If you follow Gregg on TS you will see that he mentioned that twitter’s collecting 3d geo data, aka your location and what floor you are approximately. Same for all the mules and bots. It’s a treasure trove of data.
I do follow him there and that has been my question. Couldn't we already do that? Maybe not to elevation level but we'd know where they were coming from.
Not really. A look up of my IP comes back as a neighboring state where my isp's hq is. With a subpoena, the isp might tell you that the IP belonged to me at that time, but the exact location is not that accessible.
Even on cellular data, the IP might narrow you down to a town, but probably not even down to a particular tower. Again the company might have more specific logs, but the public IP data just won't give you that - you'd have to ask the wireless carrier.
Websites and mobile apps can ask your permission to get location data, though, and that would be a function of your phone or computer sending geo data that may or may not include elevation, and might include info saying how specific it is. You can spoof that data if you want - people do this with Pokemon Go.
So Twitter very well could be collecting geo data on every tweet and storing with the tweet. Just depends if they decided to store it that way.
I'm a unix/network admin. It doesn't work like that. In the beginning(prior to mid 2k) IP addresses were maybe 90% accurate at telling you where a person was. In today's world people use VPNs a lot and more importantly network infrastructure is far more complicated in its setup. You might think a person is in Macon GA but that's because that ISP loaned out a set of its IPs to a small co-op in south GA 60 miles away. Sure you know they are in GA but sometimes that loan or temporary reroute of an IP set is 1000 miles away.
More importantly these types of changes happen FAR more often and are very dynamic. Router techs can reprogram where that traffic goes in a matter of hours. The end result is even if the change is a permanent move that database that tells you the location might not be updated for weeks or it might be the very next day. You might as well be telling me that you can track what section of a beach a grain of sand resides on. Then comes a kid with a bucket and shovel.
Now add in the fact that cell phones are mobile... then add in satellite phones and other tech like Musk's Starlink. Many of them rely on the GPS of the device. That can be spoofed or modified at the source to tell you its anywhere they like. Plus it might not have a signal. For example if I'm using WiFi inside a building I might have internet but the metal around me is blocking cell and GPS signals. IE the house on the family farm in south GA gets shit cell signal because of the metal roof but T-Mobile allows us to use WiFi calling.
At best you could get a close idea by knowing which cell tower or physical satellite its talking to but you need secure access to that type of data so its corporate and government only type stuff. An app wouldn't know it, and the IP would be assigned from a pool that includes people all over an entire region maybe even whole/multiple countries.
Even the data these apps collect isn't full-proof. Truth is its 99.998% accurate for only one reason. Your average citizen is either too stupid or too lazy to do anything about themselves being tracked 24/7. These vote fraudsters are just morons. Leave your phone in Faraday box/bag to prevent outside signals and use a cheap Polaroid camera(or a gopro) to take your proof pictures and you would be 100% immune to being tracked by 2000 mules crew.
Irony being that type of stuff (Faraday bags) isn't really that expensive. Used properly its quite effective at breaking your life pattern and totally screwing up their ability to properly track you.
Knowing what "they" know and how "they" know it allows you to do things to obfuscate your true pattern of life and create a false one (physically and online).
In the long run, if you are targeted, "they" will find a way, even if it means eyes on surveillance and old-school tracking https://youtu.be/CwdGYMM2bHM?t=89 .
You can make it difficult but not impossible.
You can also have a lot of fun in the meantime, ghosting the ghosts.
One thing missing from your explanation is Browser fingerprinting. Best way to avoid this is to use multiple virtual machines with different OS and browsers from behind a VPN, do not log into Google, Facebook or any other accounts, and don't install any extensions or custom fonts in your VMs.
Yeah, I sort of got off the point. Wasn't really meant as a tutorial on avoiding tracking. Just sort of came out that way. My real point was that what IP you come from used to have meaning. Now its fungible to an extreme that its almost useless information. A crap-ton of tech exists that allows you to forward traffic from anywhere to anywhere and bounce it around all over the world.
Wasn't it always possible to get geolocation from IP addresses?
If you follow Gregg on TS you will see that he mentioned that twitter’s collecting 3d geo data, aka your location and what floor you are approximately. Same for all the mules and bots. It’s a treasure trove of data.
, and time stamp of course.
I do follow him there and that has been my question. Couldn't we already do that? Maybe not to elevation level but we'd know where they were coming from.
Not really. A look up of my IP comes back as a neighboring state where my isp's hq is. With a subpoena, the isp might tell you that the IP belonged to me at that time, but the exact location is not that accessible.
