccine for covid is bad but when he heard the Newsmax story that measles is making a comeback, he starts talking about how our grandkids could die from it because our girls aren’t vaccinating them. They are homeschooling them, so shouldn’t be a problem.
Tell him not to worry. I got the measles naturally when I was a kid, as did most of my classmates. We had spots and a fever and about 10 days later we were recovered and had lifetime immunity. Piece of cake.
I came here to say the same thing. When you look at bell curves of the election year infections (lol) over the past 50 years, you will see the infection rates were trending towards zero when a vaccine was introduced. Most of the pandemics were solved by not pooping in your water supply, washing your hands, sterilizing doctors instruments, etc.
Bingo.
Hygiene is the one biggest thing for everyone.
Outside of that the thing from all this that stands out is something Col Wesley Clark said. He was asked of his biggest fear and he said “Antibiotic-Resistant Bacteria” citing how it had entirely shut down entire platoons and cause massive issues. He said with the rates MDs prescribe them we will end up training bacferia that basically can’t be stopped.
Between Bacteria & Parasites - way more weary of that than Viruses now. I don’t avoid - just want a decent exposure and not constantly throwing treatments at things that shouldn’t be treated
Antibiotics also nuke your gut terribly
THIS👆
Yep.
To be honest I’ve been loosing some sleep cuz I think a gut feeling I had this whole time that the Covid-19 Plandemic was about one thing may be right. I felt it was a trial run sort of scenario where they looked to see how far they could push things, identify resistors, how folks resist, consolidate and obliterate economies, and general push forward on the one thing - having people take these vaccines that would lay a ground for their next salvo.
I’ve Lways thought Rona was about getting people to take a vaccine nobody knew shit about. Now they have and my gut says it’s softening them up for what’s next. As in it compromised their immunity like a binary agent / and next comes that binary compliment. Maybe they softened the dna response to flu, maybe smallpox. Gut is worried about smallpox as well. This is like a 20 years in dreams thing for me too so it super messes w me.
Where will we poop theb if not into the drinking supply!? The forest!? (Shit comment.)
True. Look at asian cultures! Longevity cuz there’s bathrooms lol
& they know which one to use too!
Tell that to the Native American populations virtually destroyed by small pox, or people who were still getting polio because their particular population didn't have access to the polio vaccine. Just because the covid shots are not vaccines does not mean that real vaccines have not been effective. Real vaccines are based on real science, and actually make sense; use the actual virus, but a deadened version, to make your immune system work against the live virus.
Nope. And please, imagine a nice popping sound at the end there. Vaccines increase virulity of the disease. It's called "rogue vaccine derived virus". It happened specifically with the polio vaccine, which continues to main and kill, even still today. Here's a collection of headlines a simple internet search will give you:
Vaccine-derived polio is on the rise...
Mutant Strains Of Polio Vaccine Now Cause More Paralysis ...
Wild Polio Wiped Out In Africa — But Vaccine-Derived Polio ...
Bill Gates' polio vaccine program caused 47,500 paralysis deaths in India...
UN Forced ToThat Admit That Gates-Funded Vaccine Is Causing Polio Outbreak In Africa...
It's always been this way. Always. Vaccines were never about health. So, happy hunting for the TRUTH about vacvines and polio to you!
There's some gray here. Two points:
-Gates was using a new type of polio vaccine. Worse, I don't trust Gates to not intentionally sterilize and kill with the vaccines he funds. The problem here could be this particular vaccine and this particular man behind it and not evidence of there being a problem with vaccines in general.
-While rogue vaccine derived virus is a very real thing, statistically there are certain diseases where the data certainly points to a vaccine doing far, far more good than harm.
I do not challenge your bullet points. But I am challenging your assertion of "Nope" in response to PhDinNY's comment. For the very general, broad concept of vaccines, I think it's very dangerous to take an all or nothing approach here.
This is a nuanced problem at both a scientific level and political one, specifically the creation of vaccines by evil people that either through direct intent or greed cause very serious health issues. Evil behaviors by those in power and corrupt pharma companies have muddied the water here significantly.
Polio is an example where the data points to the original polio vaccine doing far more good than harm. And as a general concept of using weakened or dead virus to provoke an identical immune response, common sense should tell us that a good portion of the time that's going to have a positive effect when specifically dealing with a virus that has a high mortality rate and/or high serious injury rate.
For low mortality rate viruses, phenomena like RVDV can completely undermine the good that a GOOD vaccine can do, and there should be serious consideration about not producing vaccines for them.
Again, we have to follow the data and we have to appreciate the nuance. If a virus with a 70% mortality rate is rampaging through the population, there's no medicine that can stop it and a trustworthy scientific company is offering a vaccine that is based purely on weakened or dead virus, would you take it? I strongly suspect you would.
If we're going to talk about vaccines as a general concept, we have to parse out the machinations of evil men and we must look at the data with clear eyes. The data points to some vaccines doing some net positive, and that should not be ignored.
This is a well repeated myth. Credit rightfully belongs to plumbers, electricians, sandhogs, engineers and city planners for eliminating disease. Not vaxxines. It can be shown polio, small pox, measles, tuberculosis, tetanus, etc. were in free-fall decline before a vaxxine was developed. If anything, the vaxxines each time delayed the decline of these diseases.
Vaccine companies don't do studies to see if a group of vaxxed vs unvaxxed have other health problems over long term. So we don't know if they do good really. It may help lessen the disease you took the vax for, but it may have given you a whole list of other ailments you would not have had. They don't do these studies because they know what they will find.
Bitchute why you can't catch a virus.. No virus ever in the world has ever been isolated.its a moneymaking depopulation scam
And to add, do you still trust the flu shot? It's a "vaccine" that doesn't do much.
Every family we convince to stop getting the injections stop getting sick and then go telling more people.
Studies proved that the more shots people get, year after year, the more susceptible they are to other flus and diseases.
I only got the flu shot once in my life, before I knew much about them. Note that, at least in the past, they were called "flu shots", not "flu vaccinations", and "tetanus shots" not tetanus vaccinations. Tetanus, being a bacteria, could likely never have a real vaccine. I think the truth on true vaccines lies somewhere between the "all vaccines are poison" and "vaccines are the greatest medical breakthrough in history" :)
except for spreading new variants, increasing the flu resistance to the pills prescribed and basically working for big pharma.
Let’s discuss how polio vaccines were contaminated with viruses and the cancer that ensued. Vaccines have never deserved the altruistic philosophy attributed them in my opinion. The gross negligence of the science behind the smallpox vaccine and Dr Edward Jenner unethically testing it on a small boy is simply the basis of this ‘science.’ Tell me how you came to trust the polio and “real vaccines based on real science” please begin by defining what real science is in order that we fundamentally understand exact terms and usage,
Very well said, AS. You sum up my thoughts above in a much more concise fashion. We have to look at this subject in a nuanced fashion.
I don’t think PhDinNY appreciates it. All he could do is downvote. Methinks the phd is a delusion of grandeur!
How true, bewilders me how people can assign motive to the tool. The intent always lies in the hand that wields it.
Europeans domesticated animals. Animals have horrible diseases. When Europeans came to America they decimated the natives because their immune systems couldnt handle what the Europeans were hardy to, because of their years around animal shit.