So obvsly I don't know anything and just happened to visit a potato museum on a highschool field trip... but did you know, you can cut them into quarters, because they sprout from their skin, quadrupling the number of plants you yield with same number of starter potatoes laid out in pieces? CONGRATS, GOOD LUCK, WATCH OUT FOR GREEN BLIGHT!
We cut ours up, put them cut-side-up until they dried out (like a thin callus).... then we turned them eyes-up, and planted them. Works great, every year!
We wanted specific types, and TBH, the potatoes were kind of a late addition this year, so no home grown option this time. So we got starters. But yes, that is the way to go moving forward.
Fresh food lasts a lot longer than store bough. By then they've spent days or weeks traveling through supply chain.
So stuff that does perish, you can can it (jars) or freeze it. Each one is a process, but we have zucchini from a year ago froze that is almost like fresh when thawed
I'm certainly no nutritionist, but aren't potatoes mostly starch (carbohydrates) and maybe some iron? I remember so other post which suggested it's better to get energy from fats as opposed to carbs.
Honestly that is TBD per person. Some people do indeed run that way. As a whole it's better to balance the intake of both. The body needs carbs and fats regardless, so severely limiting one can cause more problems long term.
For potatoes, 2 options. 1. portion control! By itself, that makes potatoes a good option for active, semi-active people.
2. Get your carbs from rice instead. If food is fuel, rice burns cleaner than potatoes, and doesn't build up as much in your body. You do need to be moderate with potatoes, while rice can be most every day w/o much issue.
I've heard of essential fats and also heard you can't live without fat in your diet. I've never heard of essential carbs or that you can't live without carbs in your diet. Are you saying there are essential carbs?
I wouldn't call them that, but yes. Yes there are.
For your body to work right, you need protein, carbs and fats. There is a general balance of all three you should maintain, and each person is +-10% of each. Generally it hovers something like 30% protein, 35% carbs, and 35% fats... don't quote me on that.
Anyways, think of it like a car.
Carbs=fuel
Fats=oil
Protein=transmission fluid.
You need all three or you will wreck your car.
Not a perfect comparison by any means, but hopefully it gets the point across.
Any diet that eliminates one or more is dangerous, could be life threatening.
Any diet that severely restricts one or more is not healthy, and will never see long term gains.
FWIW, there are always exceptions, though not many. If you have a medical condition where this is the case, you know who you are and are probably working with docs or specialists to try to fix or help you live with it.
Thanks for the info. I was under the impression our bodies can either burn carbs or fat for energy. So in your explanation above, Fats would equal fuel. Though my guess is that the essential fatty acids, which I assume are fats, provide some benefit other than energy. But again, I'm no nutritionist so asking based on what I've heard.
Could quite well be a better comparative, so yes, that would work too. In reality I just picked 3 fluids you can't go without and used those. 😅
Also yes, you can swap and adjust the balance, just some work better than others, and each person has tolerances that can help with that. However, if you decide to eliminate one completely or mostly, like many fad diets do, it is most often trouble. At first it seems to go well, but what is happening is your body is being cannibalize for the missing nutrients. Like if you cut out carbs, you will have to make it up with protein, in that your muscles will be scavenged, turning the protein into the needed carbs. That is really hard on the body, not healthy st all.
IMO, best is to keep all three balanced, but reduce intake (portion sizes, avoid excessive sugar, soda, etc.)
Was interested enough to do a bit more research to see if in fact there are essential carbohydrates. It seems the answer is no, which doesn't mean that you don't need any specific carbohydrate in your diet, but maybe you just need some source of carbohydrates. I was wondering about the Inuit people as I believe their diet is pretty low in carbohydrates. I found this:
After hearing that some people think that no only did the people who proposed the food pyramid get it wrong, but totally opposite on what it should be. Whether that's true or not I don't know, but it certainly seems to be questioned. Wondering whether the same might be true for the suggestion of what the typical carbohydrate intake should be.
