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I think that is you who is reaching and actually do not understand.
You really want to be right be you are not. For some unknown reason you want to portray him as transitioning bad to good. You must simply understand and accept that Abraham was not a convert, nor was Noah, or Enoch, or Daniel, these men had faith that pales the rest. They were all men who had a special and unique relationship with God. The Joshua reference you rely on, is a reach which falls into misunderstanding, if you actually read it, and break it down:
**Jos 24:2 And Joshua said unto all the people, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Your fathers dwelt on the other side of the flood in old time, even Terah, the father of Abraham, and the father of Nachor: and they served other gods.
Nachor or Nahor, Father of Terah
Terah, father of Abraham.
Abraham is only mentioned as a reference marker as most people at that time wouldn't have known his father or grandfather, but they certainly did know who Abraham was and what he stood for. It simply does not say Abraham , the "they served other gods" part refers to his predecessors. Additionally, are you going to through ALL before the flood as pagans? Enoch who walked with God, and was translated that he might not see death, that takes a very special individual to have that recognition. Gen 5:24, Heb 11:5
The Heb 11:8 reference, Abraham was already faithful and he was righteous as is said in James 2:21, he didn't become faithful and then God picked him. There is literally no verse that says Abraham had a conversion of faith period. His faith and righteousness could have saved him on that merit alone. Abraham was a good man from the start, he wasn't in a bad way like Rahab. Israel taken as a whole was troubled, individually, there were outstanding individuals who were used and chosen to prophesy to correct the faltering nation.
Whomever put this idea in your head is who you should be speaking with, they were incorrect in the first place, whether it was your professor, pastor, or someone else, sorry but they are wrong.
So, we're at am impasse of sorts, I'm really sorry that you are stuck and I probably won't convince you which is sad. But I don't see any more reason to pursue this.
The Scripture distinguishes Noah from his generation in Genesis 6. It doesn't do that with Abram when he was called by God. It numbers his family among the idol worshippers. Unless you have a reference I haven't seen anywhere, there is nothing that says Abram was any different from anyone else in his family and city until God appeared to him. That is to put something in that isn't in Scripture, Yes, in James 2:21, by faith A. offered up Isaac, but that was many years after he was called and believed God. Heb. 11:8 shows that God came in and called, and then Abraham obeyed. Faith is the gift of God. I agree we're at an impasse. Bye.