It's good to question to consider for just about 'everything'. Sunlight doesn't necessarily mean direct sunlight. A modicum of everything is a good policy to have. Direct sunlight exposure changes with age. One should consider this. We are more resilient to over exposure when we are younger, not so much when older though.
Using any sunblock that's not organic is toxic. It's best to avoid over exposure by covering up or avoiding prolonged exposure. If you are fair skinned, it's a good idea to prepare for outings in sunlight. Think of it as a hiking trip in the desert. You wouldn't go there without water, would you? On a fishing trip, bring a long sleeved shirt and a large brimmed hat.
I’m a fair skinned mailman and I’ve been wearing sunscreen for ~20 years basically everyday and have no issues. I’ve also never seen a study that showed any issues with using sunscreen daily. I’m more of a fringe case so I get enough sun even win the sunscreen but calling it toxic isn’t necessarily accurate or fair. You do make other good points tho
Yes. Certainly couldn’t hurt to check it but I’m middle aged and am still able to put on some decent muscle mass through weightlifting, normal anger levels, no man boobs etc.
I had “normal” blood work done a few years ago and the dr actually chuckled when he looked it over and said it was one of the best results he’s seen in a while. Not sure if test would normally be on there
I mean, probably true. I try to limit sun exposure. If you really need to hide your head, a wide brimmed boonie hat and some UPF 50+ clothes to limit you further.
It'll probably be hot, but on some days the sun is a killer.
As for organic UV blockers, I am sorely lacking on that information front
I never said all sunscreens. The ones that aren't organic are suspect and toxic. If you have been wearing sunscreen for 20 years everyday, you're living in peril and a survivor,... so far. There's plenty of information on the internet about the dangers of sunscreen. This is because of the chemicals in the sunscreen. Here are a few of them.
Oxybenzone: This ingredient is one of the most commonly-used sunscreen chemicals. Oxybenzone is linked to endocrine disruption, organ system toxicity, contact allergies, and photo-allergies, meaning exposure to light is required to generate an allergic response. This ingredient, sometimes called benzophenone-3, is not to be confused with benzophenone, another common sunscreen ingredient.
Oxybenzone is also harmful to aquatic life. This chemical is so harmful that in 2018, Hawaii banned it to protect coral reefs.
Octinoxate: A commonly used UV filter that protects from UVB rays, but not UVA sun rays. On packaging, it may be listed as OMC, methoxy-cinnamate or ethylhexyl methoxy-cinnamate.
Octinoxate is linked to endocrine disruption by an abundance of data, as well as to reproductive toxicity. Researchers have detected this chemical in breast milk, urine, and blood. Like oxybenzone, this ingredient was targeted in Hawaii’s ban, as it harms coral reefs.
Homosalate: A common sunscreen ingredient that absorbs UVB rays to prevent direct skin exposure. Homosalate absorbs UVB rays only.
This ingredient is linked to hormone disruption and it may also enhance the absorption of pesticides, including bug sprays. It may also enhance the penetration of other harmful ingredients found within the formulation. This ingredient is persistent in the environment, meaning it doesn’t break down readily.
Nanoparticles: Nanoparticles can be 1000 times smaller than the width of a human hair. In sunscreen, they’re most commonly found as nanoparticle titanium dioxide of zinc oxide.
Nanoparticles have not been properly assessed for their potential effects on human or environmental health. Researchers don’t yet understand the impact they could have. But because of their infinitesimally small size, nanoparticles may be more chemically reactive and therefore more bioavailable, meaning the particles are fast-tracked into the body.
Researchers have suggested that nanoparticle titanium dioxide may be implicated in coral reef degradation.
I’ve never seen a study that shows that using sunscreen causes any endocrine system issues. I’m open to reading any info you have about it tho as I have a vested interest.
You’re just being silly saying that me and the other 100k mailmen (minimum, not to mention other outside workers) that wear sunscreen every day are “survivors” lol
Here’s hundreds of studies on the effects of using sunscreen so it should be pretty easy for you to find one that proves your point. I’ve never been able to find one
I did a internet search using "Sunscreen, toxicity" and found lots of information. You won't have any difficulty finding information on this. It's actually well known.
