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posted 2 years ago by Zeitreise 2 years ago by Zeitreise +233 / -0
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– cryofreeze 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

If the past is any indication, then when the SHTF "hoarders" will be blamed for shortages.

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– Retaining_H2O 10 points 2 years ago +11 / -1

Who cares what the media "blames".

The prepared will have food. The unprepared will not have food. That's all that matters. Blame all you want, but it doesn't change the math.

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– cryofreeze 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

That blame becomes hatred when the hungry brainwashed normies believe the lies. They'll look for you and the corporate media will give them clues to find you. Another possibility is that government comes after the prepared and steals everything.

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– summerstormAK 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

That's what guns are for.

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– Roleplaypete 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

I am not worried I will make it through it. I have always found a way and will always find a way.

I worry my wife will not. She is disposed to giving up, she is not resilient, and is often modern day depressed when things are tough.

It is my job to see her through the storm, but I worry that she will take the exit on her own if my vigilance drops even for a second, or even with my vigilance, my eyes are turned elsewhere even briefly.

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– Austin1789 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I understand what you are saying as I'm in a similar boat. I pray she surprises you when the true reality sets in and becomes a pillar of strength for you and your family.

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– Survey_girl 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

that's rough, reminds me of the movie/book The Road. Wife couldn't handle the new reality. Our buddy that is bugging out to our house if stuff gets rough is in the same boat. His wife will not face reality and has already expressed that she doesn't want to survive in that world. She is also on anti-depressants and other medication. It is hard to think about a future like that when your spouse has already given up.

But maybe it is the clown world we are living in that has them depressed... maybe if there was no more social media and big pharma, when all of your time and energy is going to eating and surviving, maybe the natural human urge to survive will take over.

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– JizmJunky 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Cellar goals

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– ImaSueDeNym 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

I would also suggest that people learn what they can about medicinal use of herbs and other plants.

The majority of planning for SHTF scenarios seems to be for food and arms/ammo. Which isn't a bad thing. But much of the population is on medication that won't be available (or will be limited and insanely expensive) in SHTF scenarios. Insulin and high blood pressure or other heart meds are things almost half of the adult population depend on, daily.

Ironically, increasing activity and moving to a mainly plant based diet (as would happen with people getting the majority of their food source from their own gardens) are things we can all do to lessen the need for many prescription medications like insulin and high blood pressure meds.

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– MaidInAmerica 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Great post OP

I’d like to share my recent tips and trick sites:

https://www.motherearthnews.com/ Tons of data under the gray links

Definitely checkout https://thegrownetwork.com/i-can-grow-food-webinar/?oid=117&affid=128

I personally am a huge fan of composting with red wiggler worms to make fertilizer and great soil, as I post, wow the prices are up! https://unclejimswormfarm.com/order-stuff/composting-worms/

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– DemonDMT 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

easy to say when you live in a big city where all your backyard is paved with cement.

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– americanjerky 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Start canning, pickling, jams, get lots of rice and lentils in mylar bags. We can prep in cities too.

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– TSearch 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Beautiful!

Depending on where you live it’s possible to garden well into fall and winter. Some plants are very cold hardy and actually improve with the cold.

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– Yankee_doodle 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I live in north Texas - any suggestions for cold tolerant crops?

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– Retaining_H2O 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

In the late fall, you want to plant GREEN vegetables in North or East Texas. Think Green.

Cabbage does very well during the winter. So does Broccoli or any of the greens (spinach, kale, etc...). Root vegetables also do well over the winter here in Texas. Anything that doesn't flower and produce a "fruit" (like a melon, squash, tomato, cucumber, eggplant, etc...). I like to plant turnips and radishes, but I enjoy the greens as much as using the actual turnip or radish bulb. Green Onion also does well in the Texas winters, provided the winter isn't too harsh.

If you want to start a garden in early Fall and get a harvest in before the first freeze, you can start with planting quick growing vegetables in mid August. You can get in a good harvest of beans, peas, okra and other things as an early Fall planted crop, harvest in November while the weather is still warm.

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– Yankee_doodle 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Excellent info! When would be the suggested time to plant broccoli and kale?

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– Retaining_H2O 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Late September or October is good for planting broccoli and kale. Harvest in December and January.

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– Survey_girl 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

There are maps on line showing what "zone" you are in. Then you can look specifically for when to plant anything in your zone.

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– TSearch 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Turnips, there is also a turnip variety called Seven Top which you only harvest the greens, radishes, red beets, collard greens, Swiss chard, mustard greens, broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, peas, kale, spinach, carrots.

There are probably more. These are just the ones I know. I plan to build some cold frames to keep lettuce going too.

Edit: if you can get your hands on seed potatoes you can plant them 100 days before the typical first frost. I’m thinking in hotter climates the fall potatoes might actually be better. Getting seed potatoes past spring seems to be a challenge.

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– EliFarQuar 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

The only thing I don't have is a gun to defend against the ppl trying to steal our food.

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– summerstormAK 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Time to get one then...

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– KingMaynez 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

What are some key things to stock up on? I have roce and dry beans currently

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– Survey_girl 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

A way to get and purify water. The basic staples of flour, sugar, salt, yeast, some fats like oil. Also pasta, oats, canned meat/tuna, peanut butter. A way to cook - a propane burner & propane canisters. Sanitation supplies (where/how will you use the bathroom if there is no running water or sewer).

At lot depends on where you live. If you are in a city and depend on local utilities, what do you do when the water stops running?
If you are in the country with your own well and septic system, how will you keep your pump running with no electricity.

If you are up north, how will you stay warm... if down south, how will you stay cool.

It is probably a good idea to get some kind of battery & solar panel so you can charge phones (if they are still operational) or run small appliances.

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– KingMaynez 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Ty for this. You bring up areas that I def need to sure up. Ty

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– hope4gaia 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Thanks but you are making promises you can't keep.

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– Tooshort -3 points 2 years ago +1 / -4

I live in an apartment, everybody doesn’t live in big ass houses with the garden of Eden for a backyard, when SHTF I am completely FUCKED.

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– marvinthehaggler 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Nonsense. Stock up on carne seca/beef jerky/biltong, dried fruit, and grains. And you'll want a bunch of butane canisters for the burner you need to buy that will disinfect your water and cook your food.

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– ImaSueDeNym 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Have you looked into community gardens? That might help some. And some is better than none. 😀

Stocking up on canned goods has been suggested and is a smart move. Herbs can be grown inside. Perhaps look into rooftop gardening. Or put an ad out looking for people with yardspace who might let you plant and tend a small garden in exchange for part of the crops.

Living in the city does indeed present a lot of challenges, but there are things that can be done. Nothing is ever 100% hopeless.✌️

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– OldSchool2 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Do you have a balcony? You can grow potatoes in a buck, small garden in a bucket. Community gardens too.

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– Survey_girl 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Also, they sell trays to grow sprouts in. No special lights or dirt needed, will grow right on your counter top. Throw some seeds in some trays, rinse with a cup of water twice a day... and in 4 days or so you have nutritious sprouts. They sell many different types of seeds, try them and see what you like, then stock up on those. I personally like the clover and alfalfa but don't care for the radish or broccoli.

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– BigDaddy1reboot 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Somehow if the stock market crashes everyone everywhere just stops working. Farms shut down, farm animals all disappear, trucks stop delivering food to stores, nobody does anything except cry. In the great depression, there was high unemployment, 25%, but 75% of the people were still working doing their jobs. Food was still delivered. People still needed to earn a living.

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