I’m willing to admit that for technical administrative reasons that one or both of the Watkins might have been asked to be an actual part of the Q team. They may have had access to some inside information but I don’t think they were the ones typing out the messages on the board.
Being part of that team, I don’t think the Watkins just now made an independent decision to go ahead and fraudulently post as Q.
The Watkins may be competent computer experts but they were never trained as elite operators for psychological operations. And even the best hackers could never gain access to all the inside information that they had.
And for those people who think the Watkins have been running Q team all by themselves independently since the beginning, that assumes that Trump is some type of dumbass who bought into a hacker run psy-op without ever using his executive powers to check it out.
So you’re either accusing the Watkins of being liars or too stupid to know who’s posting on their servers.
Who was the previous owner of 4chan? I think he's in a wheelchair or something. didnt he arrive home one day to find a lot of Q stuff in his house, completely unaware of what was going on?
this was before Q was on 4chan i think. might have been a hoax but it's a similar scenario kind of
Freddy Brennan, aka Hotwheels. It was 8chan he owned and accused Jim of stealing it from him. Jim's latest stream with his other 3 stooges discusses putting a hit on him or getting someone to kidnap him to get him back to the Phillipines where there is an arrest warrant out for him (Jim and Freddy have a lot of bad business between them)
With respect Zeitreise, while he isn't articulating very well, raver9876 has a valid point (as do you).
I believe this is a fairly silly argument. While yes, an emulated proof of concept is nice, Iit proves nothing. It isn't the exact same build with the same tweaks, plug-ins, feature sets, and code base as the actual site.
The Anon doesn't have the access.
All this post proves is ignorance.
Give me a copy of windows or Linux a web app sitting on a lamp stack, whatever, and I too can show you how easy it is to hack and duplicate lab results, compromising security in a controlled environment.
With respect to the anon trying to prove something, this really only proves the code can be duplicated. We knew that already, at least some of us did.
About all this does is devide us.
We should wait and look for more posts, but in the meantime continue to take action as we know must be done.
Some vague statements that sound kinda like Q doesn't matter and there was no critical evidence, direction, or instructions dropped yet, so the new posts don't matter.
If they do in the future we'll address them then, as you say.
For now, I agree. If this kind of thing were to be valuable, it would need to be on the live server. Until then, stop bickering and fall back into line!
Man those meme cannons you frogs! Seek local leadership and get involved! Nothing more to see here, get back to work!
"So you believe the 2 newest Q posts to be entirely legitimate? "
Not especially, but like you i have an open mind to the possibility. Also, at this point it doesn't matter. There was no new info dropped that could clue us into anything, so if they are comms, they weren't for us (IMO, of course).
My main point was these "drops" seem to have divided the site into three camps, when instead we should be pressing our advantages from the recent wins.
FYI camps (1.drops r fake, 2.drops r real, 3.possible either way, wait for confirmation).
Actually, I do understand that anyone with enough back door access can make it appear that anything is happening on a server.
I’m pissed because people are accusing the Watkins of fucking around with the Q operation. I’m pretty sure that the Watkins are just doing what they’re told to do. I’m pretty sure Ron is not ninja enough to fight off an NSA assassination squad.
So you didn't see the livestream with Jim and 'babyfist', sgt B, and some other fella (the one where Watkins was discussing putting a hit on Fredrick Brennan, hey it "only costs $15,000" which Brennan is worried about enough to get the FBI involved) and the 3 stooges with him were boasting of being No Such Agency (but not the NSA) and running a 'white hat op' and laughing about it. One of them made the B post on Qs board a while ago, almost certainly the same person who made the 'latest' Q posts; consensus seems to be it was 'babyfist'.
When Q moved to 8chan he demanded his own board that nobody else could access and that it wouldn't be 'adminized'. Ron agreed to this but he is no longer part of 8kun and is running for Congress. While all this shit has been going on with the fake new Q posts, someone was banned from Qs board. Q cannot ban the admin, but an admin could ban Q.
Meanwhile a second Q pops up posting on /hivemind (where the old Anons went after they complained /qresearch was becoming comped and full of bots, and various drama with Jim and his cronies - you know the Anons who actually provided the research digs from the clues Q left because Q never actually gave any info, he can't, he asked questions and dropped clues, it was the Anons who provided the info and many of them are on /hivemind or pissed off elsewhere especially after Jan 21.
Those Anons proved that the Q posts were not Q on their threads, the 2nd Q without the tripcode who complained he was locked out, MAY have been legit but that isn't proven yet. The deltas and proofs are what 'proves' Q not posting with an unsecure tripcode, which merely identifies and he frequently changes it (as has been shown you can post with many of Qs tripcodes even on 4chan, they work on both sites). Ron doesn't appear to be involved in the shenanigans, but Jim most definitely does.
The Anons aren't attacking Q, they are Q researchers, they are making sure bad actors are not passing themselves off as Q and muddying the water. Jim owns the whole of 8kun so he may very well close that board to silence his critics.
Oh so now we’re back to accusing Jim Watkins or Ron Watkins of being Q?
No, they're being accused of faking being Q.
And the real Q team is just gonna put up with that?