"You’re just being silly saying that me and the other 100k mailmen (minimum, not to mention other outside workers) that wear sunscreen every day are “survivors” lol"
Look, no one said that putting sunscreen on is going to suddenly make you drop dead. The absorption of these chemicals over time can cause health problems such as cancer though. Your skin is an organ that takes in light and other things from the environment and also is part of the excretory system. Your skin needs to breathe. Think of the girl in the movie Gold Finger. Just know that your skin absorbs far more than you may realize. Will it be able to process these toxins out of the body or is it stored in fat cells? Aging often brings these things to front and center healthwise.
According to my blood work I’m healthy as a horse. Middle aged but feel great and very fit, not overweight etc. not sure specifically about thyroid but I imagine it’s functioning normally
I am very fair skinned and have an autoimmune disease that makes me “allergic” to UV. It also makes me utilize vitD at a higher necessity than the average Joe. I also live on the Sun coast in FL. So what do?
Concentrate exposure outside of 12-3pm. I don’t wear sunscreen during that time frame.
Wear a rash guard at the beach. No sunscreen needed except face and tops of feet.
Wear hats. I wear a hat everywhere, daily.
Wear long sleeve shirts and/or NATURAL fabrics. This is key. Linen, cotton, and blends of natural fabrics allow airflow and cooling while still protecting from direct sun. The vast majority of fabrics nowadays are synthetic by products of petroleum/plastics, produced with chemical dyes and literally are poisonous and non breathable.
Natural fabrics allow the body to cool and self regulate temperature with sweat evaporating easily. I think the synthetic, plastic, dyed, garbage clothes we wear over our largest most porous organ (skin) every single day probably has a lot to do with why we are getting skin cancer as well.
I find it at thrift stores and Etsy. It can be expensive yes, but linen is extremely durable - think how the Egyptian mummies wrapped in it and it’s survived! It’s an investment in something that won’t fall apart in 10 washes
"I think the synthetic, plastic, dyed, garbage clothes we wear over our largest most porous organ (skin) every single day probably has a lot to do with why we are getting skin cancer as well."
It wouldn't surprise me. You make a very good point here. It seems like any petroleum derivative is toxic and cancerous. There's even petroleum derived additives added to food!
It's good to question to consider for just about 'everything'. Sunlight doesn't necessarily mean direct sunlight. A modicum of everything is a good policy to have. Direct sunlight exposure changes with age. One should consider this. We are more resilient to over exposure when we are younger, not so much when older though.
Using any sunblock that's not organic is toxic. It's best to avoid over exposure by covering up or avoiding prolonged exposure. If you are fair skinned, it's a good idea to prepare for outings in sunlight. Think of it as a hiking trip in the desert. You wouldn't go there without water, would you? On a fishing trip, bring a long sleeved shirt and a large brimmed hat.
I’m a fair skinned mailman and I’ve been wearing sunscreen for ~20 years basically everyday and have no issues. I’ve also never seen a study that showed any issues with using sunscreen daily. I’m more of a fringe case so I get enough sun even win the sunscreen but calling it toxic isn’t necessarily accurate or fair. You do make other good points tho
Are you using chemical sunscreens? Get your testosterone tested, Some chemical filters get into your system and act like estrogen. Xenoestrogens.
Yes. Certainly couldn’t hurt to check it but I’m middle aged and am still able to put on some decent muscle mass through weightlifting, normal anger levels, no man boobs etc.
I had “normal” blood work done a few years ago and the dr actually chuckled when he looked it over and said it was one of the best results he’s seen in a while. Not sure if test would normally be on there
Older sunscreens did have something in it that was carcinogenic IIRC
Current sunscreens still do. There's really bad stuff in there.
When the old carcinogens are identified, they just create new ones.
I mean, probably true. I try to limit sun exposure. If you really need to hide your head, a wide brimmed boonie hat and some UPF 50+ clothes to limit you further.
It'll probably be hot, but on some days the sun is a killer.
As for organic UV blockers, I am sorely lacking on that information front
"Isn't accurate or fair"?
I never said all sunscreens. The ones that aren't organic are suspect and toxic. If you have been wearing sunscreen for 20 years everyday, you're living in peril and a survivor,... so far. There's plenty of information on the internet about the dangers of sunscreen. This is because of the chemicals in the sunscreen. Here are a few of them.
Oxybenzone: This ingredient is one of the most commonly-used sunscreen chemicals. Oxybenzone is linked to endocrine disruption, organ system toxicity, contact allergies, and photo-allergies, meaning exposure to light is required to generate an allergic response. This ingredient, sometimes called benzophenone-3, is not to be confused with benzophenone, another common sunscreen ingredient.
