Admittedly, Patriots.win has way more users, there's a bit more energy over there, and they're more up-to-date with new habbenings as they come. It's also an amazing place to find memes.
But the ANXIETY there is off the chart. That's what I love about this place. Most of us here actually believe that nothing can stop what is coming, and that God wins in the end, so we're really pretty calm.
I'm a big sports fan. After many years I came to a realization that I never really enjoyed winning that much. I just hating losing so badly that winning was a relief. A win just meant I could relax a few more days until the next game, where we might lose again.
it wreaked havoc on my emotional state. The right loss could literally ruin a whole week for me. I'd be screaming out for joy one minute, then screaming at my sisters to get out of the living room cause they were bad luck the next minute. I was a monster watching games live.
So one day I decided I wasn't going to watch the games of my favorite teams live anymore. When the outcome is up in the air, everything that happens until the end of the game is just too stress-inducing. I decided just to wait and see who won. If we lost, I wouldn't bother watching. Without the details of the game burned into my brain the sting of the loss didn't hurt so bad or last so long.
I'd only watch if we won. At first I thought this would be boring, but on the contrary, it was awesome. Since I already knew we won I could truly relish every moment. When the other team scored I wouldn't get upset, cause I was basically just watching a movie. I could literally sit and eat popcorn and just enjoy it. It was like "Oh so THAT'S how we won this game..." for 90 minutes instead of chewing on my fingernails.
Over here, we believe that nothing can stop what is coming. We believe that at the end of this movie, God wins. We believe there's a plan, and that the drama that we see will have twists and turns, but that nothing is always what it seems, so we relax, keep an open mind, and explore different ways of looking at things rather than freaking out all the time.
I feel sorry for the guys over on the other site. I know what it's like to have an outcome, and one as critical as the fate of our country, and even the world, up in the air. Hell I can't hardly stand it when it's only sports. But here, we believe that we know how this movie ends. We walk by faith, not by sight. And that's just a better way to live your life if you ask me.
Yeah I'm not convinced of that yet. I'm open to it but I've been watching sports a long time. There are so many moving parts. You can nudge it one way or another but it would be super hard to rig it outright.
Both an art and a science. "Football move." All my evidence is circumstantial, but I'm convinced. It'll all come out.
Allen Iverson share the dirt on refs throwing games. Maybe 60 minutes even did a show on it back when they attempted investigative journalism.
I've seen enough sports to know refs have definitely used the whistle or not used the whistle to influence games. We all have. We've just never wanted to believe that refs would throw games because it takes the game out of our favorite team's hands.
I am not saying all games are rigged, and I am not saying all games can be decided strictly on refs decisions, but it can and does definitely happen.
After all we've been through the last two years with government lying, Healthcare lying, corrupt judges, woke companies, and all the rest, I am more convinced than ever that refs rig games.
If blackmailers can flip judges they sure as hell could flip refs.
There is ALOT of money in sports and sports betting. Way too much money for people not to try and influence refs, simply because games should be fair and only players should decide outcomes.
Tennis and golf seem hard for refs to screw up because the line is crystal clear and the ball either goes in or it doesn't. However, there could possibly be players that throw games for money and not just refs.
There's no question that refs can be influenced in a variety of ways that can impact games. I'm not questioning that. But I come from the days before instant replay and all I can say is that it happens WAY less now than it used to. Sunlight is a disinfectant. Instant replay has done wonders for the integrity of sports in my humble opinion. I very rarely feel like the refs were what blew it for my team anymore.
I agree with you on that.
The areas I see the most likely occurrences are when refs make judgment calls. Football and basketball are the usual suspects. For instance, offensive lineman hold on every play, they are trained to do so. The key is to stop holding before you are caught or the player is getting past you. But refs really can make a judgment call on almost any play. These are 10 yard penalties so they are a big deal. In basketball there are plenty of judgment calls. Charging and blocking is pretty easy to go either way. In the NBA, they pretty much mug each other constantly on every play, so the judgment call can go either way.
Again, not saying every game is rigged or that all refs rig. I think my main point is that given the widespread cheating, fraud, and lawlessness we see in the country right now all over the place, cheating in sports would be nothing at all compared to those things and it is more likely to occur because lying, cheating, and stealing is absolutely rampant all over the place now.
I love the idea of sports and have loved playing them.
