“Roe was egregiously wrong from the start,” Alito writes. The entire draft opinion can be read below:
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Can we stop playing the wannabe victim for one single day? It’s such a bullshit leftist tactic that is used to justify extreme retaliation. There will be no anti-Christian sentiment, it is anti-conservative sentiment which is par for the course from the left.
As for the protests, this decision is something a lot of conservatives have asked for, but something that is not popular for the majority of America. You can claim polls are fake if you want to bury your head in the sand, but there’s a reason this stood as a republican talking point in primaries that always disappeared come the general. There will be real protestors because people see it as an infringement on woman’s rights, they have every right to protest and be upset about it just like we had every right to be upset and protest about masks and vaccination rules.
If anything, this release could’ve easily been done to judge public response and if it is bad enough they will change their opinion to strike down part, but not all of the law (13 week ban similar to Mississippi federally mandated).
What an asinine statement to claim that it's not BOTH Christianity AND Conservatism sentiment that is par for the course.
Additionally, you reek of controlled opposition if you're trying to claim that the majority of America is pro abortion. Many people, largely the young and uneducated (like I was not too long ago), believe the bullshit about "muh reproductive rights", or "muh bodily autonomy", both of which are innately contradictory terms.
A) you are doing the opposite of reproducing by halting a life B) you are directly infringing on another humans bodily autonomy
Additionally, it's always still been the pro lifers who have been willing to compromise, including making exceptions for rape AND Incest, as well as moving the marker of when life begins to the moment a heartbeat can be detected which is around 6-8 weeks if I recall correctly.
How could you possibly go that long without taking a pregnancy test and continuing to have a guy finish inside you as many times as possible? That shows complete lack of all responsibility and if you aren't using the basic of contraception you forsake the privilege of escaping the consequences of your actions.
You don’t think rape and incest exceptions should be no brainers? That’s fucking stupid.
You obviously have never talked to a women before:
you don’t start to have symptoms until 6-8 weeks in, and if you take birth control a missed period isn’t all that rare, it’s a side effect of the hormones
condoms break, birth control fails, IUDs fail, these aren’t teenage whores running around and getting knocked up, they are people who make mistakes but are mature enough to realize they don’t want be bad parents and suck the government tit for the rest of their lives.
situations change, a potential parent may have thought they could handle the responsibility early on but realized that certain life choices have made that impossible (significant other leaves/gets sick/passes, sickness that make a live birth unlikely or puts the mothers life at risk, change in monetary standing where raising a child is unaffordable and would put the child and mother at risk.)
don’t let the bombastic far right evangelicals get to you with their fake-news, there is a very very small minority of women who use abortion as a form of B.C. or have more than 1 in their entire life.
I’m not arguing it needs to be legal in all situations, but making it illegal in all situations will have a negative impact on society both socially and monetarily.
Also, don’t claim you are “educated” you are indoctrinated by the church, same way people are indoctrinated by the left or indoctrinated by the right.
No. Murdering babies should absolutely be illegal in all situations. What it comes down to is do you think abortion is murder. If yes, it's always murder and not ok. If no, it's never murder and should be perfectly ok at any point before birth.
Fucking yikes.
I don’t think it is murder, I think it is immoral, because I only see it as immoral I can understand that there are situations where an immoral practice can have a resounding positive effect on one person and nearly zero effect on society.
Back to reddit with you.
You know what? How about I rape you, voteordie? And then abort you afterwards so you cease to be able to exist because you are unwanted lmao.
What kind of argument is that? Those are two separate people under very different circumstances. When you are raped you have no choice in the matter, if you become pregnant why is it the woman’s duty to carry that child and risk her life giving birth? Would you want your daughter or wife to go through that?
How about you push for legislation that the rapist has to pay all of the woman medical bills and pay her child support for the rest of her life, and if he can’t afford it then the woman has every right to go after the families.
Even crayon eating retards know the possible consequences for having sex. Worried? THEN DON'T FUCK.
You know as well as I do that is a non-starter as an argument. I see that you ignored my points though so you could make make the tired old abstinence argument. If you want to live in a perfect world where everyone only thinks of the consequences then a free country is not for you. The goal of a free country is to mitigate societal impacts of actions, not eliminate them entirely because that is not effective. Banning abortion will not stop people from having sex, all it will do is increase our taxes as more money goes to supporting welfare.
Great idea though.
I take exception to much of what you claim.
I successfully practiced vigilance (for 16 years!) to prevent unwanted pregnancy, and when financially stable and married, we chose a day of ovulation to have unprotected sex, and within 10 days, I had clear indication of impregnation both times, even before my next period was due.
~ The female body makes very clear changes that are completely obvious. Any woman who is paying attention can tell something has happened. Those who say they didn't know are in willful denial or sadly ignorant of their own body.
~ You say, "These aren't teenage whores running around getting knocked up". Some are. Some are not. And you say, "...there is a very very small minority of women who use abortion as a form of B.C. or have more than 1 in their entire life."
Let's look at the statistics:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/ss/ss7009a1.htm
"Among the 44 areas that reported the number of previous induced abortions for 2019, the majority of women (58.2%) had previously had no abortions, 23.8% had previously had one abortion, 10.5% had previously had two abortions, and 7.5% had previously had three or more abortions."
And this:
https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/unintended-pregnancy-and-abortion-northern-america
In 2015–2019, there were a total of 5,660,000 pregnancies annually.
Of these, 2,590,000 pregnancies were unintended.
And this:
https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/induced-abortion-united-states
Eighteen percent of pregnancies (excluding miscarriages) in 2017 were reported to have ended in abortion.
Approximately 862,320 abortions were reported to be performed in 2017, vs. 926,190 abortions that were reported in 2014.
Note: Abortion reporting is voluntary. Many facilities and states do not report their abortion demographics; thus this number is lower than the actual total and is only reflective of the reported abortions performed in the US.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/ss/ss7009a1.htm
Among the 42 areas that reported by marital status for 2019,
14.5% of women who obtained an abortion were married, and
85.5% were unmarried.
The abortion ratio was:
46 abortions per 1,000 live births for married women and;
394 abortions per 1,000 live births for unmarried women.
You waited 16 years because you wanted to, that was your choice. Amazing how you get a choice to do one thing but others shouldn’t get a choice to do the opposite.
It’s funny how we can claim we are fighting tyranny that is reducing bodily autonomy and limiting personal choice while in the same breath eliminating bodily autonomy and criticizing/limiting the choices of others. Freedom is a two way street.
If you can’t see the irony then you’re just as brainwashed as most leftists.
Really and truly - not popular with the majority of America?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/americans-support-abortion-restrictions-poll
Also - there are plenty of decaffienated products out there that taste just as good as the real thing. Worth looking into.
What exactly do you think that poll is telling you? It’s saying exactly what I said would be the eventual result: the Mississippi ban would be where end up. That aligns perfectly with the polling.
The argument made on this forum isn’t that abortion should be restricted, it’s that it should be banned and the doctors should be tried as murderers.
Thank you for proving my point though.
Following me - responding to everything I have to say...that's kind of obsessive psycho stuff. Seriously - you may want to take it down a peg. You certainly wouldn't want to come across like one of these people:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDYLZuR5NU0&ab_channel=JudeAugusta
Don’t flatter yourself, I don’t even look at usernames when I respond. If I’m responding to you more than others, odds are you are making some pretty asinine points that are easily refuted.
Voetordie must apparently work at an abortion clinic and is bummed he's going to lose his job.
FYI: Debate is a back and forth thing, right? You say something, I say something. If you don’t want debate, go talk to yourself in the mirror.
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You are seeing it for what it is.