Even on cellular data, the IP might narrow you down to a town, but probably not even down to a particular tower. Again the company might have more specific logs, but the public IP data just won't give you that - you'd have to ask the wireless carrier.
Websites and mobile apps can ask your permission to get location data, though, and that would be a function of your phone or computer sending geo data that may or may not include elevation, and might include info saying how specific it is. You can spoof that data if you want - people do this with Pokemon Go.
So Twitter very well could be collecting geo data on every tweet and storing with the tweet. Just depends if they decided to store it that way.
Metadata has been around awhile I think the issue resides in "legally obtained" data which it would be if it was a company purchase.
I'm a unix/network admin. It doesn't work like that. In the beginning(prior to mid 2k) IP addresses were maybe 90% accurate at telling you where a person was. In today's world people use VPNs a lot and more importantly network infrastructure is far more complicated in its setup. You might think a person is in Macon GA but that's because that ISP loaned out a set of its IPs to a small co-op in south GA 60 miles away. Sure you know they are in GA but sometimes that loan or temporary reroute of an IP set is 1000 miles away.
More importantly these types of changes happen FAR more often and are very dynamic. Router techs can reprogram where that traffic goes in a matter of hours. The end result is even if the change is a permanent move that database that tells you the location might not be updated for weeks or it might be the very next day. You might as well be telling me that you can track what section of a beach a grain of sand resides on. Then comes a kid with a bucket and shovel.
Now add in the fact that cell phones are mobile... then add in satellite phones and other tech like Musk's Starlink. Many of them rely on the GPS of the device. That can be spoofed or modified at the source to tell you its anywhere they like. Plus it might not have a signal. For example if I'm using WiFi inside a building I might have internet but the metal around me is blocking cell and GPS signals. IE the house on the family farm in south GA gets shit cell signal because of the metal roof but T-Mobile allows us to use WiFi calling.
At best you could get a close idea by knowing which cell tower or physical satellite its talking to but you need secure access to that type of data so its corporate and government only type stuff. An app wouldn't know it, and the IP would be assigned from a pool that includes people all over an entire region maybe even whole/multiple countries.
Even the data these apps collect isn't full-proof. Truth is its 99.998% accurate for only one reason. Your average citizen is either too stupid or too lazy to do anything about themselves being tracked 24/7. These vote fraudsters are just morons. Leave your phone in Faraday box/bag to prevent outside signals and use a cheap Polaroid camera(or a gopro) to take your proof pictures and you would be 100% immune to being tracked by 2000 mules crew.
Broke again until next payday...
https://mosequipment.com/
I use an old potato chip bag.
u/#berwick
Use to too, but when I took the phone out it smelled like potato chips and next thing I know I'm at the store buying potato chips...
https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-a-conditioned-stimulus-2794975
I tried putting a clothespin on my nose... but then I sounded like
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Q5UkmT-1r_Q
Irony being that type of stuff (Faraday bags) isn't really that expensive. Used properly its quite effective at breaking your life pattern and totally screwing up their ability to properly track you.
Knowing what "they" know and how "they" know it allows you to do things to obfuscate your true pattern of life and create a false one (physically and online).
In the long run, if you are targeted, "they" will find a way, even if it means eyes on surveillance and old-school tracking https://youtu.be/CwdGYMM2bHM?t=89 .
You can make it difficult but not impossible.
You can also have a lot of fun in the meantime, ghosting the ghosts.
A lot of stuff will fit in that dry bag.
One thing missing from your explanation is Browser fingerprinting. Best way to avoid this is to use multiple virtual machines with different OS and browsers from behind a VPN, do not log into Google, Facebook or any other accounts, and don't install any extensions or custom fonts in your VMs.
You can test your browser and/or learn more about browser fingerprinting here- https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/learn
Yeah, I sort of got off the point. Wasn't really meant as a tutorial on avoiding tracking. Just sort of came out that way. My real point was that what IP you come from used to have meaning. Now its fungible to an extreme that its almost useless information. A crap-ton of tech exists that allows you to forward traffic from anywhere to anywhere and bounce it around all over the world.
does it involve horses? gas is pretty expensive rn...
AOC has a future career in the transportation business.
She doubles as both horse and cow. Made for the milking machine.
I thought Abrams was the cow.
What kind of miles are we tracking?
Gimme those booms, Elon. I want to believe you aren’t a slimy transhumanist eco-nut globohomo!
Elon can't receive comms on TS if he isn't there in some form. Even if it's by proxy.
Musk is the"Q" on TS.
You might have missed the part in that screenshot where Gregg Phillips stated, "I'm pretty sure Elon's comms team is on TS."
I just cant get over the fact that his old girl aint house broke !