Actually, I grew up in Alaska. I knew lots of Inuit and Athabaskan. They love carbs.
Traditional villages can have high protein, high fat diets, depending on the season. It's not by choice. Most have a balanced supply of foodstuffs flown in to help balance their diets as it is proven to be more HEALTHY. Including fresh fruits, veggies, breads, pastas, alcoholic beverages, etc.
As I said, long term it is better to maintain a balance. Why do so many people believe Ketosis is a good thing?
We're having a tree cut down and will help us to get more sun and I am going to extend my garden up there next year, after I get the ground cleared out this summer.
We buy 1/4 beef a year, last year we bought a hog, and we get chicken where we can. Eggs are good protein, and good for you. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise. A very few people have allergies or screwed up systems, fine. Everyone else can get good protein from eggs.
Are you supposed to leave them above ground like that until they sprout? I followed a YT video planting them about halfway down in a 7 gallon container. Nearly 2 weeks, no sprouts poking thru the soil yet.
our potatoes didn't do well this year, we pulled them a few weeks ago when the plants were looking distressed. Only ended up with about 20 lbs, I canned some and freeze dried some. We planted sweet potatoes in the beds to replace them... but the deer got in the garden a couple days ago and ate all the tops :(
We just pulled all the green bean bushes, ended up with over 10 bushels that I canned and freeze dried. Squash, zucchini, peppers, and okra are doing awesome right now, I picked about 15-20 lbs of veggies yesterday, I have been canning and dehydrating the squash/zucchini (they don't freeze dry well because of the seeds in my experience). Planning on pickling okra and peppers this weekend. We are just starting to get tomatoes in. And the corn, eggplant, and melons still need time. It has been a full time job (in addition to my full time job) keeping up with all the food coming in the last few weeks - but it is great putting stuff away for an unstable future.
Found a local cattle rancher (like 2 miles from my house!) that I ordered some beef from. I will be picking it up tomorrow. Very expensive, but happy to have someone local.. hopefully I can form a relationship with to get meat in the future.
Good for you. Potatoes are what my husband and I lived on 40 years ago as Newlyweds. They are so versatile and cheap if you get them from the store. Even better if you can grow them yourself
My taters are coming up now, very strong. Won't be as many since containers but should be a great start if there are hiccups. I love them with this salt substitute called Benson's with Brewer's Yeast. Very buttery, like buttermilk a bit.
A little wild plant identification could fill in trace minerals and vitamins. Plantain, clover, wood sorrel, and dandelions are really easy to find in yards.
Companion crops are great too. Planting mustard or dandelions around the base of food crops can help with ca. Beans help with N etc etc. My spuds are almost flowering right now i cant wait
In fact, compared with other common food crops — such as wheat, rice, and corn — potatoes have the lowest amount of protein. However, the protein quality of potatoes is very high for a plant — higher than that of soybeans and other legumes
Kek! Not sure if we may have labeled them wrong? One plant had three tennis balls size ball (pretty sure those are right?) but we have two plants that grew like trees. Hoping you’re a kohlrabi expert! 🙏
So obvsly I don't know anything and just happened to visit a potato museum on a highschool field trip... but did you know, you can cut them into quarters, because they sprout from their skin, quadrupling the number of plants you yield with same number of starter potatoes laid out in pieces? CONGRATS, GOOD LUCK, WATCH OUT FOR GREEN BLIGHT!
That's what I did. Mine are taking off!
You can cut it up even more depending on how many eyes it had to sprout.
I cut up potatoes to start but they just got moldy and had to throw them out.
We cut ours up, put them cut-side-up until they dried out (like a thin callus).... then we turned them eyes-up, and planted them. Works great, every year!
Yes, wife and I talked about cutting them up to increase yield.
When you do that there is something that happens as a side effect, don't remember right now, but due to our situation we elected not to this time.
All True.