Before BLM slapping equality stickers on jerseys, painted floors with BLM BS, and switched the national anthem for the black national anthem, sports was one of the few apolitical areas in our lives where we could "go to get away from it all."
Now, they've even stolen that from us.
Couldn't agree more on the woke bullshit. But I've noticed that they've softened on that recently somewhat, likely in response to the horrible ratings they started having. These companies for so long have been fed the lie that wokeism is the future. They think they have to be sensitive to liberal causes or face the consequences, but "go woke, go broke" has been proving the truth and many seem to be setting a new course lately. As the Elon/Twitter debacle is starting to show, conservatives are still the vast majority in this country. All these execs have been sold on the propaganda that most twitter users, the loud obnoxious ones who can hurt your bottom line, are liberals. Turns out there were mostly bots. That right there I believe is going to go a long way toward these companies changing their tactics. Will be interesting next month to see which companies are the first to gather the balls not to post their logo as a rainbow all month long. That might be a decent litmus test for where we're heading.
Just like how sports is rigged we are watching a movie right now as it plays out in real time.
I don't know what teams you root for but I root for Chicago teams. Every time the Bears plays the Packers, it always feel like the game is rigged from the start, like you start to see the refs favoring the Packers, giving them the right calls so they can turn the game around against the Bears. Time clock expires but the ball gets snapped and Rodgers throws the ball. No flag for delay of game or anything. Actually I don't even think he has ever gotten a delay of game penalty in his career, at least vs. the Bears.
The NBA is clearly rigged because it always feel like they're forever changing the rules to "improve" the game but it seems to make the game worse. Even LBJ was able to get away with an obvious traveling a few times.
LBJ Traveling compilation
One of the worst traveling to not be called for
This is why I hate the NBA now because of that stupid flopping faggot LeBron James. He clearly have the refs in his pockets all the time, but yeah you can say, if he's that good and all, then how come he's 3 for 7 or 8 (don't remember how many times he won but I don't care), when he should have a perfect record. That's because when he's in the Finals, he chokes. Even the refs can't help him that much in the Finals. He will never attain greatness. He's currently last on the list of NBA players of all times.
Also this is why I kept telling the "young'uns" that the game has gotten soft. If the bottom feeders of the 1980's/1990's played the top shelf teams of today, the bottom feeders will wipe the floor with the top shelf teams, easily and would even win the 'ship. Heck, even Ewing and the Knicks would have won the 'ship vs LBJ and the Cavs/Heat/Lakers. Even the Cavs with Ehlo would beat LBJ and the Cavs.
As for baseball, I've seen a lot of pitches that didn't get the right call, especially when it's really close to the ground and clearly a ball, but it got called a strike. Ben Zobrist and David Ortiz are the victims of these bad calls.
Ben Zobrist
David Ortiz
Another Ortiz one
For Hockey, I never really picked up on that even though I am a Blackhawks fan, but started watching them more often when they won in 2010, 2013 and 2015. Then they slowly went back to being a bad team so I stopped watching them. As far as rigging goes, Hockey is a bit hard to make the claim that they're rigging but then again, I didn't watch enough of hockey to tell whether the rigging is there or not.
There's many more to go on but yeah I'm like you, when I watch games live and I see my team getting bad calls, it pisses me off to the point that my blood pressure would rise up. Eventually I got to the point where I'd just stop watching games live and just watch the recap if they won the game, maybe watch the full game if the recap didn't do it justice.
Then they got into the stupid virtue signaling shit and I eventually stopped watching sports altogether. Last season for football, I watched like half of the games but half of these games, I stopped watching at half time cuz they weren't doing any good. Rather than getting pissed off and raising my B.P. like always, I felt really calm. It was probably due to the fact that they're a SJW organization that I cannot get behind with so if the Bears lost, good. If they won, OK. If the Cubs lost, good. If they won, OK. Same for White Sox, Hawks and Bulls.
I probably will be branded a "Bandwagon fan" (despite the fact that I've been a fan of all teams since I was a child) but no, it's because I'm jaded by everything that's going on in sportsball, to the point where I don't give a fuck anymore.
The fan in me died around the same time sportsball started doing the stupid virtue signaling and cannot realize how much of a hypocrite they were. "Covid" came around and honestly, if you asked me who won the World Series in 2020, I'd say no one did as there wasn't a season at all. I know they did play 60 games and had a W.S. at a different location (I think), but nah that's not what I call a season. They were pussies to begin with, with how they approached "covid".