I’m willing to admit that for technical administrative reasons that one or both of the Watkins might have been asked to be an actual part of the Q team. They may have had access to some inside information but I don’t think they were the ones typing out the messages on the board.
Being part of that team, I don’t think the Watkins just now made an independent decision to go ahead and fraudulently post as Q.
The Watkins may be competent computer experts but they were never trained as elite operators for psychological operations. And even the best hackers could never gain access to all the inside information that they had.
And for those people who think the Watkins have been running Q team all by themselves independently since the beginning, that assumes that Trump is some type of dumbass who bought into a hacker run psy-op without ever using his executive powers to check it out.
So you’re either accusing the Watkins of being liars or too stupid to know who’s posting on their servers.
Who was the previous owner of 4chan? I think he's in a wheelchair or something. didnt he arrive home one day to find a lot of Q stuff in his house, completely unaware of what was going on? this was before Q was on 4chan i think. might have been a hoax but it's a similar scenario kind of
Freddy Brennan, aka Hotwheels. It was 8chan he owned and accused Jim of stealing it from him. Jim's latest stream with his other 3 stooges discusses putting a hit on him or getting someone to kidnap him to get him back to the Phillipines where there is an arrest warrant out for him (Jim and Freddy have a lot of bad business between them)
So which is it?
Have the Watkins been running the entire Q operation the entire time and Trump is a retard for following it?
Or are the Watkins stabbing the Q-team in the back and the Q-team can do nothing about it?
Am I missing some other possibility?
With respect Zeitreise, while he isn't articulating very well, raver9876 has a valid point (as do you).
I believe this is a fairly silly argument. While yes, an emulated proof of concept is nice, Iit proves nothing. It isn't the exact same build with the same tweaks, plug-ins, feature sets, and code base as the actual site.
The Anon doesn't have the access. All this post proves is ignorance.
Give me a copy of windows or Linux a web app sitting on a lamp stack, whatever, and I too can show you how easy it is to hack and duplicate lab results, compromising security in a controlled environment.
With respect to the anon trying to prove something, this really only proves the code can be duplicated. We knew that already, at least some of us did.
About all this does is devide us.
We should wait and look for more posts, but in the meantime continue to take action as we know must be done.
Some vague statements that sound kinda like Q doesn't matter and there was no critical evidence, direction, or instructions dropped yet, so the new posts don't matter. If they do in the future we'll address them then, as you say.
For now, I agree. If this kind of thing were to be valuable, it would need to be on the live server. Until then, stop bickering and fall back into line!
Man those meme cannons you frogs! Seek local leadership and get involved! Nothing more to see here, get back to work!
"So you believe the 2 newest Q posts to be entirely legitimate? "
Not especially, but like you i have an open mind to the possibility. Also, at this point it doesn't matter. There was no new info dropped that could clue us into anything, so if they are comms, they weren't for us (IMO, of course).
My main point was these "drops" seem to have divided the site into three camps, when instead we should be pressing our advantages from the recent wins.
FYI camps (1.drops r fake, 2.drops r real, 3.possible either way, wait for confirmation).
IMO 3 is best option.
He doesn't understand software development. He has decided to be aggressive with you rather than admit that.
Actually, I do understand that anyone with enough back door access can make it appear that anything is happening on a server.
I’m pissed because people are accusing the Watkins of fucking around with the Q operation. I’m pretty sure that the Watkins are just doing what they’re told to do. I’m pretty sure Ron is not ninja enough to fight off an NSA assassination squad.
So you didn't see the livestream with Jim and 'babyfist', sgt B, and some other fella (the one where Watkins was discussing putting a hit on Fredrick Brennan, hey it "only costs $15,000" which Brennan is worried about enough to get the FBI involved) and the 3 stooges with him were boasting of being No Such Agency (but not the NSA) and running a 'white hat op' and laughing about it. One of them made the B post on Qs board a while ago, almost certainly the same person who made the 'latest' Q posts; consensus seems to be it was 'babyfist'.
When Q moved to 8chan he demanded his own board that nobody else could access and that it wouldn't be 'adminized'. Ron agreed to this but he is no longer part of 8kun and is running for Congress. While all this shit has been going on with the fake new Q posts, someone was banned from Qs board. Q cannot ban the admin, but an admin could ban Q.
Meanwhile a second Q pops up posting on /hivemind (where the old Anons went after they complained /qresearch was becoming comped and full of bots, and various drama with Jim and his cronies - you know the Anons who actually provided the research digs from the clues Q left because Q never actually gave any info, he can't, he asked questions and dropped clues, it was the Anons who provided the info and many of them are on /hivemind or pissed off elsewhere especially after Jan 21.
Those Anons proved that the Q posts were not Q on their threads, the 2nd Q without the tripcode who complained he was locked out, MAY have been legit but that isn't proven yet. The deltas and proofs are what 'proves' Q not posting with an unsecure tripcode, which merely identifies and he frequently changes it (as has been shown you can post with many of Qs tripcodes even on 4chan, they work on both sites). Ron doesn't appear to be involved in the shenanigans, but Jim most definitely does.
The Anons aren't attacking Q, they are Q researchers, they are making sure bad actors are not passing themselves off as Q and muddying the water. Jim owns the whole of 8kun so he may very well close that board to silence his critics.