We wanted specific types, and TBH, the potatoes were kind of a late addition this year, so no home grown option this time. So we got starters. But yes, that is the way to go moving forward.
Avocados have tons of nutrients and fat.
Avocado trees don't like freezing.
San Diego = Avocados . Everybody should live in San Diego.
How do you keep them from rotting after harvest?
Fresh food lasts a lot longer than store bough. By then they've spent days or weeks traveling through supply chain.
So stuff that does perish, you can can it (jars) or freeze it. Each one is a process, but we have zucchini from a year ago froze that is almost like fresh when thawed
I started mine in containers, ready to be planted. Not letting a cold spring and early fall fuck my harvest this year.
Also not wasting garden bed space on low calorie lettuce, that's all going in the grow tent.
I'm certainly no nutritionist, but aren't potatoes mostly starch (carbohydrates) and maybe some iron? I remember so other post which suggested it's better to get energy from fats as opposed to carbs.
Honestly that is TBD per person. Some people do indeed run that way. As a whole it's better to balance the intake of both. The body needs carbs and fats regardless, so severely limiting one can cause more problems long term.
For potatoes, 2 options. 1. portion control! By itself, that makes potatoes a good option for active, semi-active people. 2. Get your carbs from rice instead. If food is fuel, rice burns cleaner than potatoes, and doesn't build up as much in your body. You do need to be moderate with potatoes, while rice can be most every day w/o much issue.
I've heard of essential fats and also heard you can't live without fat in your diet. I've never heard of essential carbs or that you can't live without carbs in your diet. Are you saying there are essential carbs?
I wouldn't call them that, but yes. Yes there are.
For your body to work right, you need protein, carbs and fats. There is a general balance of all three you should maintain, and each person is +-10% of each. Generally it hovers something like 30% protein, 35% carbs, and 35% fats... don't quote me on that.
Anyways, think of it like a car. Carbs=fuel Fats=oil Protein=transmission fluid.
You need all three or you will wreck your car. Not a perfect comparison by any means, but hopefully it gets the point across.
Any diet that eliminates one or more is dangerous, could be life threatening.
Any diet that severely restricts one or more is not healthy, and will never see long term gains.
FWIW, there are always exceptions, though not many. If you have a medical condition where this is the case, you know who you are and are probably working with docs or specialists to try to fix or help you live with it.
My $0.02.
Thanks for the info. I was under the impression our bodies can either burn carbs or fat for energy. So in your explanation above, Fats would equal fuel. Though my guess is that the essential fatty acids, which I assume are fats, provide some benefit other than energy. But again, I'm no nutritionist so asking based on what I've heard.
Could quite well be a better comparative, so yes, that would work too. In reality I just picked 3 fluids you can't go without and used those. 😅
Also yes, you can swap and adjust the balance, just some work better than others, and each person has tolerances that can help with that. However, if you decide to eliminate one completely or mostly, like many fad diets do, it is most often trouble. At first it seems to go well, but what is happening is your body is being cannibalize for the missing nutrients. Like if you cut out carbs, you will have to make it up with protein, in that your muscles will be scavenged, turning the protein into the needed carbs. That is really hard on the body, not healthy st all.
IMO, best is to keep all three balanced, but reduce intake (portion sizes, avoid excessive sugar, soda, etc.)
Eat to live, don't live to eat.
Was interested enough to do a bit more research to see if in fact there are essential carbohydrates. It seems the answer is no, which doesn't mean that you don't need any specific carbohydrate in your diet, but maybe you just need some source of carbohydrates. I was wondering about the Inuit people as I believe their diet is pretty low in carbohydrates. I found this:
https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/75/5/951/4689417
After hearing that some people think that no only did the people who proposed the food pyramid get it wrong, but totally opposite on what it should be. Whether that's true or not I don't know, but it certainly seems to be questioned. Wondering whether the same might be true for the suggestion of what the typical carbohydrate intake should be.
