I was debating a coworker today. Most of the people I work with are fully awake. Even the vaccinated it’s usually my story that turns the lightbulb on honestly. Someone who is disabled from vaccine side effects being told that I can’t get a medical waiver for it. Gets those wheels a turning in everyone around me me. Well those paying attention to my situation. Anyway, I have gone through complete hell being one of the few unvaccinated. This guy specifically gave me that “yeah right” look when I commented at the beginning of all this my disabilities are vaccine related so I have pretty much kept my distance on the subject with him.
Roe vs Wade came up today, luckily we had the same view on it that it should be kicked back to the states. He even said that the republicans want that and it seems to be happening his words “makes sense actually!” Coming from someone said the constitution was a breathing document and if we went back to 1776 he would still be a slave. 🙄 he has come along way. But I popped off it’s ironic that the same people pushing the mandatory vaccines are the same ones screaming about my “body my choice”. Well that just sent it into a spiral. In my head I can’t understand how someone is for one but Not the other. Anyway his rebuttals where the basic talking points. Well the vaccines pertain to public health, more people died from Covid who are unvaccinated then ones that where, red states have more deaths then blue states. I mean in my head I have all this info but putting it out in a descent thought is hard. I need help. He sent me these studies. They are hard to debate someone who only follows the narrative. Pre waking up I would read them and say yeah makes sense but I also know that everything has been financially and politically charged which makes all this data garbage. How do you successfully debate the narrative? How do you rebuttal against each states data. I don’t want to leave the debate open. But I’m not sure how to approach it. I copy pasted the text he sent me. I could really use some direction here! He is a descent person. Great coworker. Just overall good dude. But def asleep to the real world.
Unvax’d people have increased risk of death.
Texas https://www.dshs.texas.gov/immunize/covid19/data/vaccination-status/
South Dakota https://doh.sd.gov/documents/COVID19/COVID-Cases-Hospitalization-Deaths_Vax-vs-Unvax_YR2022.pdf
Washington https://doh.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-02/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf
CDC Nationwide Numbers https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7104e2.htm
Chart (BBC) https://www.bbc.com/news/59757395.amp
Correct. It is this skewing of the numbers where they do not count a person as vaccinated until after 14 days is the key to their figures!
I have a massive covid/vax file full of articles and screen captures, but quite honestly it's getting too big for me to manage any longer. I was actually looking for an article a few months back about how Alberta had confessed that the way they were getting unvaxxed-skewed statistics was how they classified unvaxxed vs. vaxxed. If you had received the vaxx, but were within a two-week window, you were categorized as unvaxxed. Similarly, if you had only received one jab, but not any follow-ups, you were also called "unvaxxed." This was an important article, because it outlined basically how all governments are fudging their numbers.
The rest of these articles may give you further information, but, quite honestly, I'd suggest you save your breath. It doesn't sound like this guy is worth your effort.
https://pandemic.news/2022-02-18-uk-covering-up-thousands-covid-vaccine-deaths.html
https://en-volve.com/2022/03/15/ceo-of-german-insurance-company-fired-after-leaking-data-showing-covid-vaccine-injuries-arent-being-reported/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/02/board-member-large-german-health-insurance-company-sounds-alarm-side-effects-covid-vaccines-much-higher-official-reports/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/03/additional-data-corroborates-excess-deaths-among-millennials-since-experimental-vaccines-mandated-confirms-covid-not-cause/
https://www.blacklistednews.com/article/82128/large-german-insurance-company-estimates-253-million-people-in-germany-under-treatment-for-side.html
If you're at work...on work time... You should be working on work.
Just sayin'
You just cant help some people. It will take Myocarditis for him to wake up.
Give him the NIH Yale study...proving all the stats and narrative are propaganda with tthe sole intent to get the highest "vaccine" compliance possile.
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04460703
These studies completely ignore the harmful side effects of the experimental medical products. Over 12,000 US deaths have been reported in VAERS. Over 1,000,000 injuries reported. Underreporting is a known problem with VAERS. Many doctors don't know about it. Filing a report takes half an hour, which many medical professionals are unwilling to do. Depending on who you ask, the deaths could be 40 times or more higher.
Tying into the point above, the data from the US is hot garbage. Other countries kept decent records. Data from Scotland and England were so damaging to the narrative that these countries quit reporting recently. Note that England is also preparing to compensate for injuries. Our government health agencies have yet to admit that any American has been injured by these experimental medical products.
The infection fatality rate of the unvaccinated is always going to contain the initial deaths of all the people who died before anyone really knew how to treat this disease. Patients were put on ventilators, not because it was the best treatment, but because it creates a closed respiratory system for the infected patient. The hospitals did this to try to contain the disease, not because it is the best treatment for the infected. Medical professionals were scared and they didn't always do what was best for the patient.
Another great point to make is, why did the government suppress effective early treatments such as ivermectin and hydroxychloroqine? There are tons of studies showing that these products, when used early, can reduce the infection fatality rate by 70 to 80 percent.
Share this video with him: https://rumble.com/vqx3kb-the-pfizer-inoculations-do-more-harm-than-good.html
If this video doesn't get him thinking, nothing will. Good luck.
I would simply say "Those numbers are rigged in favor of the pharmaceutical industry. You can clearly see the rigging for yourself when you stop and ask yourself why a 14 day exclusion is applied to people who die after a foreign chemical substance ("vaccine") has been put into their bodies. No excuses from the industry justify an exclusion of their chemical concoctions that have been put into people."
"If that isn't proof enough for you to see the number rigging game, then you should look into all the other ways those liars have been rigging the statistics." And I would leave the conversation at that.
Yeah I want to at least respond. I will talk to him tomorrow instead of doing it by text. I genuinely like the kid. And he is a kid still. But I would def like to softly rebuttal like yo your an idiot but I still like ya. We should def not talk about it. I caught myself getting real heated. I haven’t had to have this conversation for months. I was like whoa I’m a bit rusty on Covid. Hahaha I haven’t looked at the numbers shit in a year. I thought we were all on the same page even those following mostly along the narrative tell me the numbers are jacked. He must not look at any news
It's not true that the unvaxxed have a higher risk of death. Think of the thousands who actually died from the vax, and the millions who suffered various terrible effects, and the fact that more vaxxed than unvaxxed have died.
It’s garbage, I know why he thinks it. He literally follows along with the narrative. I don’t know the numbers that’s why I felt all spiny when we started debating. Because I haven’t looked at their numbers since literally the election when I woke up to everything. What I do know is the numbers aren’t correct no matter how you slice it. The left says it’s under reported and right says it’s over. What’s the consensus the numbers are fucking wrong and we know it. Lol