So it was like one thing that led to another then to another and on that eventually pushed me over the edge and I got tired. Plus it was also time consuming and quite a hit on my health so after stopping watching sports when they are live, I felt so much better and relaxed than when I was watching them.
Also, if you got the time, watch Brian Tuohy's videos. He did "The Fix is In", showing all of the rigging that's going on in the games. I read a lengthy summary of what he talked about like magnets in the balls to control where it would go. When Parkey fucked up the field goal in the 2018 playoff game for the Bears v. Eagles, I immediately thought of the magnet in the football cuz it was a double doink after being tipped and then didn't go over the goalpost. I believe that game was what pushed me over the edge.
Deflategate comes to mind for Tom Brady and how he got penalized for that -- sitting out one game rather than a whole season, then reduced to half a season, then reduced to 4 games then finally reduced to one game. I probably got that wrong but I don't care cuz the point is, Tom Brady is considered an "elite" and it sent out a "bad image" when you punish the elite. I don't care if he's an elite, he deserves to be punished just the same as you would for a bottom feeder player if they did the same thing and then suspended for the whole season, just like how it is with celebrities and billionaires when they get caught doing something criminal but get off with a slap on their wrist.
Anyways, here's Tuohy's website:
https://www.thefixisin.net/
Oof. I tell ya man, you're clearly very young. I remember the days before instant replay and I can tell you straight up, it's so much better now. So many bad calls are overturned now and refs are held to a way higher standard than they used to be. When I was a kid, my dad and I literally did nothing but bitch about the refs screwing us week after week, because we had instant replay to prove they were wrong and they didn't. It was a nightmare. We almost never do it anymore. You can show me a thousand examples of ticky tack reffing and apparent blown calls and favoritism but you're going to need a lot more than that to prove the professional sports are actually RIGGED.
Maybe you should try watching your Chicago teams on replay like I have. You seem pretty emotional about this.
Well give Tuohy a try, he breaks a lot of stuff down to prove that the games are rigged. If you still don't think it's rigged then OK but I honestly think it has been rigged for a long time.
Let's not forget about Tim Donaghy and how he fixed a lot of NBA games.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25980368/how-former-ref-tim-donaghy-conspired-fix-nba-games
Well I did say I was back then but now that I've stopped watching sports for about 2 years and a half, I feel much better. Even my father, who is an avid sports fan, says there's a lot of rigging going on in sports, more than ever nowadays.
And yes I've watched a lot of Chicago Bears games on replay, especially vs the Packers and I've seen, on an average, 15 or more blown calls/favored calls, costing the Bears a lot of games. Why do you think the Packers are suddenly gaining ground against the Bears in the all time W-L stats? Bears were like 50 games ahead of the Packers 15 years ago and now the Packers have surpassed the Bears I believe. Rodgers may be responsible for that but we all know the refs helped Rodgers win a majority of the games vs the Bears.
Even for the 100th anniversary game, we all already knew the outcome of the game, that the Packers would win and they indeed did. Even in 2018, when the Bears were a playoff contender, their first game was with the Packers and that was after we drafted Roquan Smith, one of the best defensive players, and we traded for Khalil Mack from the Oakland Raiders, then Smith and Mack DOMINATED Rodgers to the point where it looked like we were going to win this game.
Then suddenly "bad" calls kept coming and the Packers won. Even after the Bears were ahead at half time, but then the refs kept giving out bad call after bad call and the Packers won by a single point.
But that's OK if you still think there's no evidence of rigging and I don't know if you have watched or read Tuohy's claims but he does make sense, a lot of sense, on the rigging in sports to help Las Vegas.
I may be young but I did watch games back when there were no replays, with only the score that would show up on the screen but no stats line or anything like that. The gold/yellow letters on CBS and such. But I guess that got pushed out when I started watching more games in the modern era with replays and all. I vaguely remember the days before replays.
I didn't say I don't think there's any evidence of rigging. I admitted (if not to you then someone else already) that it wouldn't be hard to buy off a ref or a player--that happens all the time. I'm just saying that with replay, it sure seems to me that it happens a lot less often than it used to, and even when it happens, it doesn't mean the ultimate outcome gets changed. There are very few games that come down to a last second bad call. It happens, I just think there's a difference between trying to influence a game, and actually "rigging" it.