Actually, I grew up in Alaska. I knew lots of Inuit and Athabaskan. They love carbs.
Traditional villages can have high protein, high fat diets, depending on the season. It's not by choice. Most have a balanced supply of foodstuffs flown in to help balance their diets as it is proven to be more HEALTHY. Including fresh fruits, veggies, breads, pastas, alcoholic beverages, etc.
As I said, long term it is better to maintain a balance. Why do so many people believe Ketosis is a good thing?
https://globalnews.ca/news/6376259/keto-diet-dangerous/
Planted about 3 weeks ago, nice sprouts up already looking forward to eating a few spuds. Happy planting!
We're having a tree cut down and will help us to get more sun and I am going to extend my garden up there next year, after I get the ground cleared out this summer.
Yup, takes time but we'll worth it.
We buy 1/4 beef a year, last year we bought a hog, and we get chicken where we can. Eggs are good protein, and good for you. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise. A very few people have allergies or screwed up systems, fine. Everyone else can get good protein from eggs.
Are you supposed to leave them above ground like that until they sprout? I followed a YT video planting them about halfway down in a 7 gallon container. Nearly 2 weeks, no sprouts poking thru the soil yet.
They get buried. Put in 4-8 inch trough
Containers for me.
Works! My parents do that.
our potatoes didn't do well this year, we pulled them a few weeks ago when the plants were looking distressed. Only ended up with about 20 lbs, I canned some and freeze dried some. We planted sweet potatoes in the beds to replace them... but the deer got in the garden a couple days ago and ate all the tops :(
We just pulled all the green bean bushes, ended up with over 10 bushels that I canned and freeze dried. Squash, zucchini, peppers, and okra are doing awesome right now, I picked about 15-20 lbs of veggies yesterday, I have been canning and dehydrating the squash/zucchini (they don't freeze dry well because of the seeds in my experience). Planning on pickling okra and peppers this weekend. We are just starting to get tomatoes in. And the corn, eggplant, and melons still need time. It has been a full time job (in addition to my full time job) keeping up with all the food coming in the last few weeks - but it is great putting stuff away for an unstable future.
Found a local cattle rancher (like 2 miles from my house!) that I ordered some beef from. I will be picking it up tomorrow. Very expensive, but happy to have someone local.. hopefully I can form a relationship with to get meat in the future.
You have a freeze dryer? Those expensive! I use an excalibur with good success.
We planted some in containers, but still no sprouts yet
planting 40 lbs myself this week
Good for you. Potatoes are what my husband and I lived on 40 years ago as Newlyweds. They are so versatile and cheap if you get them from the store. Even better if you can grow them yourself
Nice dirt!
Thanks all farmer.
My taters are coming up now, very strong. Won't be as many since containers but should be a great start if there are hiccups. I love them with this salt substitute called Benson's with Brewer's Yeast. Very buttery, like buttermilk a bit.
Just be careful, there's a big difference between supplement and self sustaining
A little wild plant identification could fill in trace minerals and vitamins. Plantain, clover, wood sorrel, and dandelions are really easy to find in yards.
Burdock too. It's a food crop from colonial times that now grows as a weed all over.
Companion crops are great too. Planting mustard or dandelions around the base of food crops can help with ca. Beans help with N etc etc. My spuds are almost flowering right now i cant wait
You don't need protein?
As long as their is cow, I will eat beef!
Deer rabbit squirrel
sauce?
In fact, compared with other common food crops — such as wheat, rice, and corn — potatoes have the lowest amount of protein. However, the protein quality of potatoes is very high for a plant — higher than that of soybeans and other legumes
High quality, but not high content.
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/foods/potatoes#nutrition
I did… not sure what grew?
Kek! Not sure if we may have labeled them wrong? One plant had three tennis balls size ball (pretty sure those are right?) but we have two plants that grew like trees. Hoping you’re a kohlrabi expert! 🙏
It’s about time to harvest the ones that came up so I’ll let you know how it goes!