Oxybenzone is also harmful to aquatic life. This chemical is so harmful that in 2018, Hawaii banned it to protect coral reefs.
Octinoxate: A commonly used UV filter that protects from UVB rays, but not UVA sun rays. On packaging, it may be listed as OMC, methoxy-cinnamate or ethylhexyl methoxy-cinnamate.
Octinoxate is linked to endocrine disruption by an abundance of data, as well as to reproductive toxicity. Researchers have detected this chemical in breast milk, urine, and blood. Like oxybenzone, this ingredient was targeted in Hawaii’s ban, as it harms coral reefs.
Homosalate: A common sunscreen ingredient that absorbs UVB rays to prevent direct skin exposure. Homosalate absorbs UVB rays only.
This ingredient is linked to hormone disruption and it may also enhance the absorption of pesticides, including bug sprays. It may also enhance the penetration of other harmful ingredients found within the formulation. This ingredient is persistent in the environment, meaning it doesn’t break down readily.
Nanoparticles: Nanoparticles can be 1000 times smaller than the width of a human hair. In sunscreen, they’re most commonly found as nanoparticle titanium dioxide of zinc oxide.
Nanoparticles have not been properly assessed for their potential effects on human or environmental health. Researchers don’t yet understand the impact they could have. But because of their infinitesimally small size, nanoparticles may be more chemically reactive and therefore more bioavailable, meaning the particles are fast-tracked into the body.
Researchers have suggested that nanoparticle titanium dioxide may be implicated in coral reef degradation.
I’ve never seen a study that shows that using sunscreen causes any endocrine system issues. I’m open to reading any info you have about it tho as I have a vested interest.
You’re just being silly saying that me and the other 100k mailmen (minimum, not to mention other outside workers) that wear sunscreen every day are “survivors” lol
Here’s hundreds of studies on the effects of using sunscreen so it should be pretty easy for you to find one that proves your point. I’ve never been able to find one
I did a internet search using "Sunscreen, toxicity" and found lots of information. You won't have any difficulty finding information on this. It's actually well known.
Look, no one said that putting sunscreen on is going to suddenly make you drop dead. The absorption of these chemicals over time can cause health problems such as cancer though. Your skin is an organ that takes in light and other things from the environment and also is part of the excretory system. Your skin needs to breathe. Think of the girl in the movie Gold Finger. Just know that your skin absorbs far more than you may realize. Will it be able to process these toxins out of the body or is it stored in fat cells? Aging often brings these things to front and center healthwise.
How s you thyroid?
Just wondering.
According to my blood work I’m healthy as a horse. Middle aged but feel great and very fit, not overweight etc. not sure specifically about thyroid but I imagine it’s functioning normally
I'm glad you're still healthy and happy. Just use caution. We need our pedes!
I am very fair skinned and have an autoimmune disease that makes me “allergic” to UV. It also makes me utilize vitD at a higher necessity than the average Joe. I also live on the Sun coast in FL. So what do?
Concentrate exposure outside of 12-3pm. I don’t wear sunscreen during that time frame.
Wear a rash guard at the beach. No sunscreen needed except face and tops of feet.
Wear hats. I wear a hat everywhere, daily.
Wear long sleeve shirts and/or NATURAL fabrics. This is key. Linen, cotton, and blends of natural fabrics allow airflow and cooling while still protecting from direct sun. The vast majority of fabrics nowadays are synthetic by products of petroleum/plastics, produced with chemical dyes and literally are poisonous and non breathable. Natural fabrics allow the body to cool and self regulate temperature with sweat evaporating easily. I think the synthetic, plastic, dyed, garbage clothes we wear over our largest most porous organ (skin) every single day probably has a lot to do with why we are getting skin cancer as well.
Linen just doesn't exist anymore. I tried looking and it's super expensive and pretty much only used for reenactment purposes.
I find it at thrift stores and Etsy. It can be expensive yes, but linen is extremely durable - think how the Egyptian mummies wrapped in it and it’s survived! It’s an investment in something that won’t fall apart in 10 washes
It wouldn't surprise me. You make a very good point here. It seems like any petroleum derivative is toxic and cancerous. There's even petroleum derived additives added to food!