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Dutch farmers very angry after politicians' decision to closes dozens of farms and cattle ranches to reduce nitrogen by 30%. I'm no farmer, but I thought plants need nitrogen & CO2.
posted 2 years ago by aslan_is_0n_the_m0ve 2 years ago by aslan_is_0n_the_m0ve +85 / -0
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– Lapstrake 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

The air we breathe is 78% nitrogen.

Some cattle in Norway can't possibly affect the nitrogen levels in the air enough to make even a bare imperceptible difference.

But if you want to read their ridiculous crap here it is:

https://theconversation.com/nitrogen-pollution-the-forgotten-element-of-climate-change-69348

IMHO they are barely even trying at this point. They just want to kill cows to drive food prices up. Hopefully most people have figured this out by now.

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– MAG768720 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

The reason for soil degredation is not the cattle. They help enrich the soil. Plants enrich the soil, too.

But when you get monocrops (i.e. acres of nothing but corn), then the lack of biodiversity destroys the soil. It is BigAg and the insistence of monocrops everywhere that has caused the soil degredation.

However, it can be reversed anywhere. All that is needed is a biodiverse ecosystem with multiple crops and animals, each working together.

Plants "breathe" CO2 by pulling it out of the air. It is then converted into liquid carbon, releasing the O2 back into the air for animals to breathe.

This process is called "carbon sequestration." The liquid carbon flows down through the plant and into the roots. From there, microorganisms in the soil feed on the liquid carbon, and they use it to dissolve the rock nearby, which releases minerals. The microorganisms then take those minerals back to the plants, where the plants uptake the minerals, since plants need the minerals as part of their nutrient cycle.

The minerals, along with water and sunshine, cause the plants to grow more plant matter, which provides food for the herbivores. The herbivores provide food for the carnivores. Both animals defecate and urinate, which adds nutrients to the soil, feeding the microorganisms. The plants and animals that die on the land decompose into the soil (with the help of bacteria), further enriching the soil.

It is the Cycle of Life.

Tyrant wannabes who interfere with this process are enemies of the People.

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– HoustonGal 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Yup, plants need CO2 for photosynthesis. Plants give off oxygen. Animals need oxygen to survive. Animals give off CO2. Quite the symbiotic relationship.

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– deleted 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0
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– GA_Logic 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Going back to old school farming where you rotate crops can keep nitrogen levels proper.

This is just being putting in place to throttle food supplies to create a food shortage on purpose.

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– KyleVsLebron 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Absolutely, my neighbors growing up grew corn and soybean in rotations even a year with nothing planted to refill on natural nutrients.

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– TSearch 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

The only possible danger of the nitrogen deposited by cattle is if it leeches into bodies of water. The nitrogen can create harmful algae blooms that kill other wildlife. But I haven’t read that as being the issue, it all seems connected to the global warming hoax.

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– yudsfpbc 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

The nitrogen that is deposited in manure, naturally, isn't excessive and is quickly absorbed by the soil and soil life. Runoff from this doesn't pollute.

Now, if you have too much manure (like dairy farms often do) or you use commercial fertilizer, the soil can't absorb it.

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– TSearch 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Thanks for explaining that better than I did. If cows were out grazing in a pasture their manure and urine is absorbed, as you say.

When they live primarily in confinement and their manure is collected and then sprayed in fields it can potentially cause issues. But the right answer is improved manure management, not less coeds

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– KyleVsLebron 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Redworms eat organic waste and poop out black gold (fertilizer) the best fertilizer known to man with 13x more nitrogen than average soil. I produced some and watched it absolutely restore a few dying plants. Nitrogen is absolutely a staple for growing food.

Also, redworms were $20 a lb like 6 years ago. Now they’re touching 50. They black gold fertilizer they produce sells for 2-5$ a lb. they eat trash and produce cash it’s truly incredible stuff. But $50 a lb makes it so hard to start your own fertilizer productions. However the worms do double in population every 3 months if in the proper environment.

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– Kilowatt2066 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Food shortage

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– yudsfpbc 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

The whole story about cows and nitrogen... things are getting spicy in agriculture.

See, there are TWO competing schools of thought when it comes to farming. Well, three, but the third isn't really relevant.

School #1: Buy commercial chemicals, use big machines, kill everything that isn't beneficial. This works, but it kills the soil. America's soils are dying, and right now most of what we produce is on life support. The fact that the rail company won't ship fertilizer means this style of farming is going to die. It relies on cheap inputs (which are never coming back for many reasons.)

School #2: ZERO inputs. You rotate your crops, you use cover crops, you bring in animals to trample the soil, etc... You can never produce as much as #1 but you can do it cheaply. Well, not exactly -- it takes a lot of labor and a lot of know-how. This style of farming is increasing in popularity, but only a small fraction of our food is produced this way. However, I believe this is the future of farming, because it actually makes sense, and it builds the soil up rather than destroying it. That said, expect higher food prices because you are buying labor where before you were buying machines and chemicals.

School #3: This is fairy-land cityfolk telling farmers how to do their job. It is based on the fake science of climate change (formerly global warming, formerly global cooling, etc...) and it is completely unsustainable and just not profitable. It also includes people trying to say you can't grow more than one thing on a plot of land, or you have to control the methane outputs of the animals and natural processes on the land, etc...

What seems to be happening in the Netherlands is you have government trying to force #3 on people who were doing #2. In other words, people who know nothing are trying to tell people who know almost everything what to do.

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– deleted 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0
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– QbekPatriot 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Neo-bolchevism under the cover of climate alarmism. Clearly that s what it is.

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– MathletesFoot 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Not to mentioned they want less explosive fertilizer in the hands of potentially angry people for when the shit hits the fan.

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– deleted 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0
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– Maroon 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

They wanna reduce nitrogen? The shit that's like 80% of the air? For real?

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