Those of you who have not heard of John Titor I'll give you a quick notes lesson.
Basically over 20 years ago, a man claiming to be a time traveler told us some unbelievable shit about the future and then after several months, he just disappeared. People have over the years claimed to debunk it, tried to claim responsibility for it, etc. But the mystery has only grown as time moves on because his unbelievable claims made pre-911 about how the world was about to change, have started to come true.
Most debunkers claim he's not worth looking into because the dates were wrong. Much like what we hear about Q debunkers. I would argue the dates he provided were meaningless. What matters was the events set to unfold and the order we would see them.
Since so much came from his time and there is a ton of info, I will only go into the most relevant predictions close to where we are right now.
Over two decades ago, before 911 (if you are old enough to remember, the world was a very different place back then), John Titor claimed the US would have a brief 2nd civil war, brief only because what ends it is WW3, the moment Russia hit the US with nukes and wiped out millions and millions of people. You would have to know how ridiculous that sounded back then because it sounded out of touch during the time period that he told us this. Although now days, you have people on mainstream news telling the world this may actually happen.
And lets talk about this second civil war, it was very interesting the way he described it, he said it would be the cities v/s the rural areas. And that the Fed Gov would be on the side of the cities, and that they would also be the enemies of Russia. When Russia launches nukes, they take out DC and a bunch of cities. The rural population automatically wins the civil war.
Something interesting in his predictions about our future, at the same time we would be facing our civil war, and ww3, there would also be a pandemic.
Now, keep in mind his story was that he was a time traveler, from the year 2036, and that there would be a 2% divergence between his timeline and ours, that some things may play out slightly different for us than they did for him, but that the big things would still happen. For example, his pandemic and ours were different "diseases" but we still both experienced a pandemic.
Whether or not you want to believe he was in fact a time traveler doesn't really matter. What if this was simply a form of intel? What if it was looking glass? Q also knew things about the future. Some people here believe it's from looking glass. Then there's the question of Trump, Tesla and time travel. There have been people who speculated Trump himself played "john", a name he's used in the past to disguise himself. And Titor seems short for time traveler. Either way, i think the john titor story is fascinating and now that some of his biggest predictions for us are starting to look like a raging possibility, I thought I would share in case anyone else would be interested in looking into it.
And of course, some of the most interesting stuff is the post American future he came from. How the US would break up and change politically after the devastation of WW3. How big ag would disappear and local farming would become the number 1 way we feed ourselves. How we would go back to living in small communities again. How people who don't want to pull their own weight wouldn't be welcome in these communities. He even talked about how no one watches TV ( like we did back in the 90's) and went on to describe a different form of entertainment where we watch user created content on the internet instead of big hollywood style movies and shows and cable tv. (He literally described youtube, and this was back in 1999/2000). He also said God would return to the culture in a big way. And that of course, the military would have time travel tech. Fascinating stuff.
One thing I've always remembered that he said is that about 1/3 of Americans died of Prion disease. In the past year the vaccines have been linked to prion disease, I think about that quite a bit these days.
He also said Russia nukes not only the major US cities, but also cities in China and Europe (destroying the EU).
A few more: phones are used but they are through the internet, power generation is localized, there is less (but more advanced) medical treatment.
He said the civil war was caused by faulty politics and desperate politicians.
He said biological and chemical weapons were used.
Plus, money is decentralized and there are no income taxes. A person can dream...
Interesting writeup. John Titor plays a fairly big role in the anime Steins;Gate (worth watching despite some of the usual cringey stuff you'd expect from a Japanese cartoon in a few of the earlier episodes) but I didn't realize it was based on a real Internet person.
Yes very real, and in my old age I remember being in the chat rooms back then not knowing what to make of this guy.
That's funny - the anime I mentioned showed images of such chatrooms with voiceovers like, "is this guy for real?" and so on. You actually lived it!
LOL Yes!!!
John Titor is first mentioned in this video about ~47mins in:
https://rumble.com/vqq15o-time-traveling-trumps.html
The rabbit hole is deep, did you know they made a TV show about Titor? It's called Steins Gate, worth a watch. In the show they send messages to the past, using something called D-mail. Cern hunts them down to steal this tech and create the first time machine. In real life, Cern now uses a Quantam computer, the D-wave Computer...
Seems similar in nature to the movie 12 Monkeys. Just watched it for the first time last night. Lots of unique things to ponder with that one.
wow, no never heard of it. don't watch tv. when did they make this?
Came out in 2011, it's a Japanese anime show that ran for one season. What's interesting is how it kind of predicted the whole Cern computer coming out. The idea of a quantam computer being used is similar to the project looking glass device.
Its Anime, about 10 years old.
https://steins-gate.fandom.com/wiki/Steins;Gate_Wiki
Coast to Coast AM may have some Titor things archived.
That's a provocative statement... did he happen to elaborate on that one?
Titor's references to madcow/prion diseases, another interesting thread to pull on... hint of things to come perhaps. original post- https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/rsbi1v/unpopular_view_time_to_revisit_john_titor_the_man/
I have everything archived somewhere on my computer, no idea how to share it though.
I found this but it looks to have been edited, proceed with caution. https://temporalrecon.wordpress.com/the-titor-posts/
I think he was posting on GLP, which is gone now.
I was there when JT first contacted Art Bell.
I 100% agree with OP's synopsis.
Spot . the . fuck . on!
I don’t know if Titor was real, or maybe inspired insane ramblings, or just really intriguing mindscaping sci fi, but the whole saga is fascinating and well worth an evening of reading and diving into. Even if just as a form of entertainment that flexes the brain muscles.
Yep, looking back it's even more interesting. I was a bit afraid back then, there was lots of fearmongering all over the young internet. The chat rooms where smaller and easier to really communicate. In fact, I improved my 10 finger typing skills and my English a lot in those days. As I first heard of Q, I immediately thought of Titor.
I mastered typing thanks to chat rooms in the early days of internet haha
You had to be quick back then s
Give it time, if we are comparing our world line to his, we still have a ways to go to catch up to him. After the vaccine campaign, the reports of periods going wonky since covid vaccines, there's already speculation that we may have sterilized a good bit of the young population.
It’s a fun theory that I always love to read about for fun.
But (sorry)…
There’s not enough detail in his predictions to give him any credibility beyond a consumer/fan/scholar of sci-fi and conspiracy culture. His influences are many, most notably Terminator and other stories that depict scenarios like deserted apocalyptic cities reclaimed by nature.
Let’s say more specifically, it’s not a stretch to predict Russia would fool around with nukes after years of the Cold War in the public psyche. The trend of UN globalists polarising America more and more is likewise a trend that logically leads to civil war or upheaval/unrest at best. Unrest always leads to humans going local again. Around that time, I remember Brad Pitt or Leo decap or someone similar pushing a documentary on benefits of local farming and community they narrated.
TLDR: My point is that Titor could be real or could have been a fan of sci-fi who drew inspiration from culture of the time and the famous conspiracy card deck, as well as studying available UN documents (agenda 21, 2030 etc)
Having said all this, I still enjoy the idea of trump as a time travelling Tesla secret knowledge save the world guy. Haha.
You can pick out single things and say it's a lucky guess but it's the specifics he mentioned, the timing and other things combined that make it so interesting. He literally predicted youtube before it was a twinkle in anyone eye, he predicted the nature of the second civil war and that we would enter it at the same time a ww3, that's a hell of a statement, and to claim a pandemic was happening while all this was going on is pretty spot on. And honestly during that time the idea that we would have issues with Russia was actually laughable, we were long out of the cold war and were more concerned with sadam Hussain instead. He also said the last Olympics would happen in china and then they ended due to the war. Well if ww3 breaks out soon, that may very well come true too. If he was some guy making guesses, he did a good job at predicting our present hell. I mean, I can't believe this is the world I live in now, and I took the slow way here.
I rememer being entertained by his stories years ago but naturally didnt believe.....
I do like the idea that it COULD have been looking glass intel but they didnt want to talk about that and instead used Time Travel as the hook.
The Back to the Future trilogy was from 85 to 90 and lots of other time travel stuff was popular so people would relate to it better than a "looking glass"
yep, gotta read through the lines with these things
Back to the Future and gray aliens: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_SZJ9vcfbc
Titor was send back to stop WW3
NO, and he even said he would never want to even if he could, which he could not.
Well I don’t like his predictions so I’m not gonna believe it lol
I hope John is wrong.
The prob with this Titor theory/speculation that, somehow, Americans rebuild soon after every major metropolis is wiped out by nukes is, well, bullocks.
Titor wouldn't bee around in 2036 to bounce back as there'd be nothing to bounce back to? Here's why...
It's speculated that it only takes three modern avg megaton nuclear warheada radiation (far more powerful than was dropped in Japan) fallout to ruin the world's freshwater supply. Nuclear winter, radiation rises, jet stream spreads it.... bye bye freshwater, so long green planet.
Three.
Besides, not only did Trump say words like "soon" and "you're gonna love how this ends" but we know they, the watchers/aliens would never allow a nuclear exchange. Right? ;)
America wasn't actually rebuilt soon after, it was still in ruins. What happened was people were basically stuck in their rural areas and had to build micro communities where traveling on horseback was more common that in a vehicle. People didn't travel far from home. Everyone had to go back to making everything themselves. The life we live today of convenience and extravagance went extinct. It sounded more like life in the old west, but with internet. They did reframe the government though. The country was split into multiple regions and there were multiple rotating presidents.
Titor was sent back to save John Connor.
At some point, when I was reading his story, he went by "John Q Titor". Not sure if this was the Mandela Effect or if those posts were buried/changed over time.
This is the good stuff that I enjoy coming here for. Great